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They come in to the United States illegally they are getting out, they are going to be brought out. It serves as a very good deterrent. If people come in to our country illegally they are going out. Child Welfare Service are grappling with children separated from their parents. I. C. E. Officials say they did not notify Child Protective Services because it might have tipped off the immigrants of their plans. New reporting from the Washington Post that a Construction Company with the Trump Organization has relied on undocumented immigrants for nearly two decades. Joining us now is White House Reporter for axios and chief washington correspondent for bloomberg news. Good morning, guys. Good morning. I want to ask you about the timing of the raids. Was there any consideration to at least postpone these arrests especially coming at a time when the country is clearly reeling from the Mass Shootings in el paso and dayton . The problem with the raids and the timing of it, last time there were these planned raids and they leaked. A lot of fire on the dhs secretary, acting dhs secretary. This time around, yes the timing of this, especially after these Mass Shootings and especially with one of them occurring in el paso where a lot of people who were targeted and the suspect said that he had targeted mexicans who had posted this manifesto online, the timing of it really is not playing well for this administration, so it has been, i think, a bit of an issue politically. With the timing of this. But, again, i think that these raids, they try not to give any sort of lead up to it and show any sort of public reaction to this ahead of it. In the meantime, kevin the president said these i. C. E. Raids serve as a deterrent in his words. Its clearly an established policy. But what about the president speaking so openly about it . Is that part of the plan . Yes. Look from a policy standpoint i spoke all week with Administration Officials including officials at the department of homeland security. Yesterday i interviewed Ken Cuccinelli who is overseeing a large part of these raids and what they argue is that they are trying to follow the law. That they are trying to carry out the law. The second point i would make here i pressed cuccinelli, i said what about these images that were seeing of kids, of children who are being separated from their parents. You know what he told me . He said well, quoteunquote were all uncomfortable with those images but i think that its difficult to talk about this issue through the political lens. But you cant look at these policies in a vacuum and youre seeing how virtually every single democratic president ial candidate this week is taking this out on the campaign trail and saying essentially that they would reverse course on these particular sets of policies. But the question becomes well what do you do in the meantime in term of the month of september, for example, when lawmakers return from recess and i just dont see it. I dont see any type of bipartisan Immigration Reform getting done in the short term. Elena how does this new report from the Washington Post about a Construction Company that worked for the Trump Organization using undocumented workers, how does this form how President Trump plans his strategy postrecess . I have to give it to dave. His incredible reporting consistently on this issue. I would argue that honest lew it doesnt form these policies. If anything the administration after these, you can ask the white house how is this lining up with the policies that this president is implementing and there really is no connect that the president , whats going on in his personal life or businesses especially over the past several years is not affecting his policy. Hes still just as hard on immigration as he expects to deliver on his promises that he had. His rhetoric is strong as ever in 2016 and continues to be ahead of 2020 in the Campaign Season as a winning issue. Hell try to crack down hard on immigration. Again, the timing of this with those Mass Shootings isnt the best but speaking the to kevins point they see this as helping the American People, serving as a deterrent, and i dont think that this report is really going to change anything from a policy perspective. But the optics of all of it is terrible. Pulling off this i. C. E. Raid a week after you had that guy that was killing mexicans, targeting mexicans. Lets talk about the gun be debate right now. President trump on friday said that he has influenced, rallied republicans around stronger background checks but the president promised to lead on tougher gun control measures before as we all know. Your guys hearing any sort of indication that this will go anywhere or is this just kind of hell go on vacation for two weeks and disappear as it has many times before. Not just on President Trump but theres pressure on senator leader Mitch Mcconnell. Telling a local kentucky Radio Program he is, in fact, going to put bipartisan gun reform legislation on the agenda the top of beyond when lawmakers return back from congressional recess. There are some areas of consensus that have emerged. One is on red flag laws, grant money provide to some states in order to encourage them to pass policies that would limit the ability of folks who suffer from severe Mental Illness or who have previous cases of showing signs of violence to obtain a weapon. The second is on information sharing and former sharing between the public and the privatesector. In this case social media companies. To work with federal Law Enforcement to flag potential acts of crimes on social media platforms. Big tech officials were at the white house yesterday meeting about this. Third and finally, is on the issue pertaining to universal background chegs. There are some differences regarding universal background checks. Some areas of consensus are starting to emerge. Theres a question of where the nra stands on everything. According to the Washington Post a white house official said trump asked some advisors and lawmakers this week about whether the nra had enduring clout and an internal leadership about the bill. What does this say about the direct influence of the nra . We know its been very powerful over this president in the not so distant past. Definitely. We saw, you know, last time when the president came out forcefully saying that he wanted to crackdown on background checks and after the mass shooting he had a meeting with the nra and pulled back his stance on that. They are definitely influential. I would argue that, you know, the nra has lost a lot of power and influence under this administration. Its really stark especially when you look at the money that they poured into the president s campaign to hope that he would get elected. I do think from conversations ive had with people, the president is very serious about this. I know a lot of people especially on the hill are all eyes are on the president. Nothing is really going everything is taking their cue from the president. Nothing will change until President Trump gives