Disaster. Lets start withological hillary. She went to wellesley college, her alma mater. One of the main topics she addressed were the major deficiencies in the proposed gop budget. It is an attack of unimaginable cruelty on the most vulnerable among us, the youngest, the oldest, and hard working people. And to top it off, it is shrouded in a trilliondollar mathematical lie. Lets call it what it is. It is a con. It matters because if our leaders lie about the problems we face, well never solve them. We were furious about the past president ial election. Of a man whose presidency would eventually end in disgrace with his impeachment for obstruction of justice. After firing the person running the investigation into him at the department of justice. As the history majors among you here today know all too well, when people in power invent their own facts and attack those who question them, it can mark the beginning of the end of a free society. You are graduating at a time when there is a full fledged assault on truth and reason. People denying science, concocting elaborate conspiracy theories about child abuse rings operating out of pizza parlors. Some are even denying things we see with our own eyes. Like the size of crowds. You may have heard that things didnt exactly go the way i planned. You know what . Im doing okay. One of the things that gave me the most hope and joy after the election when i really needed it was meeting so many young people who told me that my defeat had not defeated them. With us to discuss it, gop strategist rick wilson, and Foreign Editor allen murray. Thank you for being with us. Pete, let me start with you. There was a lot in that speech. Hillary clinton had been building up an arsenal, waiting for the moment in which to unleash it. A sensible moment for her. It is her alma mater, a place she came to the public eye so many years ago. Thats exactly right. Shes had 200 days since the election to think about this speech. It was pretty strikingly antitrump. It was aggressive even though she never used the president s name. You played the highlights. The things that struck me, not just referring to the budget as a con but calling the president and his administration here liars, saying what theyve been could not is in effect a lie. She talked about the fullfledged assault on the truth and those comparisons between president Trumps Administration and the disgraceful ending of the nixon administration. All of those things catching a lot of people, catching their attention today. Some eyebrow raising moments. I think it is what we now live is a 24hour news cycle but a nonstop Election Campaign cycle as well. Her political career certainly appears over. What was striking is how with what has been taking place in montana, we still live in an environment where there is a constant back and forth. No rest for the weary. No kidding. Not too much of a surprise that Hillary Clinton talks about donald trump. I was a little more surprised john boehner saying what he said about donald trump. Donald trump is getting it from both sides. What do you make of the criticisms . Well, john boehner has been liberated from the burden a lot of republicans suffer from, to defend the indefensible. So he is going to let it rip. No kidding. What does donald trump do about this . If youre donald trump and youre the gop, do you ignore it . Do you say boehner and Hillary Clinton are out of the public eye . Theyre on permanent vacation and it doesnt matter what they say . I guarantee you, donald trump will be obsessing about anyone who says anything negative about him. Hell be devising elaborate torture plans in his brain and elaborate cool tweets. He is doldtrump. A child if he is insulted on the play ground, he just obsesses. Weve been talking about the budget and Health Care Bill this week. You know where my mind goes. This is, you can take Bernie Sanders view and say it is an attack on the poor or Hillary Clintons view that it is an attack on the poor. From an Economic Business perspective, one of the criticism thats john bain her about this budget is that the math is wrong, the math is off. That it is disingenuous. Lets pull that apart. When Hillary Clinton says they took this benefit away, that benefit away, one of the problems the federal government has is once you give a benefit to somebody, it is very hard to take it back and people never think about the poor person who has to pay in tax dollars to provide the benefit. So im not going to head in that direction. But there is this basic math problem. Even if you believe that tax cuts can get Economic Growth to 3 . And i would say most economists think thats a stretch. Even if you believe that we can get to 3 annual growth with tax cuts. They counted that twice. They used it once to round the budget and again to round it on the tax cuts. It is a stretch to use it once. You cant use it twice. You have this issue. You have the Health Care Bill that came out with a cbo scorch you can trust or not trust but is hard to sell to people. To his point, whether you Like Health Care that goes toward universal health care or not, more people had it. Then you have this budget hard to square the math on. What are main stream republicans supposed to do . The republicans seemed to have picked the most unpalatable parts of obamacare and ramped it up by a thousand. No one