Talking. That much is clear. Its showing bipartisanship. That could mean decisions on the border wall and immigration coming up in the very near future. Start today with our reporters in the field. Kelly odonnell at the white house for us. Garrett hake on capitol hill. Equally confusing. Start with kelly. The president s had a few chances to talk about this. Hes tweeted about it. He does seem to imply theres some kind of an understanding, use that word and throw it out regard stream of consciousness rolling conversation today talking about different parts of all of the attention that has come to this deal, agreement, conversation, discussion. However we want to frame it. But whatever came out of the dinner with senator schumer, leader pelosi and the president is certainly getting peoples attention. The president is suggesting theres wide agreement to try to do something to give protected status to the dreamers or the those who fall under daca. Those who were brought to the United States without documentation. Have lived here their whole lives. What would that be . Hes saying, not citizenship. The dream act provides for citizenship. A discrepancy there and the president deferring in consideration of a border wall until a later time, but talking about extreme, massive Border Security. Border security is something democrats could get onboard with, short of a wall. So is there a way to find a compromise here . Certainly seems to be ingredients for it but then you get the republicans who have all of the control over what is or is not presented as legislation. Thats something where they get to exert power and you heard it in a subtle way from paul ryan. Who talked about the president calling him from air force one. Kind of, the timeline if you will, saying, there is no agreement. Mitch mcconnell today also talking about the fact that the daca issue should be part of a broader discussion about illegal immigration and what to can do in the longer sweep of these issues. Its didnt complicated for a long time. Theres been a lot of pressure politically to try to resolve the issue involving the daca young adults now, many of them. The president saying he has heart for them. Even after being one of the most vociferous antiillegal immigration candidates weve seen in the modern era and the president risking, angering, even sort of inspiring and inciting his base by talking about this. So the president tried to cool it off a bit today saying, no amnesty. It really will come down to how to people define this if a deal is in the making. Seems like progress in the discussion, conversation however they want to describe it. Something is cooking here, ali. Youve done an excellent job, you always do, about straightening this out and removing some of the confusion. So now just to balance things out, take it to the u. S. Congress, or garrett hake is standing by, where it appears on this issue of daca confusion reigns. Confusion is the word of the day. A whole spectrum of response to this news. Particularly from republicans on the hill, from the most conservative, many refuse to stop and discuss the issue with me, as they were leaving town today, to paul ryan, seems to be splitting hairs on this. You heard him talk about this isnt a negotiation. Its a discussion. Ask him to fine tune what turn as discussion into a negotiation, i think that might be a difficult thing to answer. On the senate side, there seem to be republicans seem to be taking a little more pragmatic approach to this today. I heard over and over from Senate Republicans i spoke to was, sounds like this is a deal to make a deal. An agreement to negotiate in good faith towards something. And by and large, republican senators i talked to were supportive of that idea. So long as they dont get boxed out of it. Remember, republicans fought very hard to become the Majority Party in both of these houses and want to make sure theyre writing the rules, theyre the ones driving the bus here, to change metaphors. Heres senator john kennedy from louisiana talking about this earlier this morning. Im comfortable if its a if its something that republicans would support. In louisiana when we negotiate, one side gives up something. The other side gives up something. I mean, we can make deals all day long if we just agree to whatever our friends on the other side of the aisle want. But thats not a deal that would be good for the american people. Im not saying that thats what the president has done or would do. It doesnt bother me a bit that he is, hes reaching out to our democratic friends. I think thats very healthy. But its got to pass muster for those who might disagree with the final deal. Reporter the last part is key. Kennedy likely speaking for other republicans there saying, look, its perfectly okay for the president to reach out to democrats. His job. End of the day, its our job, republicans in the senate to write and produce the bill. What they intend to do. Thank you both. Appreciate you both, but appreciate you particularly today, because this has been very hard for me to navigate. Thanks to both of you. An inside perspective on this. Congressman Roger Marshall is a republican from kansas who joins me now from capitol hill. Congressman, thank you for being with us. I appreciate this. You got unique insight into this, because your district in kansas, i understand, is one of the biggest agricultural producing districts in the entire country, and it does rely to a great degree on some of the people who might have been these Daca Recipients . Thats right, ali. We have some 80,000 open jobs right now in kansas. And a lot of these are immigrantrelated situations. We have maybe 12,000some daca kids as well. These are just, just arent numbers on a newspaper article. These are real kids. These are friends of my children. These are brothers and sisters of the kids ive delivered over the past 25 years. One of the things that that gets to people is some of the characterization, not just of these people, but