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The investigation into Hillary Clintons emails finally wrapping it up and why is the president still using it as a talking point . Breaking news. Out of london. Where there is a brexit showdown in parliament this morning. A rare weekend signature of parliament is under way. The Prime Minister Boris Johnson imploring members to improve his divorce deal with the european union. Nbc news correspondent Steve Patterson is among the nbc reporters in the region including abington green which is expecting hundreds of thousands of protesters today. Steve, we know Prime Minister Boris Johnson has less than two weeks to do what theresa may was unable to do three times in her tenure there, so what are the members of pafrrliament voting today . They are voting on johnsons plan. And this is something that has been built for a long time, it is finally a decisive day after three years of this bitter divorce battle. Finally, a day in which members will sit down, and decide on a plan that maybe a brexit from the european union. And the numbers coming in today, have been billed as razor tight. Boris johnson needs 320 mps to get his proposal across. Some of the pundits have been predicting anywhere between 20, 15, maybe ten or five votes, depending which way the numbers go. There has already been some heated contention within the halls of parliament. Meeting for the first time, on a weekend session, in nearly 40 years, i want to take you there right now, and show you some of the just brorack and forth that been going on between johnson and members of parliament. Check this out. But i hate, mr. Speaker, that this is the moment where we can finally achieve that resolution, and reconcile the instincts that compete within us. This government has sought to avoid scrutiny throughout the process, and yesterday evening made empty promises on workers rights and the environment. This government cannot be trusted, and these benches will not be duped. Mr. Speaker, england is getting what it voted for. Wales is getting what it voted for. And Northern Ireland is getting a special deal. Yet scotland, the democratically voted to the name is, being ignored, and treated as a second class nation by this government. You mentioned theresa may. Some of the same things that were in mays proposal shut down by Parliament Three times, are in boriss plan which is essentially to have the rights protected of british citizens living in eu countries, the billions of dollars that the u. K. Would have to pay out and essentially what is this divorce agreement, and the stipulations for Northern Ireland, which has been sort of the central contention between all of this, which essentially keeps it in the umbrella of the eu customs union, and removes the u. K. At large which johnson argues would give them a little more negotiating power as they have to now renegotiate with all of these countries if his plan succeeds but again that is all on a razor thin margin as hundreds of thousands of protesters are expected to descend on central london. Big day here, dar ax. Back to you. A busy and exciting day. Steve paterson, thank you so much. Now to the fastmoving impeachment inquiry, now on day 26, following a week of stunning revelations. Heres the big picture of evidence collected so far, summarized by the Washington Post. Quote, over two weeks of closed door testimony, a clear portrait has emerged of a president personally orchestrating the effort to pressure a Foreign Government to dig up dirt on a potential 2020 political rival, and marshaling the full resources of the federal bureaucracy to help in that endeavor. Current and former Foreign Policy officials testified to congress this week. The diplomats were sidelined as the president inserted his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, in the process of conducting a shadow Foreign Policy on ukraine. And in new reporting last night, two sources tell nbc news, that diplomats told congress that giuliani tried to secure the ousted ukraine prosecutor promising dirt on democrats. And last night, Energy Secretary rick perry is the latest Trump Administration official to refuse to comply with subpoenas about documents about ukraine. White house chief of staff Mick Mulvaney is expected to defy his subpoena after he compounded the enormity of this week by confirming that there was a quid pro quo with ukraine. He also mentioned to me in the past that the corruption that related to the dnc server, absolutely. No question about that. Thats it. Thats why we held up the money. We do that all the time with Foreign Policy. And i have news for everybody, get over it. Theres going to be political influence in Foreign Policy. Mulvaney then walked back those comments but new today, a republican congressman says mulvaneys comments were enough for him not to rule out supporting impeachment. Is that acceptable for a sitting president . Im not happy with it. I dont know if it is a direct violation, but i dont understand why at this moment, they had to do that . You dont hold up foreign aid that we have previously appropriated for a political initiative. Period. What we have done to the kurds will stand as a bloodstain in the annals of american history. When america leaves, we create a vacuum