wants this bill to pass including the senate. The American People look at it with great skepticism and they see a budget that comes out with the double counting math tricks and a variety of overly broad assumptions and super dynamic scoring that doesnt even fit in with conservative orthodoxy. It is a unicorn in every driveway kind of thing. You end one a sense on the hill that the trump budget is dead on arrival. Particularly that the Health Care Bill is dead on arrival. The tax plan that would accompany both those things and theyre contingent upon one another. So really republicans dont have a lot of takehomes because theyve hitched their wagon to donald trump. It is because weve gotten ourselves into this highly partisan right. If youre going to do big chains Like Health Care, they have to be down a bipartisan basis other. Wise well go back and forth and refight fight until we all die from preexisting conditions. In fairness, the democrats didnt do that with obamacare. They didnt do that. Ill going to get a million angry tweets in about a minute. It was totally partisan. Im agreeing with you. The democrats were entirely partisan about obamacare. You can like obamacare. You can think it was the right thing to do. The point is we have been this way for the last eight years. The bottom line is the pendulum has swung. They were trying to make sure that the number was sufficient that they wouldnt to have include democrats in what is described as reconciliation process. Basically one of the rules that exist here in washington that governs the way you go about it. They wanted to do it by themselves. Thats why there is a 13 member group. Exclusively republicans, notably exclusively republican men right now. The bottom line is the same way the democrats tried to hammer them to republicans in chronic trying to do the same. So what will happen is in the next election, youll have a whole new class of democrats who voted to resale and replace and resale and replace and the losers will be the American People. Like investigatia developing. Good to talk to you. Thank you. Great to see all of you. Up next, President Trumps soninlaw and Senior AdviserJared Kushner has come under fbi scrutiny in the russia investigation. Well ing you the full report and bring you the latest. 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As of today, Jared Kushner is now a part of russia investigation. Multiwill u. S. Officials tell nbc news kushner has come under fbi scrutiny. Another big name dragged into the investigation. He joins a long list of trump staffers with confirmed or reported connections to russia. People who donald trump has applauded in the past. Jared is a very successful real estated person but i think he likes politics more than real estate. And he is very good at politics. General flynn is a part of this investigation. This man has served for many years. He is a general. In my opinion, a very good person. Jeff sessions has been a federal prosecutor. The highest level and at the most respected level. A man of integrity, a man of principle and a man of total utter resolve. We have great people. And paul said some really positive, Great Success with reagan and with bush and with ford. Great success. He doesnt have to do this. He didnt need to do this but he wanted to. I want to acknowledge the great work being done by our secretary of state, rex tillerson, to strengthen the Nato Alliance as well as the secretarys trip to moscow to promote the security interests of the United States and its allies. He did a terrific job. Just watched parts of it. Did a terrific job. Okay. Here to help me break this down, my colleague pete williams. The correspondent for politico and Charlie Savage is the washington correspondent for the new york times. Thank you for being here. Lets start by explaining the latest Jared Kushner news. He is under fbi scrutiny. Thats different from being thought of as person of interest. Well, i dont know what person of interest means. I know this was somethinghat other people have thrown around but it doesnt have a legal meaning. I think the easiest way to think of this, the fbi wants to know who in the trump inner circle or campaign had any contact with the russians. It wants to know whether they had any connections to the russians. The best way to understand it is that at this point Jared Kushner is what you might call a fact witness. They want to talk with him. They know he had some meetings, especially after the election. They want to talk to him about those. And we dont believe the fbi has done so yet because his lawyer in response to questions about these developments said that he, kushner has always said that he is willing to share any information the congress wants, and if asked, would do the same with the fbi which suggests that he hasnt been asked. But we know the fbi wants to talk to him. The significance, as you pointed out is in, you mentioned other people that the fbi wants to talk to. That congress has already spe l subpoenaed, people already connected with the investigation. Manafort worked in the campaign. Flynn was in the campaign for a short time. Jared kushner by contrast is still in the white house and of course he is the president s soninlaw. So thats the way to think of this. When rumors first came out, people said, we knew it. There is a high level staffer in the white house. Part