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Voters in here. See what they had to say a little earlier. This time, i voted for john ossoff. Theres a little message being sent by me and others. No question about that. I also do think there needs to be a check on donald trump. So there you have one voter i talked to who said, look, i want toe a check on donald ump. A lot of the voters i heard from today, they do cast this as a referendum on the president himself, on donald trump. Several republicans i talked to said, you know, god bless donald trump. I will say, this isnt necessarily trump country. Trump didnt win here by as much as tom price did, the congressman who was reelected in 2016 by a 20point margin. Trump won by 1. 5 points. At the same time, it does tell you potentially gives you a sense of the energy that the democrats have. Thats what it is going to take if they are actually going to try to make a dent in the Republican House majority in 2018. Ali . Encourage folks to make their voices heard and to make history here in georgia by flipping the sixth district. What are you feeling . What are you thinking is the likely outcome here . There is going to be a runoff . Were within striking distance of winning it today, but itll come down to turnout. Itll come down to whether or not people make their voices heard and go to the polls. If turnout is high, well see that as a favorable indication. Thats why were encouraging folks to vote today. If i dont clear 50 , we be ready to fight and win a runoff if necessary. As i was getting ready for the show, i was looking at social media. There was a discussion about you being in an interview where you were asked about not being able to vote for yourself in this election because you dont live in the district. Can you explain that to me a little bit more . Well, i grew up in this district. I grew up in this community. Of course, no one knew there was an election coming. Ive been by emory university, about ten minutes down the road, the last few years supporting my longtime girlfriend, alicia, while she finishes medical school. Im proud to be supporting her career. When she concludes her training, ill be ten minutes back up the road in the district where i grew up. You made a comment earlier, this race for the voters youre asking to come out, should be about Economic Issues in the constituency, in georgias sixth, and it is less about national issues. Tell me what you meant by that. Well, there are certainly deep concerns here about the direction of things in washington and concerns about the administration. I share those concerns. But were building a coalition thats about more than party and more than opposition to the administration alone. Talking about local economic development. Talking about shared values that unite people here in the community. Courage, compassion, kindness and decency instead of division and fear. Instead of partisanship and gridlock. I think the contrast between a positive, substantive campaign and the nonsense in washington is a good one and it is clear. John ossoff, we will catch up with you throughout the course of the day. You are going to go and continue a bunch of them are democrats. In 2016, tom price won reelection by more than 23 points, in what is thought of as a staunchly conservative area. President trump only won the district by 1. 5 . Tell me why you think it is likely or possible that john ossoff can win this . Yeah, those numbers were pretty striking to us after november. What we saw was a move away from this new Republican Party led by donald trump, and a move to something more moderate. Value that is the Democratic Party have been talking about for years. Were seeing folks that are really unhappy with the direction of that party, and theyre given a really great alternative by the democrats that are in this race and by the leading democrat thats in this race, john ossoff. Were seeing folks that maybe arent your always regular voters going out to the polls that are feeling the fear, the discontent, the unhappiness that this new, sort of National Politics place that we live is causing them, and theyre channelling it into political activi activism. Folks are really feeling this decision is important for themselves and their families. And theyre working to make the right one. All right. Rebecca, good to talk to you. Thank you for being with us. The Executive Drelirector of th Democratic Party in georgia. Right now, i want to bring in the cofounder of the Progressive Change Campaign committee. It is a Grassroots Organization committee that helps candidates and committees. Good to be here. I want to go over the math. Why is a constituency that tom price won by 23 competitive for democrats . That was an early indication that even in this district, People Werent Buying What Trump was selling, even in november. The resistance is strong and thats what this race stands for. As someone who communicates with 1 million activists every day, it was unfathomable in january that wed see this continued energy four months later. The tax march is this weekend. This vibrant campaign today. Well see what happens tonight. This is one domino to fall within many in the next couple months. Thats the language we use on the day people are trying to get out to the polling places. If it doesnt go that way and there is a runoff, does it weaken the argument that everybody is mad at trump . If john ossoff comes in first in the Ruby Red District of georgia six, itll strengthen the argument. We have another election in june. We have a Special Election in montana. No matter what happens to wanig itll feed the energy for the other races. Let m ask you about people likelizabeth wren, massachusetts senator. Your group has done a lot of work with her, with keith ellison, with very, very progressive members of the Democratic Party. What messaging are you hearing . What response are you getting from people . The beautiful thing, when Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders challenge Corporate Power, establishment power, thats a message that plays well in the red states. Bernie sanders goes to west virginia, holds town Hall Meetings and has the crowd applauding for medicare for all. You dont need that populus messaging to win in a blue state. Its bonus for them. For people running in red states in particular, our advice is lean into economics. Even Republican Voters are willing to cross economic lines if their familys economic interests are there. These populus economic messages dont sound dissimilar, whether you heard them from donald trump, Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. Its the working person against the establishment and institution. It is important to have heros and villains. Donald trumps villains tend to be minorities and other people. In a more democratic or progressive narrative, were talking about what Corporate Power is. Were talking about when corporations pay 0 in taxes, your family pays more. If the Insurance Company is ripping you off, you have Less Health Care and higher prices. Both are aimed at speaking to the economic anxieties of people. Its just, who do you blame and who are the heros in your story . Elizabeth warren and Bernie Sanders are making a case for government taking on Corporate Power. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Adam green, the cofounder of the progressive change committee. The georgia race isnt the only thing President Trump is talking about this morning. Hes talking about foreign issues. Among the issues, north korea. He was asked whether u. S. Sabotage was responsible for north koreas failed missile test over the weekend, whether he ruled out a Military Strike against north korea. I dont want to telegraph what im doi or what im thking. Im not like other administrations, where they say, were going to do this in four weeks. Doesnt work that way. Did w sabotage the north korea strike . I dont want to comment on it. What happens if north korea launches another missile . Well find out. Msnbcs Chris Jansing joins us live now from the white house. Hi, chris. Along with north korea, the president lashed out against those who say that he has softened his stance on china. Yeah, he says he didnt change his chance at all. He said it is all good. He had the meetings at maralago with president xi. Subsequent phone calls. This relationship is, in fact, going to be a positive. When he was asked specifically about changing his stance, heres what he said. Nobody has ever seen such a positive response on our behalf from china. Then the fake media goes, donald trump has changed his stance on china. I havent. China is trying to help us. I dont know if theyll be able to or not. Do i want to start heavy trade or currency manipulation statements against somebody out there right now trying to stop what could be a very bad situation . That bad situation, of course, is north korea. But on currency manipulation, as you well know, ali, he did change his stance. Of course he did, yeah. There is good reason to do it. China is no longer a currency manipulator. Maybe theyre manipulating it the other way, trying to raise the currency. Maybe he thinks it is manipulation. Who knows what the deal is. Thank you so much. Thank you. Up next, day three of a desperate manhunt thats expanded nationwide. Officials are stepping up the search for a suspect who murdered an elderly man on easter and posted the video on facebook. Authorities are asking the public for help. Were getting people as far away as texas. Theyre saying, hey, i just saw him in a walmart. Theyre calling the tip line. If you think you spot him or the vehicle, call 911. Your local jurisdiction so they can get officers there right away. Someone out there has a key piece of information that could help us resolve this matter. They just might not know it. I am totally blind. And i live with non24, a circadian rhythm disorder that c throw my days and ghts out of sync, keeping me from the people, places, and things i love. The people i love have always been there for me. And now, im there for them, too. Talk to your doctor, and call 8442142424 to learn more. Is to always keep track of your employees. R micromanage them. Make sure theyre producing. Woo Employee Of The Month you really shouldnt leave their side. Vita coco coconut water, hydration comes naturally. Lwhos the lucky lady . Im going to the bank, to discuss a mortgage. Ugh, see, you need a loan, you put on a suit, you go crawling to the bank. This is how i dress to get a mortgage. I just go to lendingtree. I calculate how much home i can afford. I get multiple offers to compare side by side. And the best part is. The banks come crawling to me. Everything you need to get a better mortgage. Clothing optional. Lendingtree, when banks compete, you win. Okay . Awkward. Nitrites or artificial mesquite preservatives. Added nitrates, now its good for us all. Like introverts. Extroverts. cheering and even bert. Man you gotta try this sandwich. Whos just overt. Oscar mayer deli fresh. So good . Better than a manual, and my hygienist says it does. But. Theyre not all the same. Turns out, theyre really. Different. Who knew . I had no idea. So, she said look for. One thats shaped like a dental tool with a round. Brush head. Go pro with oralb. Oralbs rounded brush head surrounds each tooth to. Gently remove more plaque and. Oralb crossaction is clinically proven to. Remove more plaque than sonicare diamondclean. My mouth feels so clean. Ill only use an oralb the 1 brand used by dentists worldwide. Oralb. Brush like a pro. Stephens, leapt from his car and shot 74yearold godwin, at random, and posted the Execution Style Murder on the social media site. The manhunt for stephens is nationwide with a 50,000 reward offered for his capture. Jacob rascon is live in cleveland, where authorities gave an update earlier this morning. What is the latest on this . So they announced they received almost 400 ts nationwide. Thats an impressive nuer. Thats as far away as philadelphia, near a school where the police were searching there. Or texas at a walmart. So far, none of those tips have proved to be credible, or they havent found anything because of those tips. Theyre urging the public to please continue to talk. Please continue to look out. If you have any information that might lead to them finding him or the car, call the 1800call 1800callfbitip line. If you see the White Ford Fusion or the man himself, dial 911 wherever you are. There is a warrant out for his arrest. Any jurisdiction where he might be found, the police there are able to apprehend him based on the warrant. So what the theories are, because thats all they have right now, the u. S. Marshals, the fbi were asked what they think happened. How long they think this will take. They said, look, from a couple of days from a couple of weeks to a couple of years. And the head of the u. S. Marshals or the person in charge of the investigation from that standpoint here said, look, its quite possible that either hes