some sort of cover for republicans to follow his lead. And so definitely the nra and wane lapeer is really pushing the president hard not to go too far in any sort of policy that might come forward but negotiations are still occurring on that. To follow up on your point what makes this any different than parkland. We remember back in parkland he vowed that background checks were fully back and few days later theres a late night nra meeting, and he flips his position. Right. Why wouldnt that just happen again . It definitely could. I think this time theres a lot of pressure especially from people inside the white house. And people close to the president who are trying to tell him we need to do something here and i think hes really working internally. The there had been talk of potentially some sort of executive order being floated around. Now i think hes really trying to work with congress behindthescenes on getting something forward. But i think that especially given the 2020 race and the campaign, he recognizes that this issue is something that he will not win on unless they take some sort of decisive action. Again its unclear that the president could flipflop on this or he could take his cues from the nra and other outside forces trying to pressure him how this will play with his base. So i think its definitely something you have to be watching, especially within this administration. The president could think one thing and be committed to one thing and then hours later have a call from someone and change his mind. Its hard to really say what hell do one way or the other. I think everyone is in this Holding Pattern now trying to take their cues from him. Kevin, if theres a protest in the hamptons its because someone is wearing the wrong linen. Last night President Trump had a fundraiser. He raised 12 million. There was a protest. Were they wearing linen . I dont know. Rnc chair saying they raised 2 million more than they original lie expected. Of course, you know theres a big backlash. People are upset because this was held by the billionaire owner of soulcycle and equinox. Will this brand shaming have any long term impact on the president s fundraising and fundraisers . No. I dont. Also, this is such a fascinating issue. I mean just how politics is now in soulcycle studios. This is part of a broader cultural trend in terms of as you alluded to brand shaming. From a Business Economic point has been going on, trending in this direction foreclose to a decade now. Everything from, you know, im thinking of the Kendall Jenner pepsi ad and this is something that sea level executives have been grappling with for quite some time. And its a function of yes, the Political Climate that we find ourselves in, but also the social media type as taylor swift referred to it the cancel culture. This is a really nuance, i think, sign of the times. It is. Also means that youll be able to get a room at that 9 00 soulcycle class. A bike. A bike. A room . Media room now. We dont know. But youre right. The Economic Impact of this has been proven the to be pretty minimal. We saw that with nike and the controversy as well. And chickfila. This morning were learning new details about the man accused of shooting and killing 22 people in that El Paso Walmart one week ago today. Newly unsealed Court Documents reveal what happened when Police Closed in on the suspect. Reporter we all have seen that video of Police Closing in in and arresting that accused gunman. Thanks to newly released arrest documents were learning that in that moment he confessed to police. When Police Closed in the accused el paso gunman did not try to run. Instead the man who police say just moments earlier murdered 22 people at a nearby walmart calmly told police, im the shooter. In a newly released arrest affidavit he spells out his racist motive telling officers in his words he was targeting mexicans. Just forthcoming with information from what we saw initially, definitely indicative of a hate crime. Reporter today three more victims will be laid to rest. A 56yearold woman who leaves behind four children. And a couple who died shielding their 2monthold son. Earlier this week President Trump visited el paso and met with the family. This morning a photo from that meeting is drawing backlash tweeted by First Lady Melania Trump it shows her holding the orphaned infant. President trump standing alongside them, smiling and flashing a thumbs up. A pose he used in other white house photos throughout the day. That horrible creepy picture of him with a thumbs up with melania holding an orphaned infant, i think says it all. Reporter the criticism came fast. Many calling his pick the youre the with the infant insensitive. The babys one cal tells the Washington Post the president of just there as a human being, consoling us and giving his condolences adding that his slain brother the childs father was very supportive of President Trump. And this morning walmart is now making changes to the way it markets violent video games. 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Does it come down the influence of the nra of the president and Republican Party . How influential is the nra now . I think what were seeing is the nra is on a steady slide down and really consistently since 2013. These polls are no different than all the polls weve been seeing time and time again and consistently proving through the elections that weve seen really since sandy hook. Theres overwhelming support for these policies even beyond just a universal background check that we want to see. You see high capacity magazine, assault weapons bans. Americans are fed up with turning on their tv day in and day out and seeing the cost of inaction which is human lives. And the time to act is now. It is. But then that said these sort of proposals that are out there will it make a difference. Some republicans and congress support the socalled red flag laws which would allow states to temporarily confiscate firearms from people who are deemed by a judge to be a danger to themselves and others and you see the polling there. It has widespread support. 90 of voters. You follow this topic. Would the red flag laws really make a difference . Would it have made a difference a week ago or in dayton or el paso . Listen, we know that extremist laws work and not only is that policy, you know, just completely designed with leading up to at who is at risk of extreme behavior but when these laws are in place they do save lives. We saw studies out of Duke University subjects to these risk warrant laws are 40 times more likely to die by suicide. Weve seen time and time again shooters where in 2015 sort of shooting that really sparked this into the national consciousness, you know the parents were calling and saying im really worried that my son is at risk of doing something harmful. But he didnt meet the criteria of involuntary committed. He was dangerous but we know the diagnosis itself is not what makes him dangerous and theres something more here. And those Behavioral Risk factors

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