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After taking a quick tour in hawaii. And perfectly harbor and laid a wreath to u. S. Arizona. Hell meet with the president there. Most crucial Foreign Policy trip yet with a Nuclear North Korea posing the biggest threat. But as he travels across the globe, President Trump is bringing much of his own political baggage along for the ride. News of his Campaign Advisers and their alleged contacts with russia stealing much of the spotlight. And on that topic joining me now, we have former gulf war and msnbc analyst. Mike, lets start with this. The president on his trip right now. Hes going to be hitting several important stops as he speaks in china, in japan, in the beginning, the topic of north korea going to be at the top of that list. And starting in japan where he will land in just a few hours, after just taking off from air force base just outside honolulu, hawaii, of course the president getting briefing from u. S. Commanders upon his arrival in hawaii earlier on the security situation in the pacific. And perhaps fitting that japan is the first stop here. Hell be meeting with the Prime Minister shinzu abe. Remember when they met kim jongun north Korean Leader decided he was going to launch a missile over japanese territory. A very provocative action. And in fact many people are wondering whether north korea and kim jongun are going to do something similar while President Trump is in the region. Hell be meeting with japanese Prime Minister, the japanese on edge about the security situation. They have relied on the United States some 80 years after the end of world war ii for security. And in fact 30,000 u. S. Troops from japan. President trump will go to seoul afterthat a after that and talking about them. Where trade is issue. Observers look at the Economic Situation in the pacific rim and china is an accepted, United States losing steam, and canceling that had been by previous obama. So all on that and more. And we havent talked about the last of the trip in vietnam and philippines where the president has extra day. Well talk about Regional Security first, general. What do you believe this president , this administration will be pushing . What is the idea . What is the diplomatic core to this administration that hell be pushing with shinzu abe. One of your commentators last night talked about the failure of this administration was to have a north korea policy but not a china policy. I think when President Trump is there, the Central Security issue for the United States obviously is north Korean Nuclear weapons. We are being forced into a bien n binary decision. Will we accept the icbm to the United States in a few years . Or will we take measures to change the situation . Ive been involved in this for 15 some odd years. It hasnt worked. They are on the verge now of being a Major Nuclear threat. To what extent can President Trump bring together japan, south korea, and australia . How real is the threat here general and what are the words . Whats the language that President Trump needs to use with shinzu abe as well as president xi . I think the real key is again china. Their interests are hardly well served by the potential for a major war on the Korean Peninsula never one that may go nuclear. So the leverage they have over north korea potentially is overwhelming. If they close the border and if the russians close their smaller border, north korea would have to come to heel almost immediately. I dont believe the chinese are going to do that. So, again, we are back to the real question, the south koreans, the japanese in particular are not going to accept a preem tear war against north korea. So what is President Trump to do . What is the president to do . John park, as we watch the president make his way toward south korea, we are talking about a recent poll that said yes. Some 70 said they would like the United States to Deploy Tactical Nuclear Weapons on the ground there in defense of south korea. How does the president balance that desire to both be independent of the United States, yet still embrace this security pack that has been around since the Marshall Plan . Well, richard, this is a challenge of channelling the sentiments, why are the south koreans feeling this way. There is a sense that south korea needs more. But with this there is an opportunity for President Trump to channel that in terms of looking at the u. S. South Korean Alliance through the lens of greater alliance. But really the Decision Point is related to this point of denuclearizing north korea. This puts i think all the countries in the region on this path where you are going to look at efforts to redouble efforts on pressure tactics, but the fact is north korea is a Regional Nuclear weapon state. So we have to revisit what we can expect out of these at this stage. Part of the messaging here, the president as he stops by in china, bringing up economic issues. Certainly lauding the Unemployment Rate that came out this week at 4. 