already dead or there is a friend helping him out. So the bottom line in all of this is they dont know where he is. They need the publics help. Thank you, jacob. Well continue this story closely. Secretary of Defense James Mattis is in saudi arabia. Mike pence is in japan. More on the Nuclear Threat from north korea when when e come ba. Started eating beneful. The number one ingredient in it is beef. einstein the beef is fantastic becky he has enough energy to believe that he can jump high enough to catch a bird. vo and now try new beneful grain free, simply made with wholesome ingredients, and no grain. Kevin, meet yourkeviner. Kevin Kevin Kevin Kevin Kevin Kevin Kevin kevin kevin trusted advice for life. Kevin, hows your mom . Life well planned. See what a Raymond James Financial Advisor can do for you. Tour of the mideast and north africa that includes visits to egypt and israel. Among the main topics he is expected to discussion, syria and president assads future and the battle against isis. On the flight, secretary mattis also talked about north korea, telling reporters the countrys unpredictable leader, kim jongun, quote, again recklessly tried to provoke something with his failed Missile Tests over the weend. Vice president pence is in japan. He had stern words for pyongyang. The United States will continue to work with japan and with all our allies in the region, including south korea, to confront the most ominous threat posing this region of the world. The regime in north korea. All options are on the table. Not to be outdone, north korea is issuing new threats and accusations. Janice joins us live now from seoul, south korea. Good to see you again. What are north korean officials saying now . Well, there was sharp reaction to what Vice President mike pence was saying yesterday, when he was here in south korea. In giving the Ironclad American Commitment to south korea in facing the threat of north korea. Suggesting that north korea could get the same treatment as syria and afghanistan if it didnt halt its Nuclear Programs and stop its weapons development. That was reason enough for the message to go through diplomatic channels with the regime. Not coming from pyongyang as much as new york. With the deputy ambassador to the United Nations suggesting that donald trump was responsible for the escalation in the region. Accused him of Gangster Type Logic in creating a situation where Thermo Nuclear war could break out at any moment. Heres more of what he had to say. If the United States dare to opt for the military actions, the crying out for preemptive attack and the removal of the headquarters, the tprk is ready to react to any act of war desired by the american. There is also the vice Foreign Minister in pyongyang saying that Missile Tests will continue every week, month, year, at the time of the regimes choosing. So there is this building up of even bolder rhetoric on both sides. This is what mike pence took into the meetings today with shinzo abe in giving those Security Assurances to japan. Ali . Janice, thanks very much for the constant updates from you in seoul, south korea. Lets bring in two experts on this. Lindsey ford served as Senior Adviser On Asia Policies during the Obama Administration at the defense department. Now in the Asia Society Policy institute. Michael allen was in the george w. Bush white house for senior Counter Policy and a staff for the intelligence committee. Hes Managing Director of the Homeland Security advisory firm, beacon global strategies. Between the two of you, youve had a lot of experience in this. It is interesting to note how the Republican House<\/a> majority in 2018. Ali . Encourage folks to make their voices heard and to make history here in georgia by flipping the sixth district. What are you feeling . What are you thinking is the likely outcome here . There is going to be a runoff . Were within striking distance of winning it today, but itll come down to turnout. Itll come down to whether or not people make their voices heard and go to the polls. If turnout is high, well see that as a favorable indication. Thats why were encouraging folks to vote today. If i dont clear 50 , we be ready to fight and win a runoff if necessary. As i was getting ready for the show, i was looking at social media. There was a discussion about you being in an interview where you were asked about not being able to vote for yourself in this election because you dont live in the district. Can you explain that to me a little bit more . Well, i grew up in this district. I grew up in this community. Of course, no one knew there was an election coming. Ive been by emory university, about ten minutes down the road, the last few years supporting my longtime girlfriend, alicia,\rwhile she finishes medical school. Im proud to be supporting her career. When she concludes her training, ill be ten minutes back up the road in the district where i grew up. You made a comment earlier, this race for the voters youre asking to come out, should be about Economic Issues<\/a> in the constituency, in georgias sixth, and it is less about national issues. Tell me what you meant by that. Well, there are certainly deep concerns here about the direction of things in washington and concerns about the administration. I share those concerns. But were building a coalition thats about more than party and more than opposition to the administration alone. Talking about local economic development. Talking about shared values that unite people here in the community. Courage, compassion, kindness and decency instead of division and fear. Instead of partisanship and gridlock. I think the contrast between a positive, substantive campaign and the nonsense in washington is a good one and it is clear. John ossoff, we will catch up with you throughout the course of the day. You are going to go and continue\ra bunch of them are democrats. In 2016, tom price won reelection by more than 23 points, in what is thought of as a staunchly conservative area. President trump only won the district by 1. 