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Ker kerrys speech. In a speech extensively between peace between palestinians and israelis. By passionately condemning a policy that enabling jews to live in their historic homeland and in their internal capitol. Jewsi jerusalem. Theyre the reality that the people of is real hrael had to. Poll sil policies of the time of i dont seek applause, i seek the security and peace and prosperity and the future of the jewish state. The jewish people have had their place under the sun for 3,000 years and we are not about to dissuade by mistaken policies that have caused great damage. Israelis do not need to be lectured of the important of peace by foreign leaders. We pray. We worked for it everyday since then. Thousands of israel families ma made the ultimate sacrifice. My family has been one of them. There are many, many others. No one wants peace more than the people of israel. Israel remains committed to resolving the outstanding differences between us and the palestinians through die recollect negotiations. This is how we made peace with egypt and jordan. It is the only way well make peace with the palestinians. Thats always been israels policy. Thats always been americas policy. Here is what president obama have said at the u. N. In 2011. He said, peace is hard work. Peace will not come from statements or resolutions of the United Nation. If it was that easy, it would have been accomplished by now. Thats what president obama said. He was right. And until last week, this was repeated over and over again as american policy. Secreta secretary kerry says the United States cannot vote against its policy. Thats exactly what it did at the u. N. Thats what israel opposed last weeks security solution. It calls for the western wall occupying palestinians territory. Thats what it does. Because it reflects a radical shift in u. S. Policy towards palestinians, on the final status issues, of those issues that we always agree, the u. S. Have to be negotiatedd die recolle directly face to face. Despite the refuse to negotiate peace for the past eight years. Despite the Palestinian Authority the entire generation of young palestinians. Israel looks forward to working with president elect trump and with the american congress, democrats and republicans to mitigate the damage that this resolution is done and ultimately to repeal it. Israel hopes that the out Going Obama Administration will prevent any damage being done to israel at the u. N. In its waiting day is. I wish i could be comforted by the promise that tuu. S. Says wel not bring anymore resolutions to the u. N. Thats what they acid previously. We have in contestable evidence with the United States, organized and advance and brought this resolution to the United Nation Security Council. Well share that information with the in coming administration, it is all true. You saw some of it in the protocol released and egyptian paper. There is plenty more at the tips of the iceberg. So they say but we did not bring it and john kerrys speech at this point, it could be raised in the French International conference a few days from now. So perhaps, well bring it or sweden and not a friend of israel. The United States well, we cannot vote against our own policy. We just annuniciated. The United States should not come out and say well not allow any more resolutions. Not well bring or will bring, well not allow any and stop this game of charades. The decisions are vital to israels interest and the future of its children. That wont be made through speeches in washington or folks in the United Nations or conferences in paris. It will be made by the government of israel around the negotiating table, making them behalf of the one and only jewish state a sovereign nation thats a master of its own faith. One final thought, i personally know the pain and the loss and the suffering of war thats why i am so committed to peace. For anyone who have experienced it as i have, war and terror are horrible. I want young palestinians to be educated like our children for peace. But, theyre not educated for peace. The palestinian authorities educated them to murderous israelis. Both have a future of mutual recognition of respect a. The Palestinian Authority tells them they should never accept the assistance of the jewish state. How could you make peace with someone who rejects your very assistance. You see this conflict is not about houses or communities in the west bank or anywhere else. This conflict is and always been about israels right to exist. Thats why my hundreds of calls to sit with president obama for peace thought have gone unanswered. Thats why my invitation was never answered and thats why the Palestinian Government continues to plague anyone who murder israelis a monthly salary. Recognizing a jewish state remaining the core of conflict. Palestinians rejection of israel and support for terrorists are what the nation of the world should focus on if they truly want to advance peace. I can say it is a shame that secreta secretary kerry see this simple truth. Thank you. I am jacob soboroff, live in headquarters in new york in jerusalem, Benjamin Netanyahu, responding on john kerrys comment of what he called a d disappointme disappointment and criticizing current israelis policies as the ultimate threat to a twostate resolution. Those countries who are ultimately brought it to florida. If you have more and more settlements being filled in the area thats supposed to be the future of palestine, it makes it harder and harder to have that future palestine. We are monitoring a state department, theyll bring to you immediately. Lets go to our reporter, joining me now from our london