Israeli consulate, was an 18yearold young woman who was here celebrating the new year with a couple of her friends. They survived but she did not. Dozens were injured as well. Were not yet sure whether or not americans are among the wounded. We cannot definitively rule that out as of yet. Many are still in the hospital, at least three people are in critical condition. So still trying to confirm whether or not any americans are among the wounded here. This is an awful start to the new year. Thank you. On the heels of the turkey terror, a new report on isis and its aspirations to launch mass casualty chemical attacks. It comes from the British Security minister in a Newspaper Interview published today. I want to bring in chris dicky and also an msnbc contributor. Thanks for being with me once again. While we have no claim of responsibility for the attack in turkey at this point, i want to
ask you about the new interview with the British Security minister on Chemical Weapons. Do we even know whether isis, on an operational scale, is capable of that kind of attack on a western target . Well, i think it certainly would like do Something Like that. Whether its able to use the kinds of weapons that we usually talk about when were talking about Chemical Weapons like nerve gas, i doubt that its going to have that capability. But if you are talking about, for instance, using chlorine, gas, readily available in a lot of environments, yeah, thats possible. If you use it in a closed environment, it could be deadly and create a lot of casualties. This is something that al qaeda talked about and tried to do for a very long time. Its not surprising that isis wants do it. But theres a scary precedent here which was the arrest of several people in morocco in the last few months who were, indeed, actively trying to create some kind of chemical
weapon for isis. You also have the Islamic State using mustard gas in an attack on a syrian town last year, august 2015, i should say. I want to ask you about the report that suggests the uk carried out exercises preparing for an attack like that. When you look at intelligence, is there any way to pick up or identify potential chemical attack . Are there any sensors that could be used here . Well, it depends on the chemical. I mean, one of the dangers of a weapon like nerve gas is that it is odorless and colorless. You dont know whats happening to you unless its happening to you. Its extremely dangerous. Something like chlorine gas often is colored. You smell it. It smells like swimming pools. To that extent, its easier to get away from. Its less dangerous. But all of these things are very dangerous. The mustard gas that isis is believed to use probably is some
it captured at some point from an old syrian arsenal. We believe if it had more effective Chemical Weapons, it would have used them by now. Another one of the concerns. Back to the nightclub attack, security was reportedly increased in recent days. American intelligence officials warning about an attack in turkey. Does this mean that even anybody out there, whether in turkey, in other western nations, in the United States, that you are alert, taking precautions, you are still hopeless if someone is committed to carrying out Something Like this . Well, its almost impossible to stop people who are willing to risk their own lives, to die themselves and who are going to hit very soft targets. I mean, this is one of the reasons we think this is an isis attack is because they are willing to slaughter civilians wherever they find them if large groups. We saw it again and again. We have seen it in a lot of different places. Whereas for instance, the kurdish groups that might have
been suspected, they have come out and said, its not us. We dont attack civilians in this fashion. They tend to try and target Government Officials and the military. Which is not to say they arent terrorists, but its a different m. O. This looks like an isis operation. Theres something also that needs to be understood about this particular fight, which is that turkey has been putting a lot of pressure on isis. It used to almost cooperate, in fact, some people said it did cooperate withisis. Now isis feels betrayed. Its going after the turks. Particularly in a gruesome incident just before christmas, it released a video of two turkish soldiers that had burned alive. Warned that turkey was now the land of jihad. So while we need to fear random violence, its also to some extent the case that isis telegraphs its blows. It has made it clear its going to do as much as it can to take
the fight into tury right w. Something they have seen in the past year withust the past month alone, i believe four attacks, 180 killed in attacks over the past year. In that sense, when we look at all of the past this rundown right now, this full screen of the attacks that they have endured in 2016, and we see this one here at a nightclub where there are a lot of foreign nationals. No confirmations of any americans. Is that what we expect to continue to see into the new year . They are going to try do it. The turks will try to stop them. The Turkish Intelligence Services are pretty good and ruthless. They will pull out a lot of stops in order to keep aid on this kind of terror. Clrly, they are concerned. One of the first things the turks do with these kinds of incidents is try and put a lid on the press so people dont know whats going on. Theres a Wall Street Journal reporter who was detained for tweeting out images of the soldiers being burned alive. There was an immediate clamp down on the media in the aftermath of the first few hours after the ghtclub attack you are going to have a situation where theres not only going to be an effort to control the terrorists and stop the terrorists, theres going to be an effort to control the reporting on it. As if that would help. Very quickly i think were in for a difficult time as civilians, as the press, as the military, as intelligence services. I think were looking at a Real Covert War thats going to go on for a long time. Talk about here at home. We saw Security Amped Up at times square, other areas in light of this. Whatan we expect as far as what can be learned from this that we can apply here at home . Well, you know, i wrote a book about the new York City Police departments Counterterrorism Operations there. They are incrediblebly good. Most of the American Cities have Adapted Practices that make americans a lot safer. U. S. And especially new york and