5 . Tell me why you think it is likely or possible that john ossoff can win this . Yeah, those numbers were pretty striking to us after november. What we saw was a move away from this new Republican Party<\/a> led by donald trump, and a move to something more moderate. Value that is the Democratic Party<\/a> have been talking about for years. Were seeing folks that are really unhappy with the direction of that party, and theyre given a really great alternative by the democrats that are in this race and by the leading democrat thats in this race, john ossoff. Were seeing folks that maybe arent your always regular voters going out to the polls that are feeling the fear, the discontent, the unhappiness that\rthis new, sort of National Politics<\/a> place that we live is causing them, and theyre channelling it into political activi activism. Folks are really feeling this decision is important for themselves and their families. And theyre working to make the right one. All right. Rebecca, good to talk to you. Thank you for being with us. The Executive Drelirector<\/a> of th Democratic Party<\/a> in georgia. Right now, i want to bring in the cofounder of the Progressive Change Campaign<\/a> committee. It is a Grassroots Organization<\/a> committee that helps candidates and committees. Good to be here. I want to go over the math. Why is a constituency that tom price won by 23 competitive for democrats . That was an early indication that even in this district, People Werent Buying What Trump<\/a> was selling, even in november. The resistance is strong and thats what this race stands for. As someone who communicates with 1 million activists every day,\rit was unfathomable in january that wed see this continued energy four months later. The tax march is this weekend. This vibrant campaign today. Well see what happens tonight. This is one domino to fall within many in the next couple months. Thats the language we use on the day people are trying to get out to the polling places. If it doesnt go that way and there is a runoff, does it weaken the argument that everybody is mad at trump . If john ossoff comes in first in the Ruby Red District<\/a> of georgia six, itll strengthen the argument. We have another election in june. We have a Special Election<\/a> in montana. No matter what happens to wanig itll feed the energy for the other races. Let m ask you about people likelizabeth wren, massachusetts senator. Your group has done a lot of work with her, with keith ellison, with very, very\rprogressive members of the Democratic Party<\/a>. What messaging are you hearing . What response are you getting from people . The beautiful thing, when Elizabeth Warren<\/a> and Bernie Sanders<\/a> challenge Corporate Power<\/a>, establishment power, thats a message that plays well in the red states. Bernie sanders goes to west virginia, holds town Hall Meetings<\/a> and has the crowd applauding for medicare for all. You dont need that populus messaging to win in a blue state. Its bonus for them. For people running in red states in particular, our advice is lean into economics. Even Republican Voters<\/a> are willing to cross economic lines if their familys economic interests are there. These populus economic messages dont sound dissimilar, whether you heard them from donald trump, Bernie Sanders<\/a> or Elizabeth Warren<\/a>. Its the working person against the establishment and institution. It is important to have heros and villains. Donald trumps villains tend to be minorities and other people. In a more democratic or progressive narrative, were\rtalking about what Corporate Power<\/a> is. Were talking about when corporations pay 0 in taxes, your family pays more. If the Insurance Company<\/a> is ripping you off, you have Less Health Care<\/a> and higher prices. Both are aimed at speaking to the economic anxieties of people. Its just, who do you blame and who are the heros in your story . Elizabeth warren and Bernie Sanders<\/a> are making a case for government taking on Corporate Power<\/a>. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Adam green, the cofounder of the progressive change committee. The georgia race isnt the only thing President Trump<\/a> is talking about this morning. Hes talking about foreign issues. Among the issues, north korea. He was asked whether u. S. Sabotage was responsible for north koreas failed missile test over the weekend, whether he ruled out a Military Strike<\/a> against north korea. I dont want to telegraph what im doi or what im thking. Im not like other administrations, where they say, were going to do this in four weeks. Doesnt work that way. Did w sabotage the north korea strike . I dont want to comment on it. What happens if north korea launches another missile . Well find out. Msnbcs Chris Jansing<\/a> joins us live now from the white house. Hi, chris. Along with north korea, the president lashed out against those who say that he has softened his stance on china. Yeah, he says he didnt change his chance at all. He said it is all good. He had the meetings at maralago with president xi. Subsequent phone calls. This relationship is, in fact, going to be a positive. When he was asked specifically about changing his stance, heres what he said. Nobody has ever seen such a positive response on our behalf from china. Then the fake media goes, donald trump has changed his stance on china. I havent. China is trying to help us. I dont know if theyll be able to or not. Do i want to start heavy trade or currency manipulation\rstatements against somebody out there right now trying to stop what could be a very bad situation . That bad situation, of course, is north korea. But on currency manipulation, as you well know, ali, he did change his stance. Of course he did, yeah. There is good reason to do it. China is no longer a currency manipulator. Maybe theyre manipulating it the other way, trying to raise the currency. Maybe he thinks it is manipulation. Who knows what the deal is. Thank you so much. Thank you. Up next, day three of a desperate manhunt thats expanded nationwide. Officials are stepping up the search for a suspect who murdered an elderly man on easter and posted the video on facebook. Authorities are asking the public for help. Were getting people as far away as texas. Theyre saying, hey, i just saw him in a walmart. Theyre calling the tip line. If you think you spot him or the vehicle, call 911. Your local jurisdiction so they can get officers there right away. Someone out there has a key piece of information that could help us resolve this matter. They just might not know it. I am totally blind. And i live with non24, a circadian rhythm disorder that c throw my days and ghts out of sync, keeping me from the people, places, and things i love. The people i love have always been there for me. And now, im there for them, too. Talk to your doctor, and call 8442142424 to learn more. Is to always keep track of your employees. R micromanage them. Make sure theyre producing. Woo