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MSNBCW MSNBC Live January 20, 2018 22:00:00

I want to start with garrett haake, you are in the center of the action. Weve been hearing from lawmakers. To my ears, i dont hear any break in this gridlock. Whats your take at this hour . Reporter yeah, you with choose your own news here at this point, depending on who youre talking to. Im outside a meeting thats been going on Susan Collins office and the democrats coming out have said no comment, on made vague comments like theres been progress. Lindsey gram just left. Hes been probably the sagelemost key negotiator. He sees some of the dynamics as potential something to be optimistic about, specifically this idea that the senate would be able to move forward sometime optimism their close to turning a corner. The work will continue at least until tomorrow. Just to drill down on the point you make, they are considering essentially the deal that seems to be gaining the most team is this shortterm threeweek deal. So the question is why would democrats go for this deal when they Wouldnt Go For The One that was on the table at the end of the week . Reporter that is exactly the question. Because it is the same piece of legislation, except instead of going four weeks, it goes to three. The argument is that democrats might like this deal, because it puts more pressure on the white house, it potential creates momentum that might not otherwise exist to strike a deal in the next three weeks on something that everyone agrees is a priority, dealing with these daca kids. Now, the question about what democrats are willing to accept is a good one. The white house has trying to cast this as were giving up a concession this week, and so far the democrats arent biting. Garrett, i know its been a marathon 24, going on 48 hours for you. Thank you, my friend. And a marathon for you, jeff, as well. Set the scene at the white house. What is the mood there right now based on your reporting. Is there any optimism that this gets done today . No on the m. I can tell you President Trump has been on the phone all day, a spokesperson tells us, the white house in the last hour has called a lid, which means we dont expect to see him the rest of the day. That doesnt preclude him from tweeting, and we already saw some of the tweets he sent out today. Lets talk about the political messaging. Its fairly remarkable. On the one handle democrats are saying republicans are pitting children against childrens, means children who benefit from c. H. I. P. , and then the children benefiting from daca and then alose its not clear which side wins the political argument, but on a substantive level you have democrats saying they arent willing to renegotiate reopening the document until republicans come to the take and talk about immigration, and not clear at this point how or who breaks this impasse, kristin. It seems like both sides are increasingly dug in within shut down now 17 hours and counting. Jeff bennett, thank you. Marc short said today there would be no negotiations on daca until the government is funded. Take a listen. We will not negotiate the status of 690,000 unlawful immigrants while hundreds of millions of taxpaying americas, including hundreds of thousands of our troops in uniform and Border Agents protecting our country are held hostage by senate democrats. Joining me now is diane black of tennessee, member and former chairman of the house budget committee. Thank you for joining me. Thank you for having me it seems like discussions around this threeweek shortterm measure, just so we get you on the record, would you support a threeweek deal . I would. I supported the fourweek deal, which, by the way is the same except for one weeks difference, which i am very baffled about how the democrats in the senate can continue to act like an dulled child complain care center. When its the same provisions they have agreed with the provisions that are in the particular document. Listen, there were conversations going on and things looked like they were moving forward. Why in the world he decided to that until we have march to take care of these issues when our military, people who given their lives are being affected. Congresswoman, the answer to that if you are a democrat, they would argue is because this is their best chance to get a deal, and they say, look, its the trump administration thats ending daca in the first play that created this situation. Do they nod have a point there, that its President Trump who is severalally taking daca away and creating the situation that needs to be dealt with . Lets take this back. As i always do as a nurse, i take it back to the root cause. We know what president obama did was not under his jurisdiction, its under the house and senate as justice. Its the legislature that makes that decision. We have until the first week in march to make that decision, to actually put out there some legislation. Frankly there were very good conversations occurring, so for them to do what theyre doing, i want to ask them, do they have a son . A daughter . A husband . A wife in arms way . And to feel good theyre not being paid . Ive been in that situation. I have a Nephew Fighting for our country. Can we not say this is utmost important that we take care of our people, our Men And Women In Harms Way . Congresscom woman, the fact remains that the republicans have control of the white house, the house and the senate, so how does your party not bear responsibility for this shutdown . I only wish we had control of the senate. Because of the 60shoat cloture rule, we have the majority, but we dont have control. I want to i take your point. We dont necessarily have control. This is a president who ran on the platform of saying i am a deal maker. He wrote the art of the deal. In this instance he wantent to close the deal in time. And whose timeline is on on . Should he not be meeting with lawmakers . The government is shut down and we just got a lid on the white house. Should he not be