Breaking his plea deal on a variety of subject matters. Last hour the white house denied the president did anything wrong. I dont think the president has any concerns about the reports because he knows there was no wrongdoing by him and there was no collusion. The president has voiced his unhappiness from the beginning this has gone on, this ridiculous witchhunt, more than two years. Still nothing that ties anything to the president. Wed like to see it come to a conclusion. Theres a lot there. To get the latest lets start the hour with nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. Pete, good afternoon. Good afternoon to you. So the guardian somewhat softened the account of the meeting. Now saying it was apparent meetings between assange and manafort in london. But it also says it has no idea what the two men talked about. The timing here is interesting, 2013 and 2015, well before the Trump Campaign, times when Paul Manafort was actively lobbying on behalf of the russianbacked government in ukraine so he might have had reasons to talk to Julian Assange about that. Then the third meeting they said was in march of 2016. Thats the same month when Paul Manafort was named to manage the Republican Convention for the Trump Campaign. So again, no confirmation from manaforts people, no comment from them at all, no comment from the ecuadorian government. We asked the embassy in london. Weve asked the embassy here. Weve asked the ecuadorian government based in quito. But we have had responses from santhias lawyers and heres what they say, the lawyer for Julian Assange no such meetings happened. Total fabrications. Wikileaks has put out a denial. Thats true. Wikileaks put out a tweet saying they would bet a Million Dollars and the head of the editor of the guardian that manafort never met assange. So what we have is a report from the guardian weve been either unable to confirm or say it didnt happen about something that may or may not be important. Yep, well, well have to keep on digging on that one. Thanks, pete williams, nbc news justice kpant. Sticking to the wikileaks portion of the investigation, thats how the emails got out there. Lets expand our view to the other players involved. Mueller is also investing roger stones confidante coresy. A far right conspiracy theorist considered to be the founder of the socalled birther conspiracy against barack obama, the one in which he is said to not be born in america. The special counsel is investigating stone and corsi for what they knew before the release of the hacked democratic emails during the 2016 elections, most notably those belonging to the chair of Hillary Clintons president ial Campaign John podesta. Just hours ago, nbc news senior investigations producer Adam Schefter finally sat down with gentleman roa jerome corsi. He told her never met with assange. Also joining us are nbc news vepgti Investigative Reporter tom winter. When these two are with me, you know something is up. You were supposed to be talking to jerome corsi. He arrived downstairs, in his car and he said nope, were not talking. His lawyer shut it down. They called his lawyer and said do not do anything. They were in the midst of negotiations over a plea. He was offered a plea and he has rejected it. So this is actually going to make his life a lot more complicated. Hes in hot water. But big picture, we actually got all of the Court Documents, everything the government gave to his lawyers and it showed that he had there were ee maims between him and stone leading up to the john podesta email and they couldnt wait to find out what was happening. Stone suggests he actually goes to see assange or their friend in london, another farrighter, go to see him and corsi actually passed on that email to the london writer. We dont know if he actually went or not. Have you got some of that interview we can listen to . Absolutely. Weve got a clip right now. Okay. Lets listen to it. When he said time to let more than podesta be exposed in bed with enemy, if theyre not ready to drop hrc. What does that mean . Well, i was saying to stone that i thought these were going to be so damaging to hillary, as they had been to Debbie Wasserman schultz, that the democrats might want to say hillarys sick and old and get rid of her because i believe these Podesta Emails would destroy hillary. Why did i think they were coming out in october . Because i said to myself, if i had these emails, id use them as the october surprise. And why did i think they would come out drip by drip is because assange is very strategic, he nerss t understands the news cycle. But you didnt know that at the time. It was speculation. You didnt exactly write to him it would be drip by drip . No, i did though explain that to him. There are phone conversations i had with him. But you essentially told stone exactly what was coming up. Yes. Wow. Thats an interesting defense. I got it all right because i guessed really well. Thats exactly right. And then he explains being in the room with these prosecutors and how theyre just completely incredulous. They dont believe him. Its an incredible story that he just figured it out. And hes been telling me this all along but now we actually have the Court Documents. We know that he has been given this plea negotiation. They want him to plead guilty to one count of misstatements that he lied to investigators about communications with people close to assange or people trying to get information with assange. The big picture here is that you have this core group of people who were desperate to find out what assange had and they were willing to go to great lengths. In fact, corsi even told me in that interview he would have loved to go and fly over london and meet with assange, he just didnt think he was likely to get in so he didnt get on the plane. I wonder, tom winter, if anna will get stockholm syndrome hanging around these conspiracy theorists. Take us out now if anyone can be impervious to it, its anna. I agree. Lets take this to the Bigger Picture now, robert mueller, whos interested in what donald trump knew and to what degree there was any coordination with efforts to discredit Hillary Clinton, whether or not there were russians involved, where does this piece that anna has fit into this . I think