Employee Of The Month<\/a> you really shouldnt leave their side. Vita coco coconut water, hydration comes naturally. Lwhos the lucky lady . Im going to the bank, to discuss a mortgage. Ugh, see, you need a loan, you put on a suit, you go crawling to the bank. This is how i dress to get a mortgage. I just go to lendingtree. I calculate how much home i can afford. I get multiple offers to compare side by side. And the best part is. The banks come crawling to me. Everything you need to get a better mortgage. Clothing optional. Lendingtree, when banks compete, you win. Okay . Awkward. Nitrites or artificial mesquite preservatives. Added nitrates, now its good for us all. Like introverts. Extroverts. cheering and even bert. Man you gotta try this sandwich. Whos just overt. Oscar mayer deli fresh. So good . Better than a manual, and my hygienist says it does. But. Theyre not all the same. Turns out, theyre really. Different. Who knew . I had no idea. So, she said look for. One thats shaped like a dental tool with a round. Brush head. Go pro with oralb. Oralbs rounded brush head surrounds each tooth to. Gently remove more plaque and. Oralb crossaction is clinically proven to. Remove more plaque than sonicare diamondclean. My mouth feels so clean. Ill only use an oralb the 1 brand used by dentists worldwide. Oralb. Brush like a pro. Stephens, leapt from his car and shot 74yearold godwin, at random, and posted the Execution Style Murder<\/a> on the social media site. The manhunt for stephens is nationwide with a 50,000 reward offered for his capture. Jacob rascon is live in cleveland, where authorities gave an update earlier this morning. What is the latest on this . So they announced they received almost 400 ts nationwide. Thats an impressive nuer. Thats as far away as philadelphia, near a school where the police were searching there. Or texas at a walmart. So far, none of those tips have proved to be credible, or they havent found anything because of those tips. Theyre urging the public to please continue to talk. Please continue to look out. If you have any information that might lead to them finding him or the car, call the 1800call 1800callfbitip line. If you see the White Ford Fusion<\/a> or the man himself, dial 911\rwherever you are. There is a warrant out for his arrest. Any jurisdiction where he might be found, the police there are able to apprehend him based on the warrant. So what the theories are, because thats all they have right now, the u. S. Marshals, the fbi were asked what they think happened. How long they think this will take. They said, look, from a couple of days from a couple of weeks to a couple of years. And the head of the u. S. Marshals or the person in charge of the investigation from that standpoint here said, look, its quite possible that either hes already dead or there is a friend helping him out. So the bottom line in all of this is they dont know where he is. They need the publics help. Thank you, jacob. Well continue this story closely. Secretary of Defense James Mattis<\/a> is in saudi arabia. Mike pence is in japan. More on the Nuclear Threat<\/a> from north korea when when e come ba. Started eating beneful. The number one ingredient in it is beef. einstein the beef is fantastic becky he has enough energy to believe that he can jump high enough to catch a bird. vo and now try new beneful grain free, simply made with wholesome ingredients, and no grain. Kevin, meet yourkeviner. Kevin Kevin Kevin Kevin<\/a> Kevin Kevin Kevin<\/a> kevin kevin trusted advice for life. Kevin, hows your mom . Life well planned. See what a Raymond James<\/a> Financial Advisor<\/a> can do for you. Tour of the mideast and north africa that includes visits to egypt and israel. Among the main topics he is expected to discussion, syria and president assads future and the battle against isis. On the flight, secretary mattis also talked about north korea, telling reporters the countrys unpredictable leader, kim jongun, quote, again recklessly tried to provoke something with his failed Missile Tests<\/a> over the weend. Vice president pence is in japan. He had stern words for pyongyang. The United States<\/a> will continue to work with japan and with all our allies in the region, including south korea, to confront the most ominous threat posing this region of the world. The regime in north korea. All options are on the table. Not to be outdone, north korea is issuing new threats and accusations. Janice joins us live now from seoul, south korea. Good to see you again. What are north korean officials\rsaying now . Well, there was sharp reaction to what Vice President<\/a> mike pence was saying yesterday, when he was here in south korea. In giving the Ironclad American Commitment<\/a> to south korea in facing the threat of north korea. Suggesting that north korea could get the same treatment as syria and afghanistan if it didnt halt its Nuclear Programs<\/a> and stop its weapons development. That was reason enough for the message to go through diplomatic channels with the regime. Not coming from pyongyang as much as new york. With the deputy ambassador to the United Nations<\/a> suggesting that donald trump was responsible for the escalation in the region. Accused him of Gangster Type Logic<\/a> in creating a situation where Thermo Nuclear<\/a> war could break out at any moment. Heres more of what he had to say. If the United States<\/a> dare to opt for the military actions,\rthe crying out for preemptive attack and the removal of the headquarters, the tprk is ready to react to any act of war desired by the american. There is also the vice Foreign Minister<\/a> in pyongyang saying that Missile Tests<\/a> will continue every week, month, year, at the time of the regimes choosing. So there is this building up of even bolder rhetoric on both sides. This is what mike pence took into the meetings today with shinzo abe in giving those Security Assurances<\/a> to japan. Ali . Janice, thanks very much for the constant updates from you in seoul, south korea. Lets bring in two experts on this. Lindsey ford served as Senior Adviser<\/a> On Asia Policies<\/a> during the Obama Administration<\/a> at the defense department. Now in the Asia Society Policy<\/a> institute. Michael allen was in the george w. Bush white house for senior Counter Policy<\/a> and a staff for\rthe intelligence committee. Hes Managing Director<\/a> of the Homeland Security<\/a> advisory firm, beacon global strategies. Between the two of you, youve had a lot of experience in this. It