and when we create a vacuum, we create chaos and thats what were seeing right now. Joining me right now White House Correspondent kelly odonnell. Good morning to you. Despite bipartisan criticism, the president is singing a different tune. Reporter very much so. He is rejecting the critics who say this was a poor judgment, a grave mistake, all of the kinds of things weve heard from, and some republicans, and many democrats, and the president has instead insisted that this was a nonconventional approach to his Foreign Policy decision making, that he says is actually going to result in a better outcome, because u. S. Troops will be coming home. The president also noted on twitter, how many lives would be saved by the cease fire. He did not go into, of course, some of the reports coming from Kurdish Forces that there has been ongoing military action. He did acknowledge there were some skirmishes early in the cease fire. But the president tweeted last night, that tweet we just saw there, and he has emphasized that his unconventional approach has been able to get turkey to back down for a period of days, to allow kurds to move out of the area, of course, that doesnt really speak to the issue of kurds as longtime u. S. Allies, beng forced from their own land. But heres how the president characterized where he thinks things stand right now, after so much criticism. Theres a cease fire, or a pause, or whatever you want to call it, there was some sniper fire this this morning, there was mortar fire this morning, that was eliminated quickly. And theyre back to the full pause. Weve taken control of the oil in the middle east. The oil that were talking about. The oil that everybody was worried about. We have isis totally under guard. Sometimes you have to get through some pain before you can get a good solution but the kurds is very happy about it, president erdogan and turkey is satisfied with it, and we are in a very strong position. So the president maintains the u. S. Is in a strong position despite the fact many allies disagree with this. Ultimately being able to execute an operation that they wanted to execute for years so it would make sense theyre happy what theyre getting but however the kurds are not happy with the outcome. Also curious in the president s commens there, his statement that the u. S. Has obtained control of the oil that people were worried about. We asked about this. We dont know what hes referring to there. There had been some questions about u. S. Nuclear weapons that were stored in turkey, and the fate of those, were those under secure care, and that isnt what he was talking about there, it is really unclear what oil he is referring to, or what hes talking about there, there was no followup from the white house to explain the president s comments there. But he is setting very different narrative than his critics, and others who are observing these events unfold. Thats for certain. Kelly odonnell, thank you for that update. Joining me now, joey manchester, reporter for the hill, and dave lellen thal, for the integrity. And lets start with the impeachment inquiry. This week was jaw dropping with a cascade of stunning revelations. Dave, given the evidence under cover this week, does it seem that the House Democrats may already have enough for articles of impeachment . Possibly, but theyre going to keep going forward. They are not in a hurry, and thats what we have really learned about this week, they are going to take a very deliberate, methodical approach. Nancy pelosi herself, saying that nothing is imminent. Although were hearing too ultimately this could come to a head at the end of the year, if youre suspecting in the next week or the next few day, get over it, so to speak but at the same time, too, it is going to be a process that ultimately is going to come to some fruition, we think, at this point, based on everything that were hearing, at least in 2019. Julia, the real question seems to be not if, but when articles of impeachment will be introduced. And whether the evidence in the president s actions on other fronts may crack his support among the republicans. So what was the overall effect of this week on that front . You know, i think youre still seeing republicans standing strong, in their support of President Trump. I mean obviously there are republicans such as lisa murkowski, maybe some more moderate republicans, that are starting to back away, or may not be as in support of President Trump, but you know, i think so far, you know, i think republicans, especially in the house, are very cognizant of the fact that many of them are facing reelection in 2020, and they know that their base of conservative constituents are still very much behind President Trump. So they are very much walking a very narrow political tight rope, if you will, dealing with their own constituents, but also having to field all of these continuing questions, and about this ongoing impeachment inquiry, due to the drip, drip, drip, of information. However, if we talk about cracking among republicans, i would say the real issue here, is with syria, and President Trumps decision to withdraw u. S. Troops, from Northern Syria. I think that is where youre going to see more support cracking among more republicans. I dont know if that will