1 . This as he addresses who are his veteraners, trump voters across the country that have said our jobs are going to asia. China has been often the target of this criticism. How is President Trump going to balance the needs of his base voters as well as other americans, and what china is doing . And you are absolutely right. We talked a little bit about the Trans Pacific partnership. And china was not involved in that at all. It was a coalition brought together by the United States, and pacific rim nations, that was promptly disbanded or abandoned by President Trump fulfilling the campaign promise. And of course if we can identify a trump doctrine in Foreign Policy at this point, and i think its sort of nebulous at this point, it is america first. And he was elected with the express intent of getting away from the globalization to use an often misused term to getting away from International Trade agreements, which his bases as you point out, richard, puts the blame squarely from their economic disenfranchisement, this is the president s base and its going to be a very delicate dance while the president is in beijing and onto a larger conference in vietnam. As we put that together, general, there is not only the economic story line, will is the issue of drugs and opioids which you understand so welcoming out of china. Then as you try to push this leerd sh leadership in china to support u. S. Doctrine to north korea, how does the president put this all together . Its a complex burrito, shall we say . Yeah. Certainly the drug issue ought to be relatively straightforward matter for the chinese to address. They are obviously against drug addiction. Much of the fentanyl that is killing americans is being manufactured in china and coming through u. S. Postal service or fedex or whatever. 64,000 americans dead last year. This is a national disaster. So i think he will address that. And probably get chinese positive response. We have to remind ourselves, also, richard, that Chinese Armed forces have been aggressively pushing out into the South China Sea claiming it as national territory. This is a major problem that will have to be confronted by the regional allies. President , a murder us thug, i might add, is unlikely to be helpful on this discussion. John, 30 seconds to you. This region a powder keg . It is. We are at an inflection point. I know different estimates when this north korea can get the icbm nuclear capability. But as we saw before the trip, the statement we are running out of time. And thats will be the big focus how President Trump will engage with the regional leaders in how to deal with the north korea issue. Okay. Thank you so much at the white house all three of you. Great conversation. Thank you. Okay. Summer of 2016 and russia investigation. Former Campaign Adviser carter page admitting to meeting a russia official in 2016. And hes not the only one. George papadopoulos who pled guilty and also met with russians. What they could all mean for Robert Muellers investigation. Thankfully, the breakthrough in prevagen helps your brain and actually improves memory. The secret is an ingredient originally discovered. In jellyfish. In clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve shortterm memory. Prevagen. The name to remember. Psoriatic arthritis tries to get in my way . Watch me. Ive tried lots of things for my joint pain. Now . Watch me. Think id give up showing these guys how its done . Please. Real people with active Psoriatic Arthritis are changing the way they fight it. Theyre moving forward with cosentyx®. Its a different kind of targeted biologic. 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Although he has tried to say not a formal meeting. New york times has said he sent an email to at least one Trump Campaign aid describing in sites he had after conversations with government officials and Business Executives during his time in moscow. Meanwhile President Trump seems to be doing what he can at the moment to distance himself from the investigation. Well, i hope hes treating everything fairly. And if he is, im going to be very happy. Because whether yn you talk abo innocent, i am truly not involved in any form of collusion with russia, believe me, thats the last thing i can think of to be involved in. Have you been told to expect to be questioned by the special counsel . No. Are you prepared for that . No, nobody has told me. As far as im concerned im not under investigation. Hes not under investigation. Lets bring in former federal prosecutor. Eliza collins, jonathan allen, coauthor of the book shattered. So we have nothing to talk about . Nothing at all. Meeting formal or not formal, legally does it matter . Well, it doesnt it really doesnt matter whether the meeting is formal or not. I suspect that mr. Page is trying to draw these distinctions bau distinctions because the attorney general Jeff Sessions did make distinction between meetings. And some of his statements might be false if mr. Page did in fact have the meeting with the deputy Prime Minister. Ill say carter page has been on television quite a bit, including on this network. And somebody probably should tell him at some point he has the right to remain silent. I dont think hes doing himself any favors. And, frankly, neither is the president sometimes with his