calling to figure this out . I want to say whose timeline is that . It was schumers timeline and its his shutdown that has done there. There were negotiations and opportunities to have talk. You ought saw that. It was schumer going over to the white house. We dont know what the honest true was, but its month that are just schumer and the president did what schumer has done is to put our american men annilwomen in peril, as well as our children. Look, im a nurse, i want to make sure the children are taken care of. We have time to do what needs to be done. We have over a month to do that. Congresswoman, very quickly, because were running out of time, based on your conversationses there on capitol hill, do you think this gets resolved by monday . It it doesnt seem like the government will hope today. I sure the heck hope so. I care about children and i care about our military. Congresswoman diane black, thank you for your time on a very busy saturday. You are very welcome. Thank you for have you my. Time mag Psi Jane Knuten small and congressional reporter for the hill molly hooper, thank you both for being here. Is it seems like both sides are just digging in. I was struck but how different it fell. There was so much blame off the bat. Both sides werent speaking, and it took almost a week for the women of the senate to come together and say, hey, this is not cool, we need to talk to each other. So at least people are talking to each other this time around. Thats a great point. That said, theyre rapidly heading toward that same situation, where things are getting so bad between Mitch Mcconnell and Chuck Schumer, theyre not speaking to each other and digging in and starting to blame. When you get the blame game going and the finger pointing going, you devolve into that situation where if they stop talking completely, well be in for weeks. Were just going to camp out here. Molly, let me have you pick up on that point. Really its an erosion of truth. But what are we are making a deal on . Thats what i hear lawmakers say to me. If he tells us what he wants, if he gives us a direction and he says take the hill, well take the hill. Right now they dont know where to go. When you have schumer coming back, and the is that says let me talk to you guides. And even mcconnell said that. Yes, and its very striking. This is bigger than just daca even nancy pelosi said that today. One keep democratic med says even if we had a deal with daca, we wouldnt be able to fund the budget. Even if we have this deal, it doesnt mean we can fund the government for the rest of the next two years, and thats the key. If we get to four weeks from now, what happens then . They dont have the numbers yet. Until they go ahead a deal, they cant go anywhere. Jay. I think it comes down to personal relationship. You saw in the last session harry reid and Mitch Mcconnell, they really hated each other and one thing theye they had in common is they both loved the nationals, they both loved baseball. The first thing they would talk about, did you catch the game . When you had Chuck Schumer to come in, there was this hope that they could reset relations, and thats rapidly devolved. I hear those relations are almost worse off now than the relationship between mcconnell and reid. Thats such a critical part of it. You raised the shutdown of 2013, and an interesting lesson came out of that. The republicans got the blame, yet they went on to big victories. Could we see the same thing . Or are democrats risking potential victories . Its certainly a gamble right now. Of how this will play out, particularly in swing states. There are 23 sort of vulnerable seats that are up in the next election. They have to defend those seats in states where immigration is not popular. Very quickly, last word. You have 30 who arent running for reelection. Depending on how it works out whether immigration is taken care of in the next few weeks, you never know. Thank you for watching this with me. Theres a brought to break down. More coverage ahead. But first the other major story today, a live record on the ground, as marches continue out west. Well be right back. Ur years. You named it brad. You loved brad. And then you totaled him. You two had been through everything together. Two boyfriends, three jobs. Youre like nothing can replace brad. Then Liberty Mutual calls. And you break into your happy dance. If you sign up for better car replacement™, well pay for a car thats a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. Liberty stands with you™. Liberty mutual insurance. With expedia, you can book a flight, then add a hotel, and save. Everything you need to go. Expedia well come back, everyone, a wave of activism sweeping across the nation. Marchers have gathered in cities all around the country. President trump tweeted this message out. Get out there now to celebrate the historic milestones and unprecedented economic success and welt contrary that has taken place over the last 12 months. Blayne alexander is here in washington, and gina kim joins us from los angeles. Blayne, set the scene. What are the marchers telling you . Obviously President Trump trying to reach out to some of the folks who gathered today. Any reaction to that there . Reporter youre seeing the message to President Trump, the message theyve been trying to leave. In fact the march itself for the most part have dissipate d wev been seeing one by one people leaving their signs in lafayette park. This is right across the street from the white house. People saying they wanted their message tore heard, but also after they left. We wanted to talk about the message, trying to talk to President Trump protesting his policies, but theyre also looking back at some of the major things that happened the last year, the me too movement, talking about equal pay, equality in the workplace. We also heard a lot of conversations about immigration. That is one thing we heard. People trying to make their choice is heard, and namely a lot of people were talking about the shut