washington are always the number one targets of terrorists. If they could hit us, they would. And they would do it again and again. They havent been able to. Theyve been stopped again and again. Sometimes the police have gotten lucky. Sometimes they have been very effective. But its an ongoing game. The terrorists certainly have to get through once or twice to horrify the nation. Even an attack like the one in San Bernardino where you had people who went and shot up an office party in an organization they belonged to, all of a sudden that became an isis attack that terrified the nation. So you cant stop all of it. You can say you can, you can say you can try. But ultimately, you cannot. Americans are going to have to get hardened to the idea that these kinds of attacks will take place. It is a disturbing reality we have now. Thank you for being with us. To politics now. President elect trump rang in the new year at his estate
partying along stallone and fabio. Even at a party, he faced questions about Cyber Security and the russian hack. Kelly odonnell is in west palm beach, florida. Interesting to hear these commentso and even donald trump saying that he has information about this hack that he is going to withhold until next week. Reporter it was interesting because it was not expected that the President Elect would take questions from The Mall Group of reporters who were assigned to sort of witness the Holiday Party and get some pictures of
that. But he did take questions. The questions did go to some of the issues we have been covering in the National Conversation in recent days. You heard him advocate for the oldfashion courier aroach instead of the electronic age. He also talked about his sons skill at computers, that he knows how to do all kinds of things. The paint you made, he was asked about his confidence or lack thereof in the Intelligence Assessment that russia is behind the hacking that attempted to affect the election season. He wont go that far yet. We know he has reserved judgment saying that he has no reason to believe that russia was solely responsible and is concerned about the assessment. Talked about the fact that he knows some extra things and suggested when asked what are those things that he knows that others do not, he offered up this kind of future prediction that he would reveal it tuesday or wednesday. In the time line, that suggests he means after his intelligence briefing, which is scheduled for tuesday, with som very high level members of the
intelligence community. He also made reference to President Obama and talked about the fact that they have had a pretty good Working Relationship during this transition and indicated they have been in touch. Reporter so part of what is notable is that donald trump is willing to speak very forcefully on the issue of israel but on the issue of hacking and russias involvement there, he has held back. So thats sort of two different ways in which as this transition period unfolds, he is entering sort of the world conversation and the diplomatic conversation in two different ways. Thats interesting to watch. He has proclaimed that after january 20th, his view toward the u. N. And what it has done regarding israel, he would take a different approach. He has a forceful position on israel. Of course, you heard him criticize the speech that john kerry gave, which was also critical of israels settlements which under the Obama Administration and john kerrys leadership at state, he has felt that that was a deterrent to the two State Solution in the hard to achieve attempts at a Peace Process in that part of the world. Kelly odonnell, thank you. New outrage on the sunday talk shows this morning. Did Donald Trumps reservation about the hacking. More reaction today to President Elect Trumps stance on russian shan hahacking. This time allegations of malware on a laptop. He raised doubts about intelligence reports. A House Democrat is pushing back. Here is congressman adam schiff,
ranking member of the intelligence committee. How solid is the evidence it was the russians . Its very solid. Its overwhelming. The President Elect as you know said that he knows things that other people dont know. He needs to stop talking this way. If he is going to have any credibility as president , he needs to stop talking this way. He needs to stop doing this. They didnt just steal data, they weaponized it. They dumped it with the intent of influencing the outcome. That is not something china has done, frankly russia has done. The department of Homeland Security is backing the Vermont Utility companys assessment that theres no indication the power grid was penetrated. Neither the white house nor russia has commented publically on the code. I want to bring in paul
