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MSNBCW MSNBC Live May 22, 2017

Trump, it was deeply meaning tofl visit the holiest site of her faithful heres some of what we heard from President Trump. I have come to this sacred and ancient land to reaffirm the unbreakable bond between the United States and the state of israel. You mark the defeating of isis as one of your top missions. The United States and israel can declare with one voice that iran must never be allowed to possess a nuclear weapon. Never, ever. This includes a renewed effort at peace between the israelis and the palestinians, and i thank the Prime Minister for his commitment to pursuing the peace process. He is working very hard at it. It is not easy. I have heard it is one of the toughest deals of all. But i have a feeling that were going to get there eventually. Hes heard it is one of the toughest deals of all. Meanwhile the dark cloud of the russia investigation. Today we learned that Michael Flynn is planning to invoke his fifth amendment right in response to a subpoena from the Senate Intelligence community. We should note it is expected to say he is invoking his rights not to incriminate himself and that is not an admission of guilt. Earlier we heard from President Trump about the meeting we had russian officials the day of a he fired james comey. The president said, he never mentioned the word israel as the source of the classified intelligence about isis during meeting. We heard from netanyahu about the status of intel sharing between the u. S. And israel. Just so you understand, i never mentioned the word or the name israel. 97 mentioned it. So you had to know story. Never mentioned the word israel. Important to note that h. R. Mcmaster said the president didnt even know the source of the information. There hasnt been any reporting that he mentioned israel. It was information, the intelligence that was glean that had he mentioned to the russians. I want to bring in Kelly Odonnell who is following latest. A very busy day for the president in jerusalem. Give us the highlights. Reporter well, right now there is a celebratory display in the air, fireworks. So if you hear crackling and banging behind me, it feels like the fourth of july here in jerusalem with an extended display of fireworks. Today for President Trump, this is a wait for him to try to continue showing himself on a global stage. Something that is brand new to his presidency with high snakes high ambitions about what he might be able to accomplish with partners in the middle east. From sunni countries like saudi arabia from which he just came. Here in israel with his long time friend Benjamin Netanyahu, and tomorrow with Mahmoud Abbas who will be meeting with President Trump, trying to find a way for them to sort of restart conversations trying to bring about peace. The Trump Administration has been on the outer rim of all of this. Trying to find ways to sort of challenge how things are done, to build on relationship and friendship and putting aside the most thorny matters, in order to get people at the table and to again relating. Theyve set out ambitious goals. That means there is high potential for failure on this. At the same time, the president is finding some sort and some unity between stops one and two because hes been talking about randle in particularly harsh tones. Something both saudi arabia and israel were happy to hear. Heres the president. Very grateful to the United States, because iran negotiated a fantastic deal with the previous administration. We also gave them an ability to continue with all the things theyve been doing. Reporter so the president who had said he would tear up that deal has not yet done so. But he is certainly stoking some of the concern thats israel has about iran and taking the side of israel. Also in the sunni part of the world, meeting with leaders from the arab conference, the muslim conference of leaders. Also striking that same note again shia dominant iran. And one context of Benjamin Netanyahus context was an implicit criticism of president obama who had tried to forge that relationship with iran to stifle their ability to have nuclear weapons. So there are many layers to what is nap. Theres history in this trip, certainly consequential foreign matters and religious overtones as the president is trying to be a part of three great World Religions with these stops in the home of judaism, and going to rome to meet the pope. It has been eventful. The president has largely stuck on script with the exception of. One moment where he was talking about never having spoken to israel with respect to intelligence matters. All right. Youve set up our discussion very well. Thank you for that. I want to bring in nbc news bill neely. He is the former israeli consul general based in new york. Thank you for being here. Trump has much to the delight of the sunni arab leaders and Benjamin Netanyahu effectively conflatd islamic terrorism in iran in a way that is a common enemy against whom the u. S. , israel and the arabs can unite. It might be effective but a gross oversimplification of whats going on in the middle east and it gives sunni arab gulf states a pass in the role that theyve played in the growth of terrorism. Yes. I think his comments will have delighted Benjamin Netanyahu and made those remarks on iran. Im surprised by the vociferousness of the roorks ir, on the remarks of iran. It started in saudi arabia. Ironically, saudi arabia, a country with no history of elections, President Trump criticized iran the day after iran held a president ial election in which you know, tens of millions of people, including women, voted. I was struck. I was inside arabia yesterday and i was instruction that the United States president was in the city talking about terrorist combination in the city of riyadh where Osama Bin Laden was