Up almost immediately. This is a deep embarrassment for kim jong un. Happening as u. S. Warships are heading to the region to deter this very sort of provocation. Now, that north korea fired something is really not a surprise. Theres been speculation for weeks that a Nuclear Missile test was in the works. What isnt clear is the reaction or the extent of reaction particularly from the United States. President trump has said that north korea is a problem that will be dealt with. But so far on the test hes been silent. With only a brief statement acknowledging the test, and the failure. That was coming from the defense secretary, general james mattis. Vice president pence has waded toig this into this tension in the region. Tomorrow hes meeting with south korean officials on u. S. Securitiesy assurances, but the Vice President has barely acknowledged this latest test. Suggesting this is official white house policy. At least for the time being to deny north korea the attention that its seeking. Richard . Janice, thank you so much. As for how President Trump is responding to this situation on north korea hes been very reserved in his response to kim jong uns actions. Lets turn to west palm beach, florida, where Kelly Odonnell is traveling with President Trump. How is the administration responding to north korea . Reporter good afternoon, richard. The trump family Easter Holiday is winding down now. President trump is expected to return to washington in a short while. And this has been both a quiet and a busy time over the Holiday Weekend for the president and the Trump Administration. Of course theres been so much attention about the failed launch by north korea, expectations about north korea ratcheting up tensions and provocations with the west. The president himself has not commented and that has very much been part of the strategy. We heard from the defense secretary, we heard from the National Security adviser but not directly by President Trump. They dont want him to elevate what kim jong un has done so the president is talking about other things like policy toward north korea, not the specifics of the launch. The president did use a series of tweets today to address range of issues including china saying he would not call china a currency manipulator even though he had done that during the president ial campaign. Because they are helping with north korea. Top aides say that the president and the chinese president had a lot of time to talk about this when president xi visited maralago. More time than they had scheduled during the meetings and they believe that china is signaling that theyre willing to do some things to help in this area. Especially when it comes to their control and their influence over north korea. President trump is saying that trade is one way that they hope to bridge a gap with china by working together on that. To get chinas support to try to block north Koreas Nuclear ambitions. It has been a busy weekend, but its been time for family. The president and first lady melania trump, tiffany trump, barron trump went to church services. S now tomorrow back to now tomorrow back to washington. A big test for the first lady. The easter egg roll. A tradition that goes back decades. Its also a logistical challenge of a really big scale. Tens of thousands are often expected on the south lawn. Will this new Trump Administration be able to pull that off . Thats one of the questions for tomorrow. Richard . Kelly, thank you so much for. Kelly odonnell. North koreas overnight actions say a lot about what it might and can do next. John kelly explained on nbcs meet the press. In the case of north korea, you know, a kinetic threat against the United States right now is not likely, but certainly a cyber threat. So wed raise various threat levels in the event that happen happened. As for a u. S. Potential response, mcmaster said all options on the table. Were working together with our allies and partners and with the chinese leadership to develop a range of options and the president has asked the National Security council to integrate the efforts of the department of defense, state, our intelligence agencies. So we can provide options and have them ready for him if this pattern of destabilizing behavior continues. And if the north korean regime refuses to denuclearize. Joining me now, msnbc contributor Steve Clemons from the atlantic journal and courts. So much happening in the last 24 hours here. And the question really is, what is kim jong un thinking . What might he do next . He had failure overnight. Might he go for a nuclear explosion, do another test to try to end this as a win for himself . Kim jong un from his perspective sees that china cannot completely shut him down because of the fear of collapse inside north korea. He sees the south korea paranoid and shaky because of what he might do. He sees japan and the United States trying to sort of either intimidate or to create pressures to get him to sort of change course. So kim jong un looks at himself as sort of, you know, the center of attention. And this center of attention typically misbehaves and tries to extort resources from the rest of the world in order to get him to behave. So right now, i think tim kim jong un thinks he has power and thats a problem. Hes not going to pull back the provocations and stand them down. I think if he had a missile test that failed well see another one he launches fairly soon. He wants to remind the world that north korea has Nuclear Weapons thats consequential and trump is on a collision course with that saying that, you know, he doesnt look like hes going to blink and acquiesce to north koreas behavior. So something has to happen between these between us and north korea or were going to eventually collide. I mean, thats essentially whats cooking. Lets go back to the kinetic threat. The words used so much in the last week and we look at the numbers. 18 to 30 Nuclear Devices believed to be held by north korea today. This compared to four to eight before. Cig hekker who estimated that six or seven years ago. At the current rater, i was told that they could weaponize. The Delivery System and the Nuclear Device within the next four years. Would you agree with that . You know, i would. I have looked at siegfried hekkers works over the years. He was a proponent of deeper engagement with north korea to find the most amenable parts of that regime and seduce them over, try to create splits and divides if you will. That doesnt seem to be possible now because kim jong un has killed off so many of his rivals. Particularly within his own family. And so you have got a state run by a person who may be ruthlessly rationale in the way he sees things, but you have donald trump while hes surrounded by jim mattis and general mcmaster and others who have a lot of experience in dealing with north koreas theater, donald trump is not. And when you have two people who want to act like king of the hill its very nerveracking for everyone in