newsroom our chief local correspondence, bill neely, i want to start with you of the Benjamin Netanyahus response and some of what we have seen today so far. Well, john kerry says his speech was going to be candid and i think you heard a candid reply from Benjamin Netanyahu. He said john kerrys speech was disappointing and regrettable and he used the word shame. He says john kerrys speech was unbalanced and biassed against israel and it was all about blaming israel. It was interesting that both a statements he released beforehand and both of that speech was not in hebrew, he was addressing as an american on a global audience. Benjamin netanyahu says like the Security Council resolution that kerri advance inside the u. N. , his speech tonight was skewed ger against israel. That just failed to veto. But, you heard again from Benjamin Netanyahu, a real bitterness and he said israel had proof that it would show the world that in fact at the United States was behind the drafting of that resolution. Benjamin netanyahu says that kerrys speech dealt with settlement to a jewish state. John kerry was in fact, rather even handed in condemning palestinians palestinians. This was the strongest sustained condo nation of jewish settlements in decades like any u. S. Secretary of state. I think from Benjamin Netanyahu, a hint of bitterness there and he was certainly looking forward to working with president elect trump. Uncontestable evidence, the language that we heard there from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu about the United States and being behind this resolution, we have not seen that proof yet. What did the secretary trying to accu well, this was as speech that john kerry has wanted to give for a long time. He was blocked by the white house which believed that Hillary Clinton was going to become theresidentnd advised john kerry this was not a speech that was good to get. This was a legacy speech for john kerry, he believed the two States Solutions for four decades. It was in real. Israel Foreign Policy dep d depends on the support of the republican and the democrat parties. I think thats bad for is real and it is bad for americans. Again, something thats not unprecedented as you say. Secretary kerry spending much of his speech today condemning on the israelis settlement. Policies are committed to settlements than any israel in the country. Theyre leading towards one state. If the choice is one state, israel can either be jewish or democratic, it cannot be both. So he does not come out and say it quite directly there. He lets anybody just about anyone in further line between israel prosettlement policies of what he can arise to an undemocratic state. Whats your response to that . There is talk about how many jewish settlers there are and most of them are in area that is you would expect to be part of israel in a twostate solution. Also, israel has demonstrated both in the settlement and of a capacity to remove those settlements that are harmful to a Peace Process and Benjamin Netanya netanyahus party has been at the forefront of removing any settlements thats called for removal for the Peace Process. There was a tenmonth settlement freeze that was not used for the palestinia palestinians. Whats most missing is how whats most missing is how outrageous the palestinian with 100 nutrition, 0 fillers, always real meat 1. Lifelong smart nutrition. Its all in one. Purina one. At msnbc World Headquarters in new york. Some breaking news this hour just in from associated press. Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas says hes ready to resume peace talks if israel freezes settlement. Benjamin netanyahu just spoke in jerusalem following secretary of state john kerrys remarks about middle east policy. Benjamin netanyahu flatly rejected from sustaining from u. N. Security vote and why the government is so steadfast in its position on peace talks. My position is that israelis and palestinians both have a future of mutual recognition, dignity, respect, coexistence. But the Palestinian Authority tells them they will never accept and should never accept the existence of a jewish state. So i ask how can you make peace with someone who rejects your very existence. Joining me by phone human rights attorney from George Washington university. I understand you were listening to congressman brad sherman just before the break. Do you care to respond to what congressman sherman had to say . Congressman sherman told viewers and unfortunately constituents end of Apartheid Regime that distinguishes between palestinians and jewish israelis and actually privileges jewish israelis as a matter of law, an Apartheid Regime is the same thing as removing jews from middle east. Thats disingenuous, dangerous, an outright lie, irresponsible for a member of congress to say. Jews are part and parcel, an intricate fabric of middle east, morocco, lebanon, tunisia, the rest of north africa. This is not the same thing. Even jews to stay in what is palestine and israel is absolutely fine. The request is to end an Apartheid Regime, not to remove jewish people. Those are two differ things. The conflation of those things is very dangerous and why its become detractable. I want to drill down. Obviously palestinian sees things differently than israeli Prime Minister. Why is the idea of recognizing israel as a jewish state being characterized as such a roadblock here . Israel demanded palestines recognize it as reality which they did al roker and formally in 1993. Israel has been recognized and has existed as a state since 1948 and entered United Nations as a member state in 1949. So this idea that now demanding, upping this demand, moving the needle so that