Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Alex Witt 20180811 13

MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Alex Witt August 11, 2018 13:00:00

She writes. They all told me President Trump hadnt just dropped a single n word bomb but said it throughout the shows taping during outtakes particularly during the first season of the apprentice. I would look like the biggest M Imi Imbecile for working for a man like that. Start with you. Talking about omarosa and debate our glad or sad we are talking about this, this saturday morning. How does this change the picture we have of President Trump . Talking about existence of these tapes, hearing that word. Getting audio of it. How would that affect your understanding of this president . All we know is confirm what we already know. Shes essentially confirming his private conduct matches his what happened charlottesville was appalling. This is still an opportunity for the president to turn it around to turn to his Speech Writers and say, write a speech for me. Who is it going to be . Stephen mill jer . And to hire new Speech Writers. He could he could be doing make an attempt. He cannot unfortunately, because it goes to the heart of the person he has been for the first 70 years of his life, and those of us especially on the conservative side oh opposed him in 2016 and continue to do so now had a clear principle. Someone whos been the man he is for 70 years, very hard to change that. And the administration these built. Its not just about the words he says, its about the things he does. About hiring people like Jeff Sessions even though Coretta Scott king came back from the grave to tell us that was not the right choice. We know over and over again he is making Policy Decisions that right now in this very moment are putting people in harms way. There are people and immigrants in this country who did not know what theyre future holds. People jailed for unjust reasons. Every single day when he does not xwlaujust what he says puts people in danger and hes built a team supporting that. We should be making sure were putting our energy and moving that administration aside and making the progress all American People need. Talk about the ramifications of that. Alluding to it earlier. Laura ingraham, fox news host said extraordinary things last week. What she had to say about the demographics of the United States and what people have, how theyve interpreted what she said after that. Some parts of the country, it does seem like the america that we know and love doesnt exist anymore. Massive demographic changes have been hoisted upon the American People. And theyre change has none of us ever voted for and most dont like. From virginia to california, we see stark examples of how radically in some ways the country has changed. Now, much of this is related to both illegal and in some cases Legal Immigration that, of course, progressives love. Double down on that the next night. I want to get you to react. Talking how in the wake of charlottesville he talked about their being two sides. This country is split. Its been bifurcated. What do you hear when you hear Laura Ingraham . My own nauseation. My mother who came to this country with 7 and her mother lowskilled, by the way. I also hear someone who doesnt represent what conservatives used to stand up for. You know, this is an underpopulated country, the United States. Maybe youve flown from here to l. A. Look out the window. Alex Witt hosts coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. Talking point. Okay . This is also a conservative talking point, and shows how far the Republican Party has fallen under the kind of trumpingrahamsean hannity platform. Doesnt speak for most conservatives. Has an audience. Many hear her on her tv show as well. Situate that bait fse for me. Listening to Laura Ingraham where do they fall . Theyre trump supporters. Anybody who pushed charlottesville is still a trump supporter agrees with what Laura Ingraham said because were left with the people who actually do hold that racial resentment and think that what shes talking about in terms of demographics is talking about race. Right . So i agree with you that its populist and nativism but also just say its racist. Right . We have to call it out and name it in this moment, because this is one of the most precarious moments in american history. We have literal nazis in the therefore cant be real americans. This always fascinates me. People who identify at white have any opinion about immigration whatsoever. Im pretty sure Indigenous People in this country find them to be the immigrants saying who are you to set the rules for whos living in my country . Unless Laura Ingraham can tell me what tribe shes from or african nation she was involuntarily brought here from she shouldnt have an opinion on this subject. The other thing to recognize Historically Whiteness was invented in this country to capture european immigrants and give them a safety net. We know when irish people first came they were not accepted but could asimmenate into whiteness. That Power Struggle provides some benefit and other detriment. We know certain immigrants coming from certain places do not get that same protection. And this game Laura Ingraham is playing is patently racist and one in which she invalidates the claims of racism. Said what she said, a dog whistle. Bull horn. Coded language. A very loud dog whistle, coded language and then said, i wasnt talking about race. I was talking about safety. Right . Another dog whistle. But because she then places her to be the victim who is being misconstrued somehow, she invalidates all of the ways in which every single day people are dealing with racism and pretends shes tired of talking about it. More on the cacophony of those whistles blowing loudly and whether or not you plan to read the book, am roomarosa wil on nbcs Meet The Press tomorrow with chuck todd. Up next, talking Robert Mueller and the manhattan madam. What did Kristin Davis reveal in her testimony before the grand jury yesterday. Well be right back. Alice is living with metastatic Breast Cancer, which is Breast Cancer that has spread to other parts of her body. Shes also taking Prescription Ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor, which is for postmenopausal women with hormone receptorpositive her2 metastatic Breast Cancer as the first hormonal based therapy. Ibrance plus letrozole was significantly more effective at delaying disease progression versus letrozole. Patients Taking Ibrance can develop low white blood cell counts, which may cause serious infections that can lead to death. 