between. What i suspect could happen down the road is that while i completely disagree with every analyst thats come on, that thinks that china is going to become an agent of american interests in dealing with north korea, china has a very, very different set of strategic objections with north korea. They do not align with the United States. While they may put on some pressure its not the same way. But in the end of seeing donald trump potentially getting himself ready to apply more muscle, japan and china may actually try and intervene and get us back into some sort of structure or talks. One of those weird things about this north korea situation right now is that theres no iran type deal on the table. There are no Six Party Talks on the table. The Trump Administration says it doesnt want to talk. It says talk is over. But you have got to give north korea something to back into. Youre bringing up president xi and china and leadership in china and in a recent poll of leadership down in china shows that National Security is not the top issue. Its the economy there. Its the economy, its other things and, you know, honestly china wants to maintain the status quo. But one of the things you have to realize that china and the United States are the Largest Overseas trading partners today. This notion that were going to cut off our foot, you know, to basically separate ourselves from china or vice versa as some way to influence china to sort of show that it is that its act chess to the u. S. Access to the u. S. Market is something we trade, thats also crazy. China knows it has enormous power of the u. S. Economy, it holes 1 trillion in debt in u. S. Dollars. They dont want to see anything really change in that. But this notion that were going to have quick moves to solve north korea by using economic leverage makes no sense. How do you see iran and russia playing into this dynamic which is three dimensional, four dimensional in the discussion. I think that iran and russia and our nefarious players in the world, iran needs to abide by the most pieces of the iran deal and it would be nice the north korea saw that and abide by it. But as long as the United States remains deeply concerned and focused on what north korea might do, that gives countries like russia and even china strategic depth in terms of trying to influence the United States. Or to keep the United States distracted. Right now, russia has shown itself not to be working with us on the fronts. Russia would not really would not like to see north korea nuclearize beyond what it is now. But as you were told, north korea is a nuclear nationer already. It will have icbm capable Nuclear Weapons within the next 24 months if something doesnt preempt that. Thank you, Steve Clemons. Then there is the role of cyber warfare and what happened in the last 24 hours. For that angle id like to bring in lance james chief scientist from flash point. The reason why, lance, we want to talk about this, because the idea was brought up perhaps the missile that was tested so early on an Easter Sunday morning, i failed it exploded as the u. S. Command described it. The idea is we used cyber warfare coming from the west to make that fail. Thats one area floated out there by folks like yourself. How would that work . Theres operations on the military side called Information Operations. This is to degrade all of the pieces. Which saw this with the supposed stuxnet and if it was u. S. And irani and if it was focused on the program there we saw that in action back in 2010. Right, so what this does is there are groups out there within the Information Operation divisions of the military called c o, Computer Network operations and they focus on building you know programs or Malicious Software pieces doing precision operations or Precision Information ops. Theyll do recon and find out whats going on and if they find out or get into the country and a foreign asset that we want to degrade the Nuclear Program or whatever, theyll come in and basically add a payload or add a piece in there that will then, take out that piece of equipment. It is like a super worm i guess . Yeah. So stuxnet actually was a worm. Its interesting, it was a seven layer worm. Probably one of the most costly developed pieces of malware for any kind of Government Agency to do. Theres a super worm in the usual sense but it has to be controlled. If it hits the wrong industrial control, this or that, we could have problems. Right, so in some sense its similar to the naenvy s. E. A. L. Operation, you cant go, well write this software it will go out there. It had to be planned, reconnaissance and the intelligence gathering. As has been reported iran and north korea share some of their infrastructure when related to Nuclear Capabilities and in this case the control systems believed to be siemens based and the stuxnet which went after irans centrifuges might work here now. So they know about that now, so theres defense, but theres an advantage. We have sanctions in north korea and in iran. They cannot upgrade to windows you know, they cant get security updates from windows. This plays a huge part in our operational plan, right so when it comes down to it you cant have the same security features as maybe we do in the u. S. Or in countries that are not on the itar defense agreements. What that does, it could give the government access to find a vulnerability they cant deagainst defense against. Power lines are a vulnerability . They are. The software that desgrats between the industrial and the control systems and the actual software themselves. They have been known even both here and abroad to be very insecure due to the way they integrate. Again, we dont know whether they use a stuxnet like worm here or not. But that certainly has been discussed based on how quickly this missile failed. Lance, thank you. Coming up the high cost of protecting the first family as President Trump makes his seventh trip to maralago since taking office. Their experience is coveted. 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Police in riot gear arrested 21 people, 11 more were injured. Several bloodied and beaten and sent to the hospital for treatment. Knives, pepper spray, fireworks, stun guns, ax handles and canned filled with cement were confiscated during the incident. Police continue to investigate saying theyre actively pursuing more arrests associated with this rally. They are collecting any and all Surveillance Video and also social media accounts with video to see if they can identify those who broke the law yesterday and hold them accountable. Emotions ran high on both sides. Heres what demonstrates had to say. You know, these people dont belong in berkeley. Theyre just coming in to start something. This is cowards that want to wear masks and sucker punch people for what reason . Theyre just full of rage. Reporter this is the third time since january an event at berkeley has turned violent. 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