Rocket and get rid of you for a while. Thank you very much. Good afternoon. Im chuck todd in we just heard from President Trump just before he left the White House South Lawn to go get on to air force one and head to michigan. Joining me is my coanchor, katy tur. Sort of he seemed a bit, i get, jovial for him today as he gets ready to go to michigan. This is an uncomfortable time to be going there. They have this flood issue with the dams that broke on top of obviously the virus. And its been a politically, shall we say, polarizing time in michigan as well, and the president s visit may contribute to that. Yeah. And there have been questions asked about whether its a good idea for him to go to a place that has been such a hot zone because of the crowds that he attracts. You just heard him say hes not sure if hell wear a mask. Hes been asked about it a lot, he says, but hes still looking at it. The attorney general there, i believe, asked him to wear a mask. At one point the ford plant had asked him to wear a mask. And, lets just go back to yesterday when he threatened to withhold federal funding to michigan as the state was holding these floods. As these floods were bearing down on them. He was going to pull it out because he said it was not right for them to send out a question for two people saying, do you want to participate in mailin voting if you can . He conflated that and said that michigan was sending out mailin ballots to everybody in michigan when they werent actually doing th that. And he threatened to withhold the funding. I believe first read summed it up best today. Mailin vote for me but not for thee. He is saying if you live in the white house, you should be able to mail in your ballot, but if you dont or if youre sick, you should be able to, but if you dont, then you should not. This has been a bit of a republican talking point because theyre concerned if more people vote, the concern has been that republicans wont do as well as democrats. Mitt romney today came out and pushed back on that and said, hey, listen. Look at utah. We do a lot of mailin ballots and this is a very, very red state. Youre right. Going to michigan right now, obviously a battleground state. One of a number of battleground states. The election has been clearly on his mind talking about mailin ballots and going to a place where he won in 2016 and hopes to win again. Of those three midwestern states, it is the place if you talk to everybody that is seeing numbers on the democratic or republican side, it is the state he is struggling in the most that he carried in 2016. As you just heard, as we all just heard, the president responded to the new study from Columbia University which showed an earlier response to the pandemic. Things like social distancing. It could have had a dramatic impact. If social distancing policies had been inacted in the u. S. Just one week earlier back in march, more than 36,000 lives could have been saved. If they were enacted just two weeks earlier, researchers estimate 50,000 fewer people would have died. The president called the study a political hit job and went to its sort of what have become common talking points when hes questioned about his response timing. Last night he said if he could do it all over again, he would not do anything differently. Mr. President , with 4 of the worlds population and 30 of the outbreak, what would you have done differently facing this very well, nothing. If you take new york and new jersey which were very hard hit, we were very, very low. You look at the death relatively speaking, were at the lowest level along with germany. Id like to ask you maybe about that, if i could. Weve done, you know, amazing i think the biggest thing we did is stopping the inflow from china. Joining us now, Nbcs Carol Lee from the white house. Carol, it is really earth one, earth two, and this white house has decided theyre going to spin a tale that is much different than the facts you see on the ground. Yeah, chuck. The one message from President Trump that has been consistent throughout this crisis is, i did a good job. Youll not see him deviate from that message. If anything, hes going to be hitting it harder as he campaigns for reelection. He just said a few minutes ago, not only this Columbia University study was politicized, but also that he did a great job. He was earlier than anybody else was in responding to this pandemic. And a white house official responded to the Columbia University study by blaming china and the world health organization. Thats another thing that weve been seeing. And, chuck, Vice President mike pence was on Fox Business Network this morning. Heres how he responded to a question about this. Because of the leadership that President Trump provided, starting in january, when he suspended all travel from china, when he stood up the White House Coronavirus task force, began screening passengers from china and then as you know, stewart, we eventually closed down travel from europe, screened passengers from italy and south korea. We bought an extraordinarily important amount of time. So you see thats the message from this white house. That the president s response was fine. Thats what its going to be. I wouldnt expect any of that to change. This is a white house not ready to do a retrospective on what the president could have done better or differently for now and for the remainder of this crisis and throughout the campaign. Its going to be that he did a great job. As you mentioned, theres a very other different story to be told. Well, about the only thing they admit is that the cdc messed up as weve learned. Thats the one thing they are willing to concede. But its almost as if they want to create an almost as if theyre a separate entity from the administration. Carol lee getting us started. Katy, over to you. Chuck, a question about what the cdc is doing right now. Thats coming up later in the show. While the president is heading to the battleground state of michigan, a new National Poll shows hes trailing rival joe biden in the 2020 election. The quinnipiac poll shows the former Vice President leading President Trump by 11 points. 