Its not about her. Its about the American People. Its about the American People and how we have a real and Strategic Plan. This administration has not had a Strategic Plan for the six months that we know about the coronavirus. And as we said at the top right now, treasury secretary Steve Mnuchin and president trumps chief of staff mark meadows are heating with House Speaker nance pelosi and Senate Minority leader chuck schumer. They are trying to come to an agreement on a Coronavirus Relief package. This as the Trump Administration is reportedly considering taking executive action to provide Coronavirus Relief, if congress cant reach a deal. That is according to two people with knowledge of the deliberations who spoke to the Washington Post. And joining me now is nbc news digital reporter and capitol hill correspondent Garrett Haake. Garrett, let me start with you. That meeting about to get under way. In terms of the status of these negotiations, what can you tell us . Are there xwrareas where there Common Ground or areas where theyre apart right now. What are the status of these negotiations . The progress of these negotiations are glacial at best. Their best meeting three and a half hours long. That ir trying to string together a couple good meetings and nobody i talked to involved in this process is particularly optimistic that they can come to a fullscale agreement any time soon. We know the broad contours of what some of the problems have been. Great deal of expanded unemployment benefits. Democrats would like to see that stay at 600 per week for folks unemployed or peg that number to the Unemployment Rate so the problem gets better nationwide, those numbers come down. They dont want it to be an arbitrary time frame like the next few weeks or few months if states could put that into place as republicans have laid out there. The other big thing to watch is what to do with funding for state and local governments. Democrats want to spend hundreds of billions of dollars to help out local governments around the country who have been struggling with coronavirus and republicans in their proposal have only loosened the strings around money that was already appropriated. Those continue to be two of the biggest sticking points. But the typical washington cliche which often applies does so in this case. Theres not an agreement on anything until there is an agreement on everything. So, the way that these sort of piles of money are slid around, it could affect the total price tag here probably the third thing i would keep an eye on. Republicans in the senate are all of a sudden finding religion again about not wanting to spend too much moneyen othe next relief bill and that could be the stumbling point if and when these negotiators come to a deal. Everything kind of a comprehensive agreement need to be in place here. That is the other ideaed floa d by the administration that you have the additional 600 boost and they say extend that by a week and just keep that going while the negotiations on Everything Else are playing out. Is that idea dead . Logistical and political problems with that. The idea that you turn the spigot on for one week is very difficult to do logistically and politically if you think about it from a negotiating standpoint, democrats dont want to peel off just the popular or urgent or what they see as the most critical parts of this. You want to keep all these things together and if you only deal with a couple popular things it is entirely popular that a lot of the other measures in this bill that democrats think they need to get through to the president s desk can be left on the wayside for republicans who are not interested in dealing with them. To shannon at the white house. Taking us through all the steps of the negotiation and the report we have from the Washington Post about weighing some executive action. Garrett is outlining the dimensions of this debate and federal Unemployment Insurance and moratorium on evictions and aid to state and local governments. Do you have any sense, is the white house saying anything about where specifically they think they even could take executive action here . Well, this is certainly the posturing at the moment. Now, the big question about can they do this legally . On the surface, it does not seem that way but, of course, that has not stopped this white house from taking executive action on other things that seemed legally questionable when it comes to pushing the bounds of what powers the executive branch of the government has. A couple things to keep in mind here. Lets say there was a legal challenge to this, politically, that could put democrats in a difficult position because then they appear like they are challenging the white house for giving people added unemployment benefits. So, politically, the thinking is at least one line of thinking that if they went ahead with some sort of executive action then democrats would move to block it if they felt this was a legal overreach. Obviously, a lot of posturing going on and in negotiations its hard to know whatever anyone is saying is true or whether its just a tactic. As garrett said the white house continuing to have these conversations on the hill. At least some element could move forward on that front, but, you know, were kind of getting to the point where the white house may need to rethink who would have these negotiations and what their strategy would be and we havent seen Mitch Mcconnell play much of a role here and that is another factor element introduced in the next 48 hours or so if things dont progress. News coming out of the building that youre in front of. Politico reported this and we at msnbc has reporting. The white house now requiring random coronavirus testing for some staffers. What can you tell us there . Administration official told me they had already been doing voluntary random coronavirus testing of staffers here on the white house campus but now theyre making it mandatory suggesting something happened where they felt the need to make this a requirement not something that people could voluntarily submit to. Last week the National Security adviser was diagnosed with covid19. The white house is probably one of the least socially distanced workplaces that ive seen. You rarely see people Wearing Masks around the west wing while people close to the president are tested regularly. Those who arent close to the president arent and, theyre going around working without masks in close quarters. Visitors are no longer having their temperatures checked or being asked for symptoms. So, you know, theres very few really measures that have been put in place in the white house but now this mandatory testing is one of them. All right, Shannon Pettypiece at the white house, Garrett Haake on capitol hill. Thanks for being with us. As the number of coronavirus cases, now the confirmed number approaching 4. 7 million, some lawmakers are pressing for more testing. But one of the nations Top Health Officials is the assistant Health Secretary he cautioned that better and faster testing, he says, will not alone solve the crisis. Obviously, we want to increase testing. Weve done that. And i told you how weve done that. But testing is a part of the strategy. We dont test our way out of this. We do smart policies with testing as an adjunct. Joining me now is democratic congressman andy kim from new jersey. He questioned admiral giroir. This subject of testing came up there. Were seeing the reports from all over the country now. Folks taking coronavirus tests and being told, okay, well get back to you with an answer in a week. What is your sense of what specific steps need to be taken here right now where that wait can be brought down to something more reasonable . Thank you so much for having me. This is a huge problem still. I mean, its huge problem for people in my district. As i said in the hearing, i have people in my district reaching out telling they waited over ten days for a test and some of them are still waiting for that. We need to be able it bring this down. It is about having more tests available and making sure that the tests are being done in a timely way. If we have 820,000 tests a day as the administration briefed us at a hearing but also saying that 40 of those tests are taking longer than three days to be able to get back. A quarter of the tests taking longer than five days. That means 200,000 people a day are going to be waiting more than five days to get their test back. Thats unacceptable. What can be done . What steps right now should beic taen he taken here . Other steps taken to get the wait time down and testing up . Its about our capacity. Making sure that we have what our country needs to be able to do this. This includes making sure that we have greater lab space and availability in terms of capacity there to be able to make sure that were having the other material there. There is a supply chain backlog here that is still not being addressed and were continuing to do this in a piece meal fashion rather than having across the board. When i asked about using the defense production act and other steps like that to push forward dr. Fauci and others didnt say whether they felt we were using the maximum of our capacity. I dont think the richest, most powerful country in the world should be having these types of problems with testing 195 days after the very first positive case in our country. We need to get better and we need to do that immediately. I think we should have a National Standard to make sure that all tests come back within 72 hours and those are some of the types of steps thad would normally come into effect with a National Testing strategy. But it shows we dont have one. Let me ask you about the news of the hour right now in washington, d. C. That is these negotiations the meeting now about to take place. White house officials, congressional leaders ftrying t come to an agreement on a coronavirus aid package. I saw mark meadows and he said there has been some progress but he says he does not think there will be a solution in the very near term. Do you agree with that assessment . Well, first of all, its absolutely ridiculous that were in this situation to start with. We in the house pushed forward over ten weeks ago to be able to have a bill that would make these reforms and make these changes and extensions to be able to help the American People out. People in my district are frightened and worried and scared about what happens next. A lot of them dont know how theyre going to be able to pay their bills. They dont like hearing all these excuses. So, for the senate and for the white house to come at us as a late stage and now say they want to drag their feet some more. Thats absolutely unacceptable and this is the brinksmanship of washington congressman, i understand youre frustrated at how this has all come about and clear where you put the blame. I understand, i take the point. But the question is, these benefits and these federal benefits lapsed as of friday. They no longer exist right now. Do you think a solution is going to be reached and a deal is going to be reached in the near future or do you agree with the white house chief of staff that this is going to drag out . Im hoping, every single day i hope we get a deal today. Thats what the American People deserve and for the white house chief of staff to be thinking about it and making those types of projections that its not even close, i think thats the wrong attitude and the wrong message to send to our country. Quick question here, the administration has put out the idea as of last friday night this 600 a week federal boost, the federal government has been shipping 600 more and that has expired. The administration put the idea out there of extend that by a week, keep that going while negotiations take place on a bigger, broader deal. I know democrats have not been eager. Do you think thats something that should be on the table at all . Well, right now im having everything on the table because, again, its about making sure were delivering for the people for the people that are struggling right now. But what they dont want to see is more kick the can down the road. They want to have something to be able to plan for. In the absence of that, i dont know how we are able to move forward, just something that continues to kick the can down the road. Congressman andy kim democrat of new jersey. Thank you for joining us. Appreciate that. We have some breaking news, as well. About the president s efforts to keep his tax returns his tax records private. Were going to go to nbc investigative correspondent tom winter with the news. What can you tell us . The Manhattan District Attorney office which brought this grand jury subpoena limited back last fall looking for his tax documents not just the tax returns but the documents that make up the tax returns and that sparked a legal fight that went all the way to the Supreme Court. Of course, last week the president and his attorneys filed a Second Amended complaint basically saying the Supreme Court made their ruling but able toal change the subpoena on grounds that you or i or anybody watching it could challenge those grounds. Today the District Attorneys attorneys have filed a motion with the court to dismiss that second complaint essentially telling the judge, look, these are reic cycled complaints by t president and the things he is claiming that this grand jury subpoena should not be enforced and of note, steve, here they say the idea that having the subpoena is tied to the 2016 socalled hush money payments against two women that have alleged affairs with them. That is the scope of this grand jury subpoena is inaccurate. They write an alleged, the investigation of the subpoena is also related to a alleged insurance and bank fraud by the Trump Organization and its officers. So, thats based on a filing that they made previously but it broadens our understanding of where this investigation and the scope of the subpoena is. In addition to that, they also address the president s concerns that this subpoena has to do with documents that are outside of new york and outside of manhattan and thus outside of the grand jury here in new york city. They say thats not true. The focus of this is the Trump Organization and even though they may do business in other parts of the country and other parts of the world, its headquartered here and headquartered here throughout the entire of the period where the documents have been requested. Basically here you have the Manhattan District Attorneys office saying your honor, enough is enough. This process continues to be delayed and well have statute of limitations concerns even if we get the evidence, we will not be able to move forward with it. Time to bring it to an end to dismiss the president s claim and move on. The president claimed this was an overbroad subpoena that was brought in bad faith and todays filing addressing is the bulk of those concerns, steve. And very quickly, tom, do you have any sense of the time table here. The manhattan da is asking its case and asking this of the judge. Any sense when you get an answer . The president s reply due by august 14th and the District Attorney filed this about a week or so ahead of its schedule largely because they want to move forward so quickly. The president has a week or two here, steve too, file his reply to this and the judge may have a hearing or issue a written order. This may appeal to the Second Circuit court of appeals here in manhattan meaning were another month or two away from a decision on that. The chances are its possible the manhattans office does not get the president s returns until after election day. But, of course, this schedule is fluid and could change and that could change, as well. Tom winter with the breaking news there. Thank you for in joing us. Appreciate that. The university of kentucky is welcoming its 30,000 students back for the fall semester with mandatory coronavirus testing on campus. Well be in lexington with more on that after the break. Plus, new hopes for a Coronavirus Vaccine in the coming months but now Health Experts suggest that may not be enough by itself to get society back to normal. That conversation is next. Youre watching msnbc. Msnbc. That they dont recall things as quickly as they used to or they dont remember things as vividly as they once did. Ive been taking prevagen for about three years now. People say to me periodically, man, youve got a memory like an elephant. Its really, really helped me tremendously. Prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. Stand up to moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. And take. It. On. With rinvoq. Rinvoq a oncedaily pill. Can dramatically improve symptoms. Rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. And for some. Rinvoq can even significantly reduce ra fatigue. Thats rinvoq relief. 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