born. He was in the country from where 11 of the 19 9 11hijackers came. Donald trump a new yorker. So there are ironies there. Saudi arabia with a questionable human rights record, involved in a dirty war with yemen. And yet he is ticking off iran so much and also lumping as the United States does, hamas into the iranian backed groups at a time when he is trying to entice palestinians, possibly including hamas supporters, into some kind of peace talks with israel. As you said at the beginning, it is convenient at the moment. It is a common enemy for saudi arabia and israel and it suits the first three days of this trip very well endeed. Stand by. Good to see you. I spoke with your successor, and we were discussing this whole issue of iran versus sunni extremism as it relates to israel. Israel has a problem. It has annapolhamas. It is not one big warm hug for israel. I think it is a big mistakes for israeli Prime Ministers and american president s to try to settle the account between shias and sunnis. It is a long fight and it wont work. If you connect the dots, hamas, and the islamic jihad, and al qaeda and isis are all sunni. Yet at the same time, iran with which israel used to have 30 years ago, 40 years ago, an aalliance of sorts. Iran is shiite. So were in a vortex right here. But to choose sides as Prime Minister netanyahu is trying, and i think this is a major flaw in his understanding of the region to. Draw an israel stwanands with t modern coalition with the shiites. New york times Michael Schmidt is joining us as well. To have you here. President trump just said in a clip, that the word israel was never mentioned. Your reporting is different. In your reporting, did President Trump mention to the russians that it was intelligence gleaned from israel . Or just intelligence that they could figure out . As he said, he never used the word israel. So it is a bit of a straw man. What was an issue was intelligence from the israel business the russians could figure it out came from them. This was stuff that related to an isis plot. The israelis had given us this information under certain terms. And there was only so much we could do with this information. The white house would say the president didnt know where it came from and he didnt really know what he was doing with it. Let me and you about that. Is there much of a kerfuffle about this in israel as there is here . Yes. In fact there were two former heads of mossad who said we should rethink this. I dont think that will happen. Because for that matter, the mi 6, are going to share information despite or in spite of what a respective leaders say. However, it was a big deal. I dont know that is the source was israeli or partially israeli. You make an interesting point. Under president obama, the intelligence relationship with israel was not weakened one bit. What do you mean . It reached historical high points. The two men didnt seem to have a Good Relationship with each other. Benjamin netanyahu did not like that barack obama was making overtures to iran. To be fair to president obama, mr. Netanyahu had aired his differences in vitriolic way way before the iran deal was even negotiated. I think that president obama and to attest to that, you had the Prime Minister and the foreign president and Prime Minister who said israel never had a better friend, substantively speaking than barack obama. But israelis have a sense of wanting to be loved. And they felt they werent loved enough by barack obama. A fair statement. A measure of racism in there. But we dont have time dissect that. But with donald trump, within 120 days of his tenure as president , it shifted violently like a pend lum. I think theyre both wrong but nonetheless, he is revaluated, he is being reevaluated as the greatest friend we ever had. Im not sure he is. Good to talk to you. The former israeli consul general. Thank you to all of you. While he continues his foreign trim as president , trumps first budget plan will be sent to congress. An expansion of that skinny budget. Fun in art class. Come close, come close. I like that. [ music stops suddenly ] ah. When your pain reliever stops working, your whole day stops. Awww. Try this. For minor arthritis pain, only aleve can stop pain for up to 12 straight hours with just one pill. Thank you. Come on everybody. You cant quit, neither should your pain reliever. Stay all day strong with 12 hour aleve. Ready or not, here i come. Ek. anyone can dream. Making it a reality is the hard part. Northrop grumman command and control systems always let you see the complete picture. And were looking for a few dreamers to join us. Vice president mike pence expected to arrive on capitol hill in the next hour to meet with about a half dozen republican lawmakers about the budget and other issues. The president s first Budget Proposal will be released tomorrow. Axios and the Washington Post report the budget will be slashed by 1. 7 trillion in ten years. About 800 billion will come out of medicaid. We have a clue on that from the Health Care Bill that has been passed by the house, not the senate. And cuts programs to food stamps, thats snap, Childrens Health Insurance Programs and disability insurance. There are guns budgets and butter budgets. This is a guns budget. The house is billing it as a Taxpayer First budget. With these deep cuts, it may work in congress. Not likely to work as well in the senate. The talking points of getting republicans aspears to nothing less than replacing dependency with the dignity of work. An interesting phrase that has theological overtones historically. It also calls for able bodied americans. It cuts medicaid, the Health Care Program for the poorest americans to the tune of some 800 billion. And much of that was incorporated because it passed the house and still being worked in the senate. The republican Health Care Bill