50 to 39 . Joining us is msnbc National Political correspondent steve kornacki. Steve, with the caveat that it will be battleground states that end up deciding this election, first tell us about this National Poll. Obviously, thats the biggest margin youve seen for biden in recent National Poll. If you take all the recent National Polls and average them together, you are looking at a biden lead of about 5. 5 points on average over donald trump in the National Poll. Like you say, though, and as we learned in 2016, as we were reminded in 2016, its about the battleground states. Its about the race to 270. Lets look at the six key battleground states. Trump won 6 for 6 in them in 2016. What are we looking at polling in these states . Here you go. Arizona, florida, michigan, carolina, pennsylvania, wisconsin. Remember, trump won all six of these in 2016. Some of them narrowly. Youve got biden in the average of the polls taken in these states in the last month or so. Youve got biden up in five of them. Trump hanging on by a small margin. Polling is a little sporadic at the statewide level. Some grains of salt here. Remember, when we Start Talking about battle for 270, these are the states that really become important here. Keep in mind with this in mind, lets take a quick look here at our road to 270 map. This is where we start. This is where it finished in 2016. Remember this was clintons number, 232. If you look back at those, you saw a Comfortable Lead in the average. If he got pennsylvania, michigan. Hes even ahead by a smaller margin but hes ahead in wisconsin. And if he just wins those three states back and nothing else changes, thats enough right there. If you cant get wisconsin, thats a little closer. Actually in the average right now, a bigger margin for biden is in arizona. So what if biden flipped arizona . This is a state where the demographic trends have been favoring the democrats for a while. Suburban i aanites in the phoen metro area. Or what about this. You also saw florida. Im pressing the wrong buttons. You saw florida. If biden could win florida, remember, hes been doing better with Senior Citizens than past democrats. That puts him in a position. One other state, michigan, for instance, would put him over. Florida and one other could also do it. Steve, any state that Hillary Clinton won in 2016 potentially up for grabs for trump this go around . His campaign has talked about minnesota. They made a little noise about nevada, new mexico. You havent seen it in the polling in those states yet. The potential there for trump to flip them. But minnesota is one his campaign has made noise about. Its one he got close in, in 2016, but he still lost it by two points. Steve kornacki, always a fascinating look at the polling state by state. Chuck, over to you. Now the latest in the race for a Coronavirus Vaccine. The United States is giving Drugmaker Astrazeneca a billion dollars in funding for the development, production and delivery of a Coronavirus Vaccine from Oxford University. Data from a trial which started in april with 1,000 Healthy Volunteers is expected soon. Joining us now is the president of astrazeneca u. S. , executive Vice President of biopharmaceuticals. Mr. Dobber, thank you for joining us. What makes the United States governments billion dollars to you guys, what does that give you the resources to do . Well, first of all, we are very pleased, of course, with this agreement. Its a very substantial agreement, and we really would like to thank secretary azar and hhs for that collaboration in this crisis. And to help us further develop the vaccine. The vaccine is one of the most promising vaccines in developments. We are working with oxford group, a very well known group on this vaccine for quite some time. This amount of money helps us to deliver 100 million doses to the american citizens in october and another 200 million at the end of 2020, beginning of 2021. So its a massive effort in order to make it happen. But were very committed in order to do that. Are you saying you think youre going to have a workable vaccine in six months . And that 100 million doses are going to be available to the United States citizens . Thats a realistic timetable . We are doing everything. Of course, we are in unprecedented times. We all agree with that. Theres a tragedy ongoing in the world both from a personal perspective, as well as from an economic perspective. And we have a huge commitment as an organization in order to make that available. First of all, of course, the vaccine needs to work. As we speak, you mentioned that we have currently vaccinated thousands of volunteers in the united kingdom. We hope to see the results relatively soon. Assuming that the vaccine shows safety and to a certain extent efficacy, we will start large Clinical Trials in the United States as well as in other parts of the world over the summer period in june, july. Equally, as we speak, were beefing up our manufacturing capabilities, and we are confident that we will be able to deliver 100 million doses in october. Assuming, of course, the vaccine is working. Mr. Dobber, katy tur here. I know serve