ever impact the impeachment inquiry, but it was just remarkable, seeing some of the president s staunchest allies such as lindsey graham, Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell writing an oped in the Washington Post yesterday, slamming the decision, so if were going to talk about a crack among republicans, i dont think youre going to see as much in terms of impeachment, but Foreign Policy, absolutely. And House Minority leader Kevin Mccarthy the staunchest supporter of the president , he came to mulvaneys defense but mulvaneys clarification was not enough for republican congressman Francis Rooney who was not ruling out supporting impeachment. Lets take a listen. Whatever may have been gray and unclear before is certainly quite clear right now that the actions were related to getting some of, ukraine to do some of these things. Were not supposed to use government power and prestigious for political gain. Is that an Impeachable Offense . Thats something i really cant answer. I dont know. I want to study it some more. I want to hear the next set of testimony next week, from a couple more ambassadors, but it certainly is very, very serious and troubling. Dave, is congressman rooney at downliner or to julias point, signs of cracks in support of the president in congress . He is an outlier and anyone saying similar things on the republican side is an outlier. Lets not throw the cold wet blanket of reality on the situation right now but we will. You need twothirds of the u. S. Senate to actually remove the president from office. And the house, hey, its almost a foregone conclusion that if the democrat does want to go forward, the democratic leadership wants to go forward, and im people th, im peoplach t president , they will be able to do that but with twothirds of the u. S. Senate, republican control of the u. S. Senate, to remove the president from office, still at this point, knowing everything that we know right now, seems almost unthinkable. And there is more testimony scheduled for next week including acting ambassador to ukraine, bill taylor and likely asked why he texted the u. S. Ambassador to the u. N. And as i said on the phone, you think it is crazy to withhold Security Assistance for help with a political campaign. Given davids admission this week of a quid quo pro, how crucial is ambassador taylors testimony . It is definitely important. And we are going to be hanging on pretty much every word that is able to come out but at the same time, too, is it an ultimate gamechanger that will force lots of republicans in the house to suddenly get on the impeachment bandwagon . Probably not. And it also, too, is not going to do anything in the senate to ultimately change a lot of minds, Something Else is going to have to happen here. In order for the equation to change. Again, even with all of the events of this past week. Something else we will have to see what that will be. Dave leventhal, great to have you. Julia manchester, thanks for joining us this morning. Thank you. We now have breaking news on conflict between turkeys military and Kurdish Forces on syrias northern border. And a growing humanitarian crisis resulting from the fighting. U. N. Officials say in just the past seven days, refugee camps took in 166,000 people, and many spilling across the border into iraq. And nbcs aarerin mclaughlin jo us from near the border near syria and turkey. Erin, what are you seeing there today . Reporter well, will dara, let me just give you a sense of where im standing about. A mile behind me is the syrian turkey border and beyond that is a kurdish city that is the flash point in the entire conflict. Yesterday morning, we saw heavy clashes over the city unfolding. Today, its comparatively quiet. We have seen sporadic small arms fire, turkey is insisting that it is sticking to the terms of the agreement, between turkey and the United States, in terms of a cease fire. Meanwhile, Kurdish Forces are insisting that turkey is violating that agreement, especially with respect to the creation of a safe corridor for humanitarian supplies to get into the city, and for the injured and civilians to get out. We have been unable to verify those claims. We also reached out to turkey, no comment, thus far. The mechanics of how this agreement are going to work, where there are serious questions about that as well, with the sdf, reports from inside the city saying theyre unable to withdraw their forces. One of the terms of the agreement between the u. S. And turkey, we spoke to one u. S. Official, who acknowledged those concerns, pointing to the turkishbacked militants that are operating in this region, that turkey doesnt have full control over some of its elements, meanwhile president erdogan is saying at the end of this fiveday period, if Kurdish Forces have not fully withdrawn from the area, well, turkey is going to continue its assault. Dara . Erin mclaugh lin, thank you very much for that report. And another breaking story that were following this morning, is Tropical Storm nestor, the National Weather service is reporting the storm is increasing the chance of Severe Weather in Central Florida as it makes landfall. A tornado reportedly touched ground in polk county overnight. 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