is interesting to note how the American Administration<\/a> is talking about this. Lindsey, Vice President<\/a> pence told north korea when he was in japan and in south korea the era of patience is over. Yet, the current policy doesnt look all that different from poet the Obama Policies<\/a> and the george w. Bushs policies on these. Yeah. There is actually a fair degree of continuity here. Weve heard the era of strategic patience is over. There was a Question Mark<\/a> of, what era are we in now . Really, some of it remains the same. Were talking about increased economic sanctions, talking about making more pressure on china to se if w can get china to ratchet down on north korea. Thats similar to what weve been doing for quite some time. One thing that is different is\rthe degree to which we see this administration openly discussing that Military Options<\/a> may be on the table. Theyve always been on the table. I think they are certainly making that far clearer. Let me ask you this, michael. When you look at this, and i dont like to make too many comparisons to iran because they are different, but there is the idea you can make no deal and keep things going the way theyre going. There could actually be Somebody Attacking<\/a> somebody. Nuclear war. Or there can be some kind of a deal. In a deal, north korea gets something out of the whole thing. This is the same struggle weve had since about the 60s In America<\/a> when it comes to north korea. Is there Something Different<\/a> now . I think there is. I think we have a new president who is largely a Question Mark<\/a> for much of the world. Hes definitely trying to change the strategic calculus of china. We tried this in the bush years. I know the obama folks did, as well. President trump is trying to ramp it up. I think hes trying to say to the chinese, look, i know youd rather not deal with this, but this is a serious issue. Its no longer north ykorea s no longer just a regional power. Theyre improving the baa bl ballistic missiles. We cant track them like we used to. Hes saying, the era of strategic patience is dpoeover. We have to get in the game and do, like in regard to iran, iranian style sanctions to get to diplomatic solutions. The thing about iran and the reason i dont make the comparison is because iran, prior to sanctions, during sanctions and since, it is a big, robust economy that does deal with other parts of the world. It is not a hermit economy. For a strange reason, north coll korea, and maybe because it is isolated, managed to survive in the face of horrible sanctions. The country is broke. It is very, very poor. About 90 some of the businesses are with china. It is true. I think there are important differences between the iranian case and the case we see in north korea. One, economic. Two, political. I think at some point, you have to believe you had iranian leadership you could deal with. Were not there with north korea. You have to test that. But, you know, also, there was a wider degree of international ability to pressure the iranian regime. What were looking at in the north korean situation is different economic Pressure Points<\/a> and different people who have the Pressure Points<\/a>. It is the chinese. China and china. Not us. Right. When your strategy is a bank shot off the chinese, its much more challenging to believe you can execute it s. But it is an Important Bank<\/a> shot. If the chinese decide to help out in this, they can. They do i guess the question is, do they really exercise a great deal of influence over kim jongun . And all of the Foreign Trade<\/a> is with china. They definitely have a lot of\rinfluence over north koreas economy. I think it is a Question Mark<\/a> whether they have direct influence over kim jongun. He is an independent operator. I think in the past, even his predecessors showed a little bit of a reluctance to always do what china says. Right. At the same time, theres not another card to play. This is a very big card. I think all of us come to the same conclusion, that going to war would be a disaster. What we have to do is increase the pressure to enable serious diplomacy. Weve sort of been in a cycle of failed diplomacy for decades now. The unintended winner in this might be china. President trump campaigned, and appointed, certain officials on the basis that china is economic enemy number one. Currency manipulator. He is going to balance out trade with china. China might say, we can help you on this north korea thing if you stop calls us a currency manipulator, stop doing things. Donald trump already said hes\rkind of going down that road. I think there are potential concerns about the approach hes taken there, of you help us on north korea and ill make a deal on trade. One is the message it potentially sends to other countries in the asian region. The question is, okay, is everything now transactional for the United States<\/a> . Right. If it is, what else might they be willing to trade . The fear here has always been, the u. S. And china go to a side room, cut deals amongst themselves and whats that mean for the rest of snus . Domestically, this is a president who campaigned on china, huge economic threat, massive problem. It is a big part of what got him ele elected. For domestic constituencies, how do they read this, what it means for their interests . Great conversation. 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And when you replace one meal or snack a day with glucerna made with carbsteady to help minimize blood sugar spikes you can really feel it. Glucerna. Everyday progress. In a short time from now, President Trump<\/a> will head to wisconsin to sign a new Executive Order<\/a> targeting some foreign workers. Its called, buy american, hire american. It cracks down on the visa program that the white house says is being used by some companies to undercut American Work<\/a>ers. Back with us is Chris Jansing<\/a> tat white house. Explain a little more what this Executive Order<\/a> is likely to do. The visa program youre talking about, President Trump<\/a>\rtalked a lot about it on the campaign trail. What it was designed to do is bring in highly skilled workers from other countries, mostly into the tech industry. This is very important, for example, to silicon valley. But what critics say its actually done is allow those workers to be brought here, be paid less and keep americans from getting their jobs. So what will this do . Well, nothing this year at all, to be honest. The program is already underway. In fact, it wont do what the president said he was going to do, which is get rid of it all together. What it will prompt is a sort of review that theyll have to prove these companies that the workers theyre bringing in are necessary workers. It will not touch some of the other programs, some of these other worker programs. For example, the h2b program is designed to bring in seasonal workers. The keend thind the president , example,maralago. They would not be affected. Thank you. As President Trump<\/a> prepares\rhis Executive Order<\/a> this morning, the Acting Director<\/a> of citizenship and Immigration Services<\/a> is being pressed about one part of the order. The h1b visa program. Nbc spoke with him this morning. Good to see you. We had rare access into the department of Homeland Security<\/a>. Uscis. I asked what theyre doing about the h1b visas. 