what their effect on the economy will be. I want to show you this from breitbart a little earlier today. It said, Daca Recipients currently hold upwards of 700,000 u. S. Jobs. And ultimately end to the program with Daca Recipients not getting amgsty resulting in a 700,000 job stimulus for American Workers. This would amount to nearly 30,000 new u. S. Job openings for American Workers every month once the program is officially phased out. That is tantalizing, sir. How do you respond to that, to people who say get these guys out so that americans can have these jobs . Ali, doesnt make much sense to me. I spoke to dr. Ben carson about a month ago and he said we have 5 million open jobs across the country right now. And the problem we have in country is actually a lack of Skilled Labor force. Thats the problem. So theres finally open jobs. If these 700,000 people are not in the job pool, 550,000 open jobs in the country now. We have a shortage of work supply right now, of lab arers. Can you tell me for those not as familiar with it across the country, how immigrant labor works in to the kansas economy ask what are the jobs they do and why is it that it requires this sort of labor to get those jobs done . Sure. First of all, the Fastest Growing dairy in the country. Dairy, milking cows is very, very labor intensive. And people dont realize this. We have to milk our cows two or three times a day, seven day as week, 365 day as year. A laborintensive situation. I visited dairy in kansas, they deliver about 30 bull steen calves every day. Maybe five or seven workers for that particular part. When it comes to feeding cattle, big feed lots in kansas as well. Also very labor intensive. Out in the general farm work, whether its planting wheat or harvesting hay, we need lots of laborers as well. Obviously we cover politics a lot on msnbc. The stuff i talked to kelly and garrett about, how this it playing out on capitol hill is intriguing. Do you as a republican particularly care that this is something thats being worked out with both republicans and democrats, or that the president is talking to democrats about it . You know, im a very much a laserfocused person. I Want Congress to do their job. Look in the mirror and figure out a solution that the president has given us six more months to figure out daca. I think it can be done and am very happy the president is bringing it to everyones attention and making us talk about it. Happy bipartisan discussions are going on. Great discussions in the freshman class on the house side about immigration issues. Talking stab a program with a simpler labor force visa program for agriculture as well. Its a prudent topic now and im glad were talking about it. Appreciate the time youve taken to be with us. Roger marshall is a republican congressman from kansas. Thank you, sir. Thank you. All right. The daca story has been a hot button issue for conservative groups. Bringing in joe pollock, Senior Editor at large at breitbart news. Thank you for being with us g. To be with you. I want to read again the thing i just read to the congressman. From breitbart earlier today where it talked about, let me read it again bp daca resilients hold upwards of 700,000 u. S. Jobs and ento the program not getting amnesty results in a 700,000 job stimulus for American Workers. Nearly 30,000 new u. S. Jobs once the program is officially phased out every month. Ive read it twice. Its well written. I think if i were going to make that argument, thats how i would write it. The fact is, joel, the u. S. Economy is more dynamic than that. Right . We know we create at least 150,000 job as month, 180 or something the last couple of years. Its not really an apples to apples comparison. Get rid of 700 or 800,000 daca, there are that many new jobs . Thats correct. Illegal aliens in cases are competing with american citizens for jobs and the president promised supporters in 2015 and 2016 he would take care of that problem. There are many Trump Supporters who might be willing to accept some kind of deal on daca, but it would have to be in exchange for a border wall, and verify employers arent cheating the system and for the act changing our immigration system to focussing on skilled immigrants and not unskilled family chain migration. So there really is a question here of where the president s priorities are, and i think that question is an open one. Look at some polling on this. Using politicos polling. No matter whos you look at its not too different. If you look at everybody in america, about 58 think that they should allow people to stay. Democrats 71 . Republicans 46 . Independents 56 . Even if you look at the number of people who think the daca people should be deported, even among republicans, its at 24 . A narrow slice of the republican and conservative side. Isnt it worth a horse trade for the president . Well, asking the question in terms of deportation is setting up a straw man. Difficult deporting these people. Another question is should these people be allowed a path to citizenship . Put it back up. As youre talking kpepeople cane t. Over the last decade as weve seen Congress Struggle with the issue. One, most americans want some of the people here illegally to have some ability to stay in the country. At the same time, most americans want there to be a sequence. We have Border Security first. Before theres any legalization of people here illegally. The problem with the terms of the deal or deal about it a deal that was discussed by democrats and the president last night is it puts those things on an equal playing field. Has them on the same timeline. Daca gets passed with Border Security measures. Worse than that, the wall comes later. Yeah. Thats the reason the gang of eight bill was rejected by republicans in 2013. Because it didnt have the proper sequence of security first, legal status later. Go to Border Security. Understood. You can actually get democrats behind. But thats not a wall. Is that a because i think, look