singer and yamichele. Glad you are spending your new years afternoon with me. Paul, i want to start with you. What does trump mean saying we will find out from him tuesday or wednesday . What has he got . I have no idea. This is the donald trump ran an Election Campaign based on the notion that government is corrupt, lying to you and inept most of the time. The problem he faces is in about three weeks, its his government. And now he has to turn around and say, well, the government is no longer lying to you and no longer inept because its my government. This is a challenge for him. He has denigrated all the institutions that he will have to run and give people confidence in. When you do stuff like this and say, i know stuff you dont know, it leaves the American People thinking, who exactly is in charge . Interesting you use that word, denigrated. We heard adam say he needs to
stop talking this way if he wants credibility. It seems to have worked for him so far. Sure. Because hes not in charge of anything. All he has had to do is run a campaign. He hasnt had to run an agency. Lets see what happens when he has to run these government agencies. Your take on this, when you see him going to Intelligence Briefings this week. Is there anything that could change . How is ts going to affect that coming into it and especially knowing that this so many people want to know what he has to say. The question that reporters and people have been asking since the beginning, i would say, of this campaign season, even though its over now, is that will he become more president ial . We were waiting for him to change his tone and stop tweeting as much and really be more president ial before he won. Now that he won, i dont think he is going to start changing and saying that and start really making solid claims and using evidence and showing
people right away what he means by the things he is saying. He has gotten away with being vague, with really winning this presidency without really laying out his policies. Now he is saying, trust me. Im going to tell you kind of what i know. I have this secret that no one else has. This, of course, has worked for him. His supporters trusted him. I thin Going Forward what paul said is going to be very center to his presidency. People trusted him up until a certain point. Now if you start saying things like this and you dont follow through if He Doesnt Go On Tuesday and wednesday and say this is the evidence, this is why this is different from other parts of the of our history, he is going to have a big problem, i think. Especially when it comes to russia. You have a lot of people watching this. Take a listen here to more of Congressman Schiff this morning and how congress will respond to mr. Trump if he tries to undo the current president s actions against russia. Lets listen. Reaction is going to be even more vigorous, im convinced, in favor of stronger sanctions
against russia. You will see democrats come together with a strong sanctions pa package. Even though what they did was more than symbolic, it is meaningful, its not enough to deter russia. Hard le republicans given the hill, how do you see the fight against russia playing out . Well, were going to find out this week i believe its thursday john mccain and the Armed Services committee is planning a hearing on russian hacking with the intelligence officials sitting there in front of them explaining what they know. There has been indications from a lot of republicans that they believe that mr. Obama steps on sanctions have been too little and too late. They should have been firmer. Its entirely possible the Republican Congress want to move very swiftly and very significantly against russia in ways mr. Trump has not embraced at all. It will be interesting to see what happens thursday and see what they say, mr. Mccain particularly says about hacking and what it did to the elections. Take away from that press
conference, i guess or just q a yesterday at the party was his take on computers and what he said. Frankly saying theyre not safe. If you want to have sensitive Material Courier . I think thats going to be that snail mail situation. But i think the fact that he is saying that you shouldnt use email, you shouldnt use computers at all, thats really problematic. Most people who understand the government or most people who understand how information is used and given back and forth to each other understand that the swiftest way if the president might be traveling around the country or might be in another country is to use some form of electronic communication. Its going to be very surprising to a lot of people, journalists who covered donald trump understand how he uses devices and how he uses how he
doesnt use computers and how he uses a cell phone. I think its going to be interesting to people, the American People when they start understanding that the president as of now does not use email. You have that scenario. Computers arent safe. Then mr. Tweet, tweet away, as we have seen. Then you have incoming press Secretary Sean Spicer who said this this morning and his lack of news conferences. Everyoneants to talk about the tweets he sends. Would focus on the action that he is getting. Donald trump is not president yet and he is getting action, successes and wins both abroad and here at home. Were going to see twitter . Absolutely you are going to see twitter. He said that he was going to cut back. The fact of the matter is that when he tweets, he gets results. Are you going to have regular White House Press briefings . Absolutely. Some way. Some on camera. Some will be off. Help me understand here. Essentially, by that sense its computers equal unsafe. But then again, tweets equals results. Paul. Well, of cou