palestinians are short yet again is basically like telling friends we want you to recognize french is french, u. S. Are americans but, hey, you have to recognize u. S. Is for white americans only or fran is for french americans only. Right now within israel, 20 of its population is not jewish. They are muslim and Christian Palestinian citizens of the state who are treated as a fifth column. What happened when the state is not recognized as a state for israelis but recognized as a state for jews only . What happens to those palestinians who are citizens of the state but are christian and muslim. Are we okay with that . As a country thats separated in the First Amendment separated church and state and believes in equality and believes in the treatment of people regardless of creed, color, religion, are we okay with them saying that israel is only for jewish citizens and not for all citizens of the state . I leave that up to your listeners and viewers. I certainly am not. I think when Palestinian Authority or palestine refuses to recognize israel, its for similar reasons. Its for the values that we uphold. Both Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and two republican senators today said that the real problem is palestinians. Im talking about lindsey graham, for instance, that said the palestinians are in complete disarray when it comes to acting like a state. Thats a direct quote. What do you say to senator graham . I say two things. The first thing is that they are not a state. They are a people under occupation. The only person that ever offered a nominal state hood to palestinians fell apart in the year 2000. Theres an expectation for people who are functioning under a military occupation and Apartheid Regime when the Prime Minister has to literally excuse me, the palestinian president has to literally get permission to travel out of palestine to israel and then to turn around and expect them to act the same as the state means we are not providing the needs of palestinians to be able to function. Sovereignty is met with responsibility. Palestinians have not had that sovereignty and yet have met nearly every demand israelis have imposed on them. The problem is not palestine. Kerry said it today in his speech. The settlements do not increase israeli security. The settlements compromise israelis even more by being built on palestinian lands, removal, concentration, their militarization just for existing and living there afterwards, how is israel making itself safer . How is it furthering its own cause. Obama and now kerry are trying to save israel from itself and unfortunately our members of congress, rather than aiding a democratic leadership and ushering a new era are simply protracting the conflict further and moving us faster into an apartheid reality. Unfortunately we have to leave it there. Thank you for your time today. Coming up next, indepth look at how todays developments at the state department and israel could play out for the president elect now just a few weeks away from taking that oath of office. All that and more ahead. I discovered a woman my family tree, named marianne gaspard. I became curious where in africa she was from. So i took the ancestry dna test to find out more about my african roots. Ancestry really helped me fill in a lot of details. Nosy neighbor with a glad bag, full of trash. What happens next . Nothing. Only glad has febreze to neutralize odors for 5 days. Guaranteed. Even the most perceptive noses wont notice the trash. Be happy. Its glad. Moving highstakes diplomatic maneuvering involving u. S. , israel and palestinians, moments ago ap reporting palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas is ready to resume peace talks if israel freezes settlement construction. This, of course, follows closely from speeches of Prime Minister netanyahu and secretary of state john kerry. Joining me now from seattle senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute and former fbi double agent and joining us from philadelphia gop strategist and former white house aide to george h. W. Bush reverend joe watkins. Thank you for joining me. Secretary kerry with Andrea Mitchell talking about the dangers of donald trump moving the embassy to jerusalem. The whole world knows that has profound, profound questions of sovereignty. It would have a huge impact on the arab worlds perception of jurisdiction and sovereignty over religious sites. Could there be violence. Again, im not going to get into predicting violence. You know, i think everybody it make their own judgments about what acts are in citement and what are not. Intelligence and secure is your background. Does moving the embassy to jerusalem make america any safer . I would say probably not. I mean, i think kerry is both right and wrong. I mean, the discussion when it comes to palestine and israelis, look, as he pointed out, its much more to do with israelis, continuation of ongoing war that truthfully in many ways habit closed. Looks i think jerusalem should be part of israel. To unilaterally move it in the midst of this brouhaha isnt a wise move. At the end of the day i think they are right to claim it as theirs. You know what, not a bad place to put an embassy if thats the case. Joe, let me get your take. You served bush 41, he like president obama did not support this. If obama was sticking to longstanding policy, why is this such a big deal right now . Its a big deal right now because the incoming president will not stick with the policy that president obama that put forth. Of course, you can tell by virtue of the ambassador to israel that hes chosen, david freedman, that he has a very different bent from president obama. Ambassador fr