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What it tells me is that first of all the investigative circle continues to constrict around roger stone and if mr. Millers attorneys can be credited, they are saying that the reason that hes refusing to testify is because theyre looking for a vehicle to kind of bubble up the issue to the appellate court. What issue is that . The issue of the legitimacy of the mueller investigation. Now, i would say from my perspective, this seems to be pretty futile, because multiple judges have already determined that the investigation is appropriate. The appointment of mr. Mueller by Deputy Attorney general Rod Rosenstein was lawful, done in accordance with rules, procedures and policies of the department of justice. This seems to about futile effort, maybe an attempt to delay but i think were going to see that gentleman having to comply with that grand jury subpoena. If i could ask a question. Mueller handed off parts of this investigation to others and also kept parts for himself, like manafort. What do you read into the fact hes riding herd specifically on the roger stone prosecution . Tells me roger stone is intimately related to the russia investigation and any potential contact between the Trump Campaign and the russians. Bob mueller is obviously taking his jurisdictional mandate very seriously. As you say, he is passing things off when appropriate, but is retaining investigative jurisdiction over those things that may relate to the issue of collusion conspiracy. So i think based on everything weve seen concerning roger stone, it makes perfect sense that mule zeller is retaining jurisdiction over that piece of the investigation. A lot happening. President trumps personal attorneys going back and forth with Special Counsel mueller and team about prospects of an interview with the president of the United States. Rudy giuliani described the president champing at the bit to sit down with Robert Mueller, runs in contrast with what weve heard from his counsel. Are you going to talk to mueller . Im looking forward to it, actually. Do you have a date set . Theres no collusion whatsoever. Theres no obstruction whatsoever and im looking forward to it. Were going to be the laughingstock of lawyers if we let him testify. I would say this. If i could be i would love to speak. I would love to. Nobody wants to speak more than me. Because of them we dont want him to testify because theyre not fair. Ive always wanted to do an interview, because look, theres been no collusion. Theres been no talk of russia. You couldnt put a lawyer on the show who wants it keep his law license to tell you he should testify. Youre his attorney. Go in, talk to Robert Mueller, tell the truth. I wouldnt be an attorney. Living in an inreal fanc fantas world. Would you willing to give your testimony . 100 . Turning to you as we look into this Fantasy World here. These two lawyers have been extremely busy filling in on radio shows, being guests of one another on one of their radio shows. Presumably spend some time talking to the president of the United States. What is the not just apparent but evident disconnect between these lawyers and their client telling you about the way this is proceeding . Reminded me in high school. Were going to fight, beat that person up. Talk trash before the fight actually takes place outside. Thats whats going on here. The president is sort of beating his chest and sticking it out saying im ready for bob mueller im take on that fight but hes not going to testify. This is essentially spin on the part of jay sekulow and Rudy Giuliani to essentially set it up to pull out of whatever interview may be arise through subpoena or request to the president. I think this is spin for media, for us to discuss. Going back to roger stone. Sure, go ahead. A moment. Hes at the center of the collusion story. We often skip over him and talk about others like manafort and rick gates. Understandably so, but russia had multiple entry points into the Trump Campaign and one of them was roger stone. The only person among this group of other associates now, the ones that have pled guilty or are facing indictments, hes the only one weve seen his messages with guccifer 2. 0 and know he was communicating with the carveout of russian intelligence leaking emails through the campaign. I think were going to see even more evidence come out and when the Special Counsel, interviewing everybody who knows you, thats a bad sign. Not a good one. Stick with the school yard analogy. I suppose twitter is the mechanism you can make those threats. Saw it in fine focus this week. You had the president insulting lebron james on twitter, insulting don lemon as well. A few hours later hopping on a plane going to ohio and his tone changes entirely. The bully operates like that. A lot of talking, not ready to talk the talk. They like to come up against people you really dont want to fight. You dont actually want to fight with Maxine Waters or lebron james. Trust me. Here we are, all you have is your mouth. All you have the chance to run your mouth because the substance isnt there. We know that because of the probable cause that led to his number of indictments. We know that because the other shoe keeps dropping then the other shoe keeps dropping and the other shoe keeps dropping. Clearly, theres a there there and you want to distract and have that conversation. What real people are saying at barber shops, beauty shops around kitchen tables, im not going to read all the details of this stuff. Just tell me when its over. Tell me when we can impeach him and which social media platforms not to trust with my is there a danger . That level dangerous as this plays out . That may or may not happen. The odds are probably will not. Yeah. Happen at least in the next couple years . It can be dangerous but we have understand what its rooted in. We already talked in the last segment all of the ills and dangers people are dealing with under this administration. Be clear. Those ills are not new because of this administration. They are, hover, exacerbated because of this administration. People say is my factory job going to be there in six months . Will this house be complex actually support me in the ways i need . Those are questions people are dealing with. They dont have time. They know ive been lied to and dont want to be lied to again. Brittany is putting her finger on something important and essential to the president s strategy. Essentially, create like a fog machine. Right. Onstage. I mean, its incredibly difficult even for those in the News Business to follow day by day, hour by hour every single twist in the mueller investigation. Whats appropriate . Whats not . Whats a fisa court . How were warrants obtained. All of this is meant to essentially create a kind of black hole in peoples minds so they say, i dont really care. This is just washington talking. What i care about no collusion. No collusion. A term we should never use. All use the term conspiracy. The legal and there is conspiracy, the legal term of art. But thats essentially what they prey on. And it goes back to nixon. Look, nixons fate would probably have been different if there hadnt been an oil crisis in 1973. If the economy had been strong and growing, in his second term it would have been a different story. I think thats what trump is banking on now. If the economy continues to do relatively well people will tune out and say, this is washington and television talking. I dont want to hear about it. Quickly, you have fog lights on. That is his strategy to i dont go to too many barber shops but his strategy. Doesnt mean its a good strategy. Yeah, in the polls i want the investigation to end, its ticking up. But doesnt matter for mueller. What matters the actual indictments and facts. I guess its the only cards to play to create this me asth as measthma. Well come back to you later in the show. Stick around. Up next, the president just out with a tweet on charlottesville. Details on that after the break. Door Bell Rings its open hey. This is amazing. With moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, are you okay . Even when i was there, i never knew when my symptoms would keep us apart. So i talked to my doctor about humira. I learned humira can help get, and keep Uc Under Control when other medications havent worked well enough. And it helps people achieve control that lasts. So you can experience few or no symptoms. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. 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