of russia investigation. Lets just step back. Give us a little context. What does it mean that Jared Kushner, to use petes words, is Something Like a fact witness . Well, we have this tease order this from the Washington Post last week where we had this report saying there was some high level official in the white house under scrutiny. A lot of the terms are very amorphous. But what makes kushner so different from a lot of those people that pete mentioned at the top of the segment, kushner is the only person still in the white house. Not the just in the white house but very close to that inner circle. He is in a position to not only know what happened during the campaign but during transition. To know what happened after Michael Flynn was fired. He is one of the best avenues for figuring out whats happening realtime. Before i started this, we saw donald trump talking about some of the people a few seconds ago. I want to look at the people this trumps circle who have either reported or confirmed connections to russia. Let us start with Jared Kushner. I can only do that if this thing lets me do it. Lets start with Jared Kushner. He is the senior white house adviser. He met with the Russian AmbassadorSergey Kislyak and sergey good morningov. Did he disgoals when asked during his confirmation hearings . He recused himself from the rush investigation under a lot of people. Michael flynn, as pete points out. The former National Security adviser. He dined with Vladimir Putin in december 2015. He also spoke with Sergey Kislyak. Youll see that name a lot. Paul manafort has had a long history with that. Carter page was a Trump Campaign aide, although no one seems to gave straight answer on it. Also something he didnt admit until much later. He has a long history of investing. And donald trump jr. , the president s oldest son, he helps manage the trump organization. He said in 2008 the russians make up a pretty disproportionate assets. And we have the secretary of state rex tillerson. He worked closely with Russian Oil Companies with exxonmobil. They had a deal start drilling in the north. That was cancelled because of sanctions and he did testify that he thought the sanctions were unnecessary. He was awarded the order of friendship from Vladimir Putin in 2013. Wilbur ross commerce secretary. He hds a stake in the bank of cypress which has very specific ties to russian investors. Seeing it all listed like this, what does it make you think . It makes me think it is a lot of circumstantial ties to another country that is very big and very powerful, and has not always been a great friend to the United States, and maybe it means something and maybe it means nothing. Were still at this point of confusion as far as we know, so is the investigation. There is a lot of, as john brennan said in his testimony this week, the former cia director. He had a lot of questions is that when he left office, those questions were not answered yet. And i think what they were saying about this revolution, this revelation, that the investigation looking at Jared Kushner, thats not a surprise and people should not be reading too much into that. He was in the campaign and still in the white house and had some contacts with foreign officials, including russians. It will not be at all, i would be surprised if it doesnt happen. The investigation will want to talk on President Trump. Because he was in that campaign and now in the white house and he may know something or may not know something. When they interview him, maybe it will be treated as extraordinary news. But it should not be treated as a surprise. It is under scrutiny now. Given had a charlie said, look into your crystal ball for a second. We know theres a special counsel on it. We know there are four different investigations going on. Some people would like this to happen on an accelerated time line. At this point, that might not haen it might not happen and it is arguably not how Something Like this is supposed to happen. It is very easy to look at a lot of these as smoke signals. People can see things you want to see. These complicated wide reaching investigations, were talking about a long span of time and a huge country with a lot of different moving parts. Its hard to read directly into and it frankly it should not be read directly into. Theyll talk to a lot of beam a lot of things and none of it necessarily means anything. This is your wheel house. The fact this is slowly moving out of the political realm into the judicial realm suggests that time lines may slow down. If the president thought he would make the russian thing go away by firing james comey, he will find he will get exactly the opposite effect. Now we have a will special counsel who has come into this, Robert Mueller. He has to firgt ogure out what s job . This is First Time SinceJohn D Danforth looked into the waco disaster. And he couldnt use the fbi because he was investigating the fbis role in waco. He eventually hired 74 people in his staff. Is bob mueller going to do the same thing . Rely on the fbi . Will his role be to do whatever Rob Rosenstein would have done if he had stayed . Or will it be a parallel investigation . I suspect Robert Mueller doesnt even know the answer to that. So having the special counsel will stretch it all out. Thanks for your analysis on this. Coming up, well bring you reaction