down. Todays really was a call for women, saying its not important to vote you but position in positions of power. It shows just how many people are focused on that today. And gina, you are out and youve been out all day with folks in last. Why did they want to come out and march today . One year after President Trumps inauguration . Reporter the reasons are very similar to what blayne just mentioned, anything from women wanting to be together with likeminded people, and changing the ware of the election coming up, and right now the woman speaking on the stage is michael jacksons daughter parents. She was rockses just a mobs ago who was dancing with ted danson. The alisters have been up there. Just talking about their experiences, trying to empower all the people out here, saying what happened if what happened in our industry can happen with us, it can also happen with you. They got great response to that, because there are just so many issues, and one thats been in the forefront has been about transgender and bigender routes. I didnt know until i met Mj Difranco What Bigender was, and youve been educating people out here. Thats why you felt compelled to country down from francis today. Educate us. I am bigender. For many years i knew there was Something Different about it me. I knew i Wasnt The Transgender that most understand, because i didnt fully identify as male or female. I didnt have the terminology for it. For so many years i stayed in the closet. I was afraid of identifying myself wrong. So bigender is when you identify as two genders. I identify as male and female. Reporter and youve been getting great response. Its been great. As i experienced last years a bit of transfob use which is unfortunate, but thats why i want to be out here, to educate people. With information come power, and the ability to accept different people and different things. Reporter ive learned a lot from you today. Mj is just one of hundreds, if not thousands of bigender and transgender men and women out here. Another huge group says i am a d. R. E. A. M. Er, my rely it was are d. R. E. A. M. Ers, thats the voices we have been hearing. What a diverse crowd. Thank you so much. Great work, laidiers. Next, what will it take to strike a deal . And how much this stalemate is costing americans . Thats when we come right back. Mom, i have to tell you something. Dad, one second i was driving and then the next. They just didnt stop and then. Im really sorry. I wrecked the subaru. I wrecked it. Youre ok. Thats all that matters. vo a lifetime commitment to getting them home safely. Love. Its what makes a subaru, a subaru. End this shutdown. Use the authority you are asking for under this rule to bring to the floor the items on which we agree. Mr. Speaker, you said you would do that take on the tough issues. I admired that statement. I will tell my friend the speaker of the house i will admire even more the performance. Speaker ryan said we will not duck the tough issues, we will not kick the can down the road, we will lead, we will not blame others. Below speaker, i ask you to do just that. Stop ignoring the responsibility as the Majority Party to keep the government open and serving the American People. Now, mr. Speaker, i asked unanimous consent to bring up hr4872, the end the shutdown act of 2018, a continuing resolution through tuesday that would immediately reopen the government while negotiations continue on a Budget Agreement that adhere to parity, reauthorizing the Childrens Health Insurance Program and other Critical Health care programs, addressing the issue of d. R. E. A. M. Ers as requested by the president of the United States and providing assistance to citizens impacted by natural disasters. As the Minority Whip must surely know, the time dedicated is for Debate Purposes only. Thats steny hoyer, who you were listening to, calling on the House Speaker to end this shutdown and to stop kicking the can down the road, something that former congressman paul ryan said several years ago. Lets bring in french hill of arkansas. Thank you for joining muss. Sure, kristin. Thank you. Let me ask you respond to your colleague steny hoyer, who says its up to the republicans, the party who has control, to reopen the government. Does he have a point . First, thanks for having me. I have Great Respect for steny hoyer, hes an outstanding leader of the minority. We passed all 12 Appropriations Bill and a fourweek straightline that leader hoyer spoke about. The house has done its work. What we are waiting on now is leader mcconnell and minority leader schumer to reach agreement, so we have time to work on a dealing on our d. R. E. A. M. Ers. We just heard steny hoyer with a way out, pass a cr for four days. We have passed a resolution. Now youre in gridlock. Were nod in gridlock. The senate was debating going to february 8th. We expect to hear from the senate what date is acceptable, and if its shorter, i would consider that. The issue is we need the senate to help us, the house having done our work, also operate in good faith. Congressman, let me ask you about the president s leadership on all of this. We didnt hear from him today, with the exception of twitter. We know he had phone calls. But he didnt have any meetings at the white house. Has he shown the type of leadership you would expect him to . That was his big argument of the president , to get a deal done. Right. Well, i think he has democrat stralted leadership, in how to get ngo not only a continues resolution, but get an appropriate equitiability solution. Sectly, i do appreciate him directing the omb and Director Mull Investigate Join to make this shutdown as easy as possible on or constituents. Congressman were you surpriseds to no meetings at the white house today . I think what you have seen today is it to meet the programs. I think hes given them the big picture. Its the oneyear anniversary of the inauguration and according to the policy, the majority and 38 when asked, said whic

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