comments as well, like the one we just heard. Very good point. In fact, well play part of what he did say with jake tapper on cnn. You say you only met with academics essentially when you were on your trip to russia. A few Business People i had known for over a decade, yeah. Lets answer his question, if we can. Why is carter page still talking . You know, i cannot answer that. I dont know if anybody but carter page can answer that. There could be like i dont know if he knows. Right. He could be trying to get out in the story explain his piece and say, look, i put it all out there and being honest. I would imagine if you are carter page lawyer you dont think its a good idea to offer more information on television. In that same cnn interview he confirmed that Jeff Sessions did know he was going to russia. So while we dont know what the meetings were formal or informal, Jeff Sessions was in fact aware he was traveling. And representative quigley great representative he had with alex witt also remarked on carter page and i want you to take a listen to this. This is the mossy va certificate, bizarre witness i have ever had, i guess the displeasure of coming across. Well, jonathan allen, what did we learn from what carter page said and is saying, that hes in legal trouble . That he just wants to be heard . That there are more details related specifically to who he did tell that he met in moscow . Well, what congressman quigley said is very consistent with what other members of that Intelligence Committee have said after spending time with carter page. That im going to try to use polite language on television but basically they believe hes an unreliable narrator, at best, of whats going on. So that makes things a little more difficult in terms of trying to figure out what it is that hes saying thats true. And perhaps if there are, as mr. Quigley put it, evasions going on, what those are. They did seem to think they got valuable information from him. In terms of what hes doing on television and the damage he may be doing to him self, his behavior apparently behind closed doors is pretty consistent with that that we see in public, which is to say that there does not appear to it be a lot of strategy behind it. And talking about Trump Campaign and the trump camp and representatives there of, when we look at papadopoulos and his role and his testimony, nbc news reporting this, that papadopoulos repeatedly represented the Trump Campaign, the records showing that from this great article from lee and caldwell and frank thorpe. If or if he did not based on this reporting did represent the trump camp and the president saying no very low level, what does this mean to the case Going Forward . Wow, well, you know if we look at the charging document that mr. Mueller and his team filed, there are many many emails referenced in that document in which mr. Papadopoulos was communicating with people who are referred to as supervisors. And i know one of them has been identified by nbc news as sam clovis, who was cochair of the Trump Campaign, recently nominated, and i think has withdrawn his nomination for very high level post in the trump administration. So what i think we are going to see in the months ahead is the mueller team focusing in on individuals who communicated with papadopoulos to try to work their way up the ladder. Thats really what federal prosecutors do. You build a case on one guy like papadopoulos now they flipped him, hes on the governments team, and then papadopoulos will be testifying against his former friends and colleagues who he was in communication with and giving mueller an understanding of what they did and what they said. And who knows how high that could go. How high and how far back . Right . As he is knit kag here. Because when he was flipped, when was he flipped, who did you speak to during that time span during the time we found out he was flipped and today. What more might we hear about papadopoulos . I think there is so much more we can hear. I mean, the announcement that papadopoulos was cooperating with the fbi came at the same time that manafort and gates were indicted. And so i think the message was very clear, you know, you can go and be charged and go through court, or you can cooperate with us. And here we have someone cooperating with us. So the message was clear to anybody on those email chains that, you know, we dont know how far back it went, but if you were talking to papadopoulos he is talking to us. Lan getting a lot of info. Jonathan allen youll return as well as you a lie shah. I appreciate all prethree of yo after unsealed this week documents contradicted statements he previously given to congress. And the case against Harvey Weinstein new york Officials Say they are building a case that could lead to an arrest. Welcome hows it going . Hi okay, so youve got two friends here. Yes. This is the j. D. Power award for dependability. Now i want you to give it to the friend that you think is most dependable. Ohhhh. Ughh. Wow. Thats just not fair. Does she have to . She doesnt have to oh, i dont . No, but its a tough choice, isnt it . Yes. 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