desperate for a vaccine for this. Can you guarantee that what you come out with is going to be safe for the general population . Thats always the most important part. Of course, first of all, the vaccine needs to work, but, of course, it also needs to be safe. And we need to realize that the efforts we are taking together with our colleagues at the Oxford University is enormous. Normally it takes many, many years in order to develop a vaccine. We try to do this now in roughly nine months. And safety is a very crucial element in order to get a vaccine in the marketplace. Of course, we are working very closely together with regulatory agencies around the world, the fda, in the uk, the ra, and were on top to make sure that the vaccine is effective and safe as well. What are you doing to ensure the safety . What sort of trials . First of all, we have already done a phase one phase two trial. That trial is ongoing as we speak. Once again, we are expecting in the next few weeks the results of that. Its monitored by independent data monitoring committee. Equally, if the safety of the vaccine is good, we will start as soon as possible this largescale Clinical Trials across the world. Safety is also a very important element for Vaccine Development. But equally its very important that we work with speed and, therefore, the collaboration of ourselves with multiple countries is crucial in order to make that happen. Mr. Dobber, does the billion dollars from the United States mean that u. S. Citizens are at the front of the line for the vaccine . And i say this thats on one hand, obviously, we in america love to see a vaccine and we love to be among the first. At the same time, this is a global crisis. What is your companys parameters when it comes to, if this vaccine is a vaccine that works, how do you prioritize . And does it go to who has funded you first . Do you share it with the world . Walk us through that. Thats a very good question. And as an organization, were very committed in order to make the vaccine available to as many countries as possible. In the announcement earlier today, we have promised to deliver 300 million doses to the United States. Earlier in the week we made the announcement of 100 million doses to the united kingdom. Equally, we already have a capacity of roughly 1 billion vaccines and we are in with organizations and institutes in india in order to develop that capacity as quickly as possible. So we are discussing agreements as we speak with multiple countries across the world. And we are setting up different supply chains in the world. We have a separate supply chain in the United States. Were working with one in europe and, clearly, also were working with other supply providers in other parts of the world because you have a very clear ambition to make this vaccine broad and ecwi ecquitable across the globe. Mr. Dobber, if it turns out between now and october or even after that, that this vaccine does not work, its not as promising as it might look right now, can you redirect that funding somewhere else . Yeah, i think in the contracts we announced earlier to get this, clearly there are milestones. And like us also, the u. S. Government will look very carefully at all the milestones we have in the contract and equally, of course, if the vaccine is not working, then the money will be redirected to other parts of Vaccine Development or treatment. Ruud dobber from astrazeneca, boy, its an incredibly fast timeline. Let me tell you. I think a lot of us are hoping you hit it and good luck, and stay safe and healthy. Thank you, sir. Thank you so much. Katy, over to you. Coming up one of the Biggest Challenges in the days and weeks ahead. Convincing people its safe to once again use public transportation. And to get on a plane. Youre watching msnbc. Eir energy into helping others. To anyone helping and caring in their own way. Thank you. Like you, were always on. Were proud to put our Energy Behind you. Southern company get the perfectly grilled flavors of an outdoor grill indoors, and because its a ninja foodi, it can do even more, like transform into an air fryer. The ninja foodi grill, the grill that sears, sizzles, and air fry crisps. You say that customers maklets talk data. S. Only Xfinity Mobile lets you switch up your wireless data whenever. I accept 5g everybodys talking about it. How do i get it . Everyone gets 5g with our new data options at no extra cost. Thats good. Next item corner offices for everyone. Just have to make more corners in this building. Chad . Your wireless your rules. Only with Xfinity Mobile. Now thats simple easy awesome. Switch and save up to 400 a year on your wireless bill. Plus get 200 off a new Samsung Galaxy s20 ultra. As the country reopens you may be wondering, how am i going to get to work . New Safety Measures are being enacted for Public Transit and also for air travel nationwide. Nbcs Gabe Gutierrez has the latest on what you can expect. Reporter in the first Pilot Program of its kind, new york citys mta is testing these ultra violet lights to zap coronavirus on its trains and buss. Its been known for more than 100 years that uv light is incredibly efficient at killing both viruses and bacteria. Reporter these uv rays are so strong the disinfecting will happen when the trains are out of Service Without passengers. Research shows the virus can live on a subway seat for up to 72 hours. Weeks ago this system began shutting down overnight for deep cleaning. This is the next step. Critical to reopening the economy, experts say, is assuring passengers that transportation is safe, both underground and in the air. More airlines are annou