that has proven so controversial. So a lot of this is still being processed. They are political documents. They dont have any basis in reality that ends up being passed. Remember, congress doesnt usually get around to passing the resolution. Because congress is so divided. All the suggestions from the democrats. There are many republicans, particularly in the senate, who dont want to see medicaid slashed. So this is a political document, a notional document. It is far from being completed. And it is worth commenting. Budgets in the last five or six years have been almost impossible to get from point a to z. Most of the time they dont get there and they dont look like the first one. Right. And the they know you have to remember, the budget is a political document. It provides a framework that is a sign post from where the administration wants to go. It is up to congress to fill in the blanks. Usual little because the votes are so volatile and they dont want to leave them vulnerable to those kinds of votes. They dont get into passing the budget. The appropriations committees seem to want to do their work which they cant do either. And we get the bills cram wood is, crammed into tend of the session. Joining me, congressman meeks, thank you for being with us. On capitol hill the focus has been largely on the president s russia issues. But at town halls, health care is still the bigger concern. Listen with me. Im here because his health care is expensive. And we need on stand up for health care that matters. Medicaid matters. So again, what would happen if medicaid were cut for your family . We would be completely bankrupt. We would lose everything. Would it just be devastating to our family. Congressman, 800 billion to medicaid over ten years. How is this going over with your constituents . Not going well with my constituents at well. Nor should it be going well with trump constituents. Clearly it is just the opposite. This would be devastating to people from the north, the south, the east, and the west. The coastal cities, anybody who is middle class or poor. It is a statement but it shows a statement of where donald trump really stands. It doesnt stand with middle class and poor individuals. This is interesting. It is a conservative talking point here. The idea of putting in work requirements for certain parts of medicaid, for able bodied resr recipien recipients. It is a personal matter, a principle matter, not just economic. You see the principle, the reverse robben hood. When you look at the tax breaks he is giving, it is all to his cronies, to the top 1 . Everything youre looking at is at the expense of those who need it most. Yes. Youre right. It is the principle of taking away from the poor to give to the rich. Congressman, the Chicago Tribune is reporting that snap, the nutrition program, many people know it as food stamps. The swelled following the financial crisis as the Obama Administration eased policies to make it easier for people to qualify for benefits. We hit a high in 2013. But we were at about, we were in the mid 20 million number of people getting snap before the recession. Were now in the 40 million. Should there be reform to something that was an emergency were not in emergency times . Were still recovering. Weve done, and come a long way tunneled eight years of barack obama from a completely devastated, the worst, of course, will sense the great depression. Theres a lot to do. If you look at the income disparity in our country, it is still greater than ever and it is still growing. So annul of individuals, although they are working again, they are working two and three jobs so theres a lot of work to be done to make up on the income side. So you have to watch numbers on both sides of the ledger so we can make sure that were moving our country together. Economically were still recovering. And what the president is proposing now, i think, will bring that recovery to a halt. I want to switch over to the Flynn Investigation several developments today. Michael flynn is expected to notify the intelligence panel. He wont hand over documents. He is envoeking his fit amendment right. We remind everybody, invoking the fifth is not an admission of guilt. My reaction is, isnt that iron snik youre right in your statement but in the case of mr. Flynn who has stated in his mind, anybody that executed or offered the fifth amendment must be guilty of something. Thats his words. Not anyone elses. He didnt go by the letter of the law then. So it must mean theres something he is guilty about because now he is evoking the fifth amendment right. Based upon what he utilize ad few months ago during the campaign. So it is ironic that it is mr. Flynn now invoking the fifth had amendment as we get deep entire the russia investigation. I want to ask you about james comey. He is expected to speak with Jason Chaffetz today on the phone about comey likely or possibly testifying the week before, after memorial day. Chaffetz question, the memos even exist. Lets listen. Okay. We dont have that. What is your sense about Jason Chaffetz wondering about james comeys truthfulness . Well, listen, to me, just make sense. It doesnt add up. I agree with the ranking member, elijah cummings. It is important for anyone in the committees, hopefully an independent commission that will look at this to get any and all dpomts m documents that he has kept. Er the best way to find out whether he has them or not is to get him to subpoena them and have him produce them and have them that a public forum very soon so we can get to the bottom of the truth and the facts of what has taken place during this investigation. Good to talk to you. Thank you. For the first time in american history, a sitting president visits the wailing wall. Well dig deep into his visit and the importance o

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