at the headline you had on breitbart today. Amnesty done. Trump caves on daca. Wants quick amnesty for 800,000 illegal aliens. Are you on the right going to turn against the president if he gets much of what he wants, better Border Security, in exchange for daca . There are three deal breakers for trumps base, when it comes to a daca deal. The first is path to citizenship. There can be no citizenship for people who are brought here illegally, even if they were children. Maybe some kind of legal status, maybe even permanent residency but no citizenship. For a variety of reasons. One, we are being unfair to legal immigrants including myself and my family who came here legally, if we allow this illegal status to be legalized. Another is, once the daca children are citizens, through no fault of their own they were brought here. Why allow them, then, to legalize their parents . The people whose fault it is . Citizenship is a deal breaker. Two other points. The border wall has to be in the deal and come from any legal status for Daca Recipients. Cant get that wrong. Republicans did not reject the gang of eight bill only to have President Trump pass what president obama couldnt do. Finally, theres the issue of the wall itself. Has to be funded. Cant separate these two issues. Trump seems to think, well, were going to do this in a separate budget aappropriations process. Once you have daca passed youve lost all your leverage to get the democrats to come onboard in that operations promise and can back out of their promise, lucy pulling the football away. And the three deal breakers. If trump allows any of those three to be whatever part hes coming up with you will see a big revolt by his supporters. Just quickly, ask you what does that revolt look like . You can see breitbart, cant make sense of it hearing steve bannon and the president say theyre working together and steve bannon criticizing the president. What does a revolt look like . The pages of breitbart filled with things that attack the president . Well if you want to see what its starting to look like, look at the Alabama Senate race. Trump backed the candidate Luther Strange losing to the conservative candidate roy moore, whos got a lot of backing from Trump Supporters. Youre going to start to see that conflict shape up. More broadly, i think you could see the emergence of a primary candidate from the right challenging donald trump. The idea that bill kristol and some of the never trumpers have they can come up with a centrist primary challenge to trump, theyve worked on a long time. But these ken tryst challenges dont work. The only that had affect, ones that come from the partys base to punish concessions or capitulations. You can see it from the right. Well continue this discussion. Joel, appreciate you taking the time. Youve dropped a lot of nuggets here we have to pick up on and will continues continue that. Senior editor at large at breitbart news. A turn here and look at live pictures right now of President Trump arriving back from his trip to florida. He has been to fort myers and to naples visiting with First Responders and government officials to determine how best to move forward in that response. Now, nbc news has confirmed now at least 69 deaths due to Hurricane Irma across florida, georgia, South Carolina and the caribbean. New video shows nearly 20 tons of relief supplies headed to the British Virgin islands, an area seriously struggling to get food, water, firstaid and most notably electricity. Residents there say theyre starting over, from the ground up. My cohost on velshi and rhule caught up with one of those residents just moments ago. Stephanie ruhle. No electricity. No water. My estimation, about 95 of our electricity gone. Whether in town, whether on the ground, but all head lines that connects villages, its gone. Its gone. Wow. All right. Stephanies granted access by a mobile Communications Provider digicell to tour with specialists and engineers. Stephanie talking about it. Until you got there how does what youre seeing on the ground square with what we thought happened . The amount of damage in a place like bartola . Reporter so much worse. Devastating is not the answer. From the time we arrived, first, the airport was completely empty because it was closed except for a few rescue planes coming to really bring aid. Within minutes of arriving the u. S. Embassy put out word they were bringing in a e relief plane so people could evacuate and suddenly the airport was packed with people and we saw military officials looking for american citizens, and the roads were crowded with people trying to get to the airport to get out. Now, on those roads, every car i saw, the windows were gone. The windshield was gone. And then we made our way in and the main city in tortola, its decimated. This is hurricane season. Just two weeks ago the mountains were all green. Its completely burnts out. It looks like there was a massive fire but its across the entire island. Everything is twigs. Theres not a leaf to find, and then you look behind me. This is the moorings, a marina common to anyone who p ever vised the Virgin Islands and almost looks like a boat graveyard. Boats sunk, catamarans one on top of another. I was with a local boat builder. Noticed not many boats were in the water. Had people pulled them out . No maam. Either sunk or blown so far on to dry land or out to sea well never see them again. Something i want to point out, every person who i sat down and talked to, you know, they were working. They were cooking, cleaning up. I assumed theyre houses were okay. Wow. You must feel really lucky youre okay. Every person i talked to said, maam, ive lost everything. My house, my car, but everything that counts. Every person i spoke to. They said, i have my luhave my. Communities are coming together. The telecommunicationsky put together an ngo, turned offices into a shelter, distributing food. You dont see much military. When i speak to people around they said the