199,000 applications have been received. Thats the lowest in four years. As the organization tries to figure out what to do next, i asked, how are they trying to fight fraud and what are they trying to do . This is what the Acting Director<\/a> had to say. The message from the Department Of Justice<\/a> recently on emphasizing the message on enforcement is helpful to us on the antifraud efforts. As we investigate and work with our other partners, we need all of the different input and those actions across the whole spectrum. To, in other words, what we find that we think needs enforcement action, definitely appreciate that being strengthened and\rsupported by the Department Of Justice<\/a> and others. For those that are, to your question, raise concerns or feel uncertain, id say this. The h1b program itself, passed by congress 27 years ago, has standards and guidelines weve been abiding by. Our emphasis right now is really on antifraud. Really, if someone is in all faith and cantor, providing all the information they should, there shouldnt be a concern on that front. Our efforts are really focused on cracking down on those that are abusing the program. Certainly, it disadvantages u. S. Workers. Quite frankly, it would also be disadvantaging those that are wellintentioned in using the h1b program itself. The priority is fighting fraud. The issue is acoeos are concerned about the Talent Pipeline<\/a> coming from overseas for the jobs that are specific\ri specialized. One tech firm said we want to expand hiring because we dont know what is going to be next. Theyre trying not to be political but the controversy is swirling. Thank you. Tax day is here. This day, in particular, putting President Trump<\/a> under more fire as his refusal to release his tax returns are having an impact on his efforts to overhaul the tax code. This morning, the New York Times<\/a> reports democrats are uniting around a pledge not to cooperate on any rewriting of the tax code unless they know specifically how the revision would benefit the billionaire president and his family. Congressional republicans, meantime, are getting backlash from their constituents back ohm as they try to defend the president s refusal to release his tax returns. This is senator cotton of arkansas yesterday. Im wondering if youll take\rthe initiative to have him release those returns so we can see what kinds of connections he has with Different Countries<\/a> around the world. As far as im aware, the president says hes still under audit. Financial times reports the administrations timetable for a Tax Reform Hit<\/a> a setback. The treasury secretary, steve mnuchin, is pushing back the target date of august, calling it not realistic. Joining me the founder of americans for tax reform, an organization that opposes all tax increases. Good to see you. Good to be with you. The issue of tax reform, there was a sense after health care failed and they said, were moving to tax reform. I thought, if you thought health care was hard, taxes arent easier politically. Id argue it is. You have a consensus among the house, senate, white house, the Corporate Tax<\/a> income rate at 35 is out of line with the rest of the world. Taking it to 20 or 15 solves problems in terms of inversions. Also, we have a problem where a lot of pass through companies, smaller businesses, subchapter s cha companies, their rate is over 40 . Cut it to 20 . Make faster depreciation. These are The Big Picture<\/a> items that, quote, unquote, cost the mote. Everybody agrees on those. You can argue about different things. They dont, in the present effort, fix the problem for americans who live overseas and work erseas. Ght. They get double taxed. Theylfix it for companies but dont have plans to fix it for individuals. I hope they can get it done. Let me show the viewers what the blueprint talks about. Were using 20 as a number because repeatedly, weve heard from the white house, it is going to be hard to get to 15 . Consensus right now. Cutting rates to 33, 25 and 12 eliminate the alternative\rminimum tax and the estate tax. While there may be consensus on this, there isnt with democrats. When youre talking about comprehensive tax reform, does that matt centner. Matter . No. Gra grasshoppers, squirrels cant vote on it. Were not voting for anything unless we get this. Theyre not voting anyway. Theyre opposed to any reform on obamacare. Never mind repeal. No reform. They fought us all the way since they put it in. Theyre not part of the discussion. You need 95 of democrats to agree, but there are no democrat votes for health care or tax reform. There may be at the end of the day a couple of democrats in completely deep red states who vote for a tax reform once it already hits 50 votes. Are you worried about the Freedom Caucus<\/a> people not liking something in this Tax Reform Bill<\/a> . Less Freedom Caucus<\/a>. They announced any gain of 25\rcould walk out the door and hold everybody hostage. They created a gang of moderates and appropriators. You always have this situation. You have multiple gangs now because the Freedom Caucus<\/a> okayed the other gangs. Theyll tell you, no, no, if everybody gave us what we wanted, everything would be fine. Well, other people can have that opinion, too, and do. It will come together because the pressure on anybody who wants to be a holdout is so strong because the tax code is so out of whack. The rates we have now, the double and triple taxation of inme becomes indefensible. And the Business Company<\/a> and the stock market priced in the stocks that Something Like<\/a> this is going to happen. Pull that rug out from underneath started to happen. Softened things up, Asth Mnuchi Talks<\/a> about taxes not going through. Border tax. Businesses arent liking the\ridea. A lot of people say, this is going to affect retailers, consumers, going to affect businesses unfairly. What is your take on it . All taxes affect consumers and hit consumers. At the end of the day, all taxes are taxes on consumption, even on investment. The only reason you invest is you plan to consume in the future. Arguably, the wealthiest among us, all taxes are not consumption taxes. If you only spend a portion of what you earn well, if you never spend it, i guess youre sitting on money you invest in other peoples businesses. Right. If you spend the money, yes. So what were looking at here with the border adjustable tax is that as one of the pay force. The overall plan is a 2. 5 trillion cut over a decade. Everybody is going to see dramatically reduced taxes. As you move stuff around a little bit in the tax reform part, the border adjustable feature of the Corporate Income<\/a> tax, not new income taxes but a feature, it allows you to have a territorial tax system like most\rother nations do without setting up a police state overseas, which is what other efforts had to do. If you want to replace the border adjustable feature of the Corporate Income<\/a> tax, you have to come up with a solution, how you dont have money recognized overseas that isnt taxed at all. Right. And you have to come up with about 1 trillion over a decade in reducing some of the other tax cuts or some other tax cut. Thats whats the burden is now on the critics of the dat to say, whats the alternativesome. Well have a good conversation just on that, to discuss what the alternatives are. Good to see you. President of americans for tax reform. 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Side effects can lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. Nows the time for a better moment of proof. Ask your doctor about victoza\u00ae. All right, we have Breaking News<\/a> right now. Pennsylvania state police say the suspect wanted for killing an elderly man and posting that video on facebook is dead. Police say Steve Stephens<\/a> was spotted this morning in erie, pennsylvania. Stephens shot and killed himself. Were trying to get more confirmed reporting on that. A man who, videotaped, videoed\ron facebook the killing of an elderly man, posting it on facebook getting millions of views. The people have been asking for the publics help locating this man, reports coming in from all over the place. And now we have resports that he has been found dead in erie, pennsylvania. The governor of pennsylvania is thanking the police for their help in this investigation. And is reporting that no one else has been hurt as far as they know. We will continue to cover this for you once we get more details, jacob roscon is in cleveland covering it for us. And right behind us, the president s helicopter has\rlanded. He is tarking a trip to talk about american jobs and buying american. The other Breaking News<\/a> that were following, ill ask for our control room when they have more on that to let me know. In the meantime were going to go on to a big story were covering i guess not. We have pictures that i dont know where theyre from right now. Once we get more investigatifor will tell you about that. That is apparently erie, pennsylvania where the Accused Killer<\/a> has been found. Youre seeing now police, the ford fusion is the car that police were looking for. It went out on the lines as the car they were hoping people would report if they saw it. He was in or near the ford fusion in erie, pennsylvania. Authorities will be speaking very shortly in the next five or six minutes. We will hear from authorities about his death, the man sought in the facebook killer. Near areay, pennsylvania. Not sure if it is in or near erie, but somewhere around there is what were looking at congra they told the observers to talk to the hand. Steven cook is joining me now what is your read on this referendum and the power its gives erdogan. As you said, it is a referendum that gives him sweeping new spours. He will enjoy powers that no Turkish Leader<\/a> has enjoyed since the end of the ottoman empire. This is a turkey that until a few years ago was going in a different direction. Part of that is Europe Igalled<\/a> it was not all that interested in getting turkey into the european union. Yeah, they invited them to begin members, but shortly there after, they shut down negotiations and they have been in limbo ever since. The turks turned inward and decided to work on their own project, and president erdogan wants to change it in a\rprosperous steve, stay right there, we want to just go back to jacob rascon in cleveland. Were in cleveland and authorities are planning a Press Conference<\/a> in a few minutes but we already nose because Pennsylvania State<\/a> police told us that Steve Stephens<\/a>, the alleged facebook killer is dead. It happened after a short Police Pursue<\/a> in erie, pennsylvania. He shot and killed himself, were told. Less than two hours from cleveland. We know that on sunday, ether sunday, he killed a man at random in broad daylight, and then posted a video of the crime to facebook. It turned into a nationwi nationwidnationwide man\rhunt. Now we know, and this just happened, that Pennsylvania State<\/a> lis were pursuing a White Ford Fusion<\/a>, and then he shot and killed himself. That is the Breaking News<\/a>. As you said, at noon eastern time police will be holding a Press Conference<\/a> out of the city hall. They will be updating us on more investigation, based on what you said, that his body has been found. Do we know, jacob, whether or not he confronted police or if they found his body dead already . What we have been told is there was a Police Pursuit<\/a>, and that he shot and killed himself at some point during or after his pursuit. We dont know anything further but we expect to find out. All right, we will continue to follow this story. The Press Conference<\/a> will start very shortly. Steve stephens is dead in erie, pennsylvania. Thats it for us, well go to andrhe news. Good day, im andrea mitchell. The man hunt for Steve Stephens<\/a> is over. He recorded the murder of Robert Godwin<\/a> and then posted it on social media. He shot and killed himself after a Police Pursuit<\/a> in erie, pennsylvania. Joining me live now is jacob rascon in cleveland with the latest. 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