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MSNBCW MSNBC Live Decision 2020 April 6, 2020

Different parts of latin america, south america, and just coming into our country. Now weve got them stopped at the border and theyre trying to do it by sea. We stop them at the border with and frankly with the help of mexico, mexico right now is 27,000 soldiers on our southern border. Theyre doing that because ive asked them to do it. Thats the only reason theyre doing it. They have 27,000 soldiers. So now theyre trying to bring it in by boat and ship the drug lords and the people doing drugs and trying to destroy our country from inside with drugs. And were hitting them very, very hard. And thats why reporter u. S. Assets are targeting . Say it . Reporter is it beyond narcotics . Are there other activities there are the activities of Human Trafficking and especially with respect to women. As you know, proportionally, its mostly women. Its a horrible thing and theres never been a time like it and its because of the internet. This is all over the world. For the most part, theyre coming through in this country, theyre coming through the southern border, but were hitting them very hard. They have tremendous illegal trafficking, women and children also. But mostly in women. And its illegal and its horrible and its disgraceful. Ive seen things that are an absolute disgrace. Were trying to knock them out and were knocking them hard. I want to thank the president of mexico. He has really stepped up to the plate. 27,000 soldiers, theyve never had any soldiers on our border. And i did that because the democrats will not approve anything because they want to have open borders. They want to have all these people flowing through our border and in many cases theyre sick, they have problems that you dont want to know about or theyre criminal, in many cases. Not in all cases. They want to have open borders and sanctuary cities. So they protect criminals. And i dont want to have that. And joe biden doesnt want to have that because he said that during numerous debates. I want to have strong borders and i dont like protecting criminals with sanctuary cities. Were doing it for drugs, Human Trafficking, doing it because we have to do it. Reporter Governor Cuomo reporter a question on Antibody Testing. By may we expect to have millions available. How are you going to prioritize who is going to get the Antibody Test and is what is that going to show you . Do you think thats going to be immunity . I would rather have the admiral answer that. I know you probably answer this, the Antibody Test does not tell you if you have the active virus in your nose, if youre positive for the antibody, it strongly implies, it means that you have had the virus before. And to the degree that we know of medical knowledge, you will probably, highly probably be protected against getting the virus again in the future. I want to make something clear. Theres no Antibody Test approved, okay. Approved is not a word we talk about. Theres a test or two that has received emergency use authorization and many, many, many others out there that have not gone that way yet. And i want to take this opportunity to caution, there is a very consolidated effort by the fda, and iah to validate some of the tests that are on the market right now because its very important that they actually do what they say they do. We have reason to believe that not all of them are going to perform well. I dont know the primary source. But the Financial Times just reported that the uk had 7. 5 million Antibody Tests that they bought and none of them work. Were not going to get in that situation. Were going to be careful to make sure that when we tell you, youre likely immune from the disease, youre really that test really said that. Now, i will also make a statement, and theres a lot of work on here and im excited about it. As opposed to the test for a novel virus, the antibody type tests are very sophisticated technology, but theyre old technology. This we expect to have many tens of millions of tests the first month that were really sure that the test makes sense. So this allows for surveillance screening and dr. Birx is one of the world experts to understand is 1 , 5 , 20 of americans have been infected. But it allows us to have very widespread tens and tens of millions of people screened with a finger rick on the spot. By may youre saying this will happen . Science doesnt run on rails. We need to make sure that the fda, the nih, which theyre actively doing right now, are sure that the tests that theyre testing really do perform the way they should and if things work out the way we believe they will, we will have millions on the market by may in a lets take an assessment of where we are after what has already been a long briefing. A look at the headlines, what weve learned. Notably, it was from late in the briefing, but there has apparently been another perfect call. Second use that were aware of of the phrase by the president. The first, of course, was his with the president of ukraine. But apparently mike pence had a perfect call with the nations 50 governors and apparently not a negative word was spoken about the administrations reaction thus far. And it has earned that label. The president started off by talking about Boris Johnson and marshaling the efforts of four u. S. Pharma companies with officers in london to get the latest technology, therapies and treatment to the Prime Minister. He said he appreciated Governor Cuomos nice statements today along with governor murphy of new jersey. Again, about this call with the governors, there wasnt a negative person on the call. He has switched to calling 3m a great company. The fight between the u. S. Government, between donald trump and 3m, was still something he was reeling about yesterday, but apparently all is well there. Had a friendly call with joe biden today. Lets dip back in to the White House Briefing room for a moment. I want to im going to look into it. And i also think our Navy Secretary is a highly respected man. Sometimes that happens with people and ill take a look at it. Reporter what do you mean by that . Would you consider reinstating when he sends a letter out and copies all over the place, and its not a classified letter and it was very disconcerting to the families of the people on the ship. Number one, they get worried and scared. It was weak. We dont want weak. But im going to take a look because hes i think you know, he looks to me like hes an outstanding guy. Just a little while ago, i looked at his file and people have bad days and well take a look at it. Reporter what would you consider doing for him . Well take a look. I want to speak to the secretary. I also want to speak to secretary of defense, mark esper, who is doing a fantastic job. And well maybe i can help the situation out. You guys are saying why is the president getting involved . I like to solve problems. Its a problem, you know. I dont want to see men hurt, women hurt, i dont want to see people hurt unnecessarily. Maybe we can solve it easily where, you know, its not lifechanging. But he did a bad thing. Sending a letter out and many, many copies as you heard. I heard 28 copies, i heard a lot. Thats a lot of copies. Plus the letter was five pages long. I havent read the letter. I think it was five pages long. Thats a lot of writing. Hes the captain of a ship. Hes a very important person of a very expensive ship, a nuclearpowered ship. He shouldnt be writing letters like that. But it happens. Sometimes ill write a letter that i say, i wish i didnt send it. Not too often, but it happens. Reporter mr. President go ahead. Reporter follow up on that, the acting Navy Secretary, i know you were asked about this, but i want to try one more time. He did say in remarks to soldiers that crozier was too naive or stupid to be in command if he didnt think that i dont want to comment on what he said. Its tough language, but i dont want to lets not get into that. Its tough language. There are some people that think, oh, wow, he says it like it is. Look, he made a mistake. He should not have sent that letter or he should have gone through his chain of command which is the typical way of doing it. You know, hes in the military. Hes a very important person in the military. He knows it better than anybody in this room what he should have done. Im sure he feels he made a mistake. But im going to look into it and im going to see maybe we can do something. Im not looking to destroy a persons life who has had an otherwise stellar career, as i understand it. I looked at his file just now. If we can save a persons career i dont mind going after a person if they did something wrong. And, you know, this was a mistake. He made a mistake. Im not justifying what he did. He made a mistake. Shouldnt be sending letters. Hes the captain. Hes an important person in the military. You dont send letters and it leaks into a newspaper. Of all newspapers, that was a beauty. It was a mistake. But i may get involved. Ill call secretary of defense and find out a little bit about it and if i can help two good people, im going to help them. Reporter sir, on the reporter your tone has seemed to change a little bit for the captain no, it hasnt. Reporter did somebody speak to you on his behalf. The last time, i said, you shouldnt have sent the letter. I havent changed. If its a letter, it should go classified and it should go to his superior and he reporter did somebody it hasnt changed in that regard. The only thing that has played right up here with me is that i looked at his record and hes been an outstanding person. If he wasnt, i wouldnt even be talking about this. Hes been an outstanding person. Hes had a very good military career. He started off as a helicopter pilot. They called him chopper. He was a great helicopter pilot. And then he went to f16s or f18s and he was a tremendous pilot. And then hes very smart. He studied Nuclear Energy and it was very smart. Nuclear energy is very complex, very its very hard. Very few people can do it. And he did it well. And then he became the captain of a nuclear ship. Of a replacement cost, 18 billion are the replacement costs. On a replacement cost basis, an 18 billion ship. The president gerald ford, very expensive. But theyre spending money on that one like nobody has ever seen. So he made a mistake. He made a mistake. And maybe were going to make that mistake not destroy his life. A couple of more. Reporter you mentioned okay, again, were going to sum up some of what we just witnessed that gets me to one of the other points the president has decided to get involved in this u. S. Navy matter, talking briefly about the captain of the nuclear carrier, f18 pilot, the aircraft they fly in the navy. Back up, talked about his call with joe biden. Has apparently convinced himself that we have so many as many positive cases as we do because were doing more testing now. He thanked american citizens for doing a great job. He said stay inside. But on the topic of the eight outlying states who are not part of the stay at home recommendation, he blamed that on the constitution. He said from a moral constitutional standpoint, he didnt want to recommend such a thing. He called the states localized form of government, reminded everybody again, that in his view, the u. S. Moved early by closing off china and europe which did not happen. He also defended testing. We probably have quite a few tests he said of himself and presumably the Vice President because the system of testing now is so quick and so easy. A reporter hopped on that, reminded him of the testing troubles in the country. He audibly sighed at one moment. Dr. Fauci got up briefly. He said in response to a question about when were getting back to normal, he said precoronavirus back to normal may not ever happen in this country. Though he was confident in our ability to solve the current curve. The president talked about the curve. He said people cant even believe how low some of these bumps are. Mentioned california by name. Thats what got him into social distancing. He said a lot of equipment is being moved by aircraft. He said, again, daniel dale, the factchecker of this administration, de facto, keeps finding fault with this. The president again today insisting testing is done when people get onto those planes and testing is done when people get off of those planes. Talking about air traffic in the United States which is just not true. He, again, was troubled upon hearing reporters questions that our testing was somehow troubled. A reminder to all watching, we have no earthly idea how Many Americans are Walking Around with this virus because we are not doing widespread testing as a percentage of the population. He went after jonathan carl, the abc News White House correspondent, author, journalist, said, youll never make it. Went after the obama administration, said we had no ammunition, again, when he started as president. Called Chuck Schumer a lightweight and a disgrace and relitigated the mexican border, relitigated his problem with the democratic party, said by him that checkpoints between u. S. States were fine. Clearly laid out his view of mitigation as being finite, said lets get it done. And he said to the press corps, i wish the politicians would say to you what they say to us. Peter, do we have that about right . Reporter yeah, brian, i think you do. Its a lot to digest after hearing the president speak for more than an hour. I think the most important thing, and there were a lot of things that require factchecking here, was the misrepresentation or how the president was most misleading about the status right now of testing. Certainly, the number now more than a million, 1. 6 million tests, he says, have now been completed. But as you noted, that doesnt take into account, the fact that per capita, the u. S. Significantly trails many other countries. On top of that, it ignores the fact that while the testing at this point is now significantly better than it was before, before it was abomidable. It was way behind. There were concerns about it. On the issue of the Inspector General, the president just on saturday said that in his conversations with hospital officials, he said that hospital officials said they were, quote, thrilled with the federal response. But as we learned today from the hhs Inspector General, as it relates to shortages, there are severe and widespread shortages, there are dessitesting delays. And the shortages apply to emergency supplies that officials need. So that is contradicted by the facts. The president s allies and advisers there today suggested that this report was done or was completed in conversations with 323 hospital officials in late march. Nonetheless, as evidenced by our conversations across nbc news and msnbc, as you speak to hospital officials and Health Care Workers, right now, theyre witnessing those significant shortages. Brian, youll remember on march 13th, the president stood in the rose garden surrounded by ceos of places like cvs, walgreens. He discussed an initiative that would be setting up drivethrough testing sites by the private sector in parking lots of those different cvss or walgreens. The hhs tells us that there have been 25 stateled sites set up around the country. But by the private sector, at this point, more than three weeks later, only five private sector sites, including just four drivethrough sites that presently exist. Brian, i was struck by what my experience is in that briefing room, the president who views the media in a way he thinks they should be almost like his amplifier as it were, calling out some of the reporters in the room saying they shouldnt be asking tough questions, they should be congratulating him and telling him that he is doing a great job. Its important to acknowledge the facts here. As it related to the to captain crozier who is now in guam, apparently, in quarantine, reportedly, because he has coronavirus as well, the president is trying to swoop in and say hes going to save the day, hes going to reexamine this situation because hes learned this is a pretty good guy. Earlier today we learned from our friend at the Washington Post that just one day before crozier was fired by the acting Navy Secretary, according to the Washington Post, it was said by that same acting Navy Secretary, breaking news, trump wants him fired. So it was the president who initially wanted him fired. The action took place. And now the president saying, you know, im going to look into this and see what we can do to fix the situation. Peter alexander, thank you. Lets bring in the doctor, Infectious Diseases physician, medical director of the special pathogens unit up at boston medical center. Also a professor of epidemiology at the ucla fielding hospital. She runs the ucla center for global and immigrant health where she specializes in emerging Infectious Diseases. First of all, theres a rewriting of physics that were witnessing here, the role of the states in a pandemic. Im reminded that when the vaccine was developed, it wasnt a state matter, it was a federal matter getting it to the u. S. Population, especially children. Also a rewriting of medicine. The question about testing. The president said that now theyre so quick and easy. Still, am i not incorrect that testing depends on where you live and socioeconomics, how much money you have . Yeah, i think, brian, thanks for having me. The reality is just to answer your question first, of course the level of access to testing is completely dependent on where you are in this country. As was mentioned, were still not testing as many people as we should to if we want to get to a reality where we start lifting the restrictions, we are nowhere near the level of testing that we need to get and not only that, but now we have a whole number of people who might have gotten sick and thats why this testing, the testing for antibodies becomes important. The thing that struck me throughout this briefing was outbreaks are not like earthquakes. When theres an earthquake, theres an epicenter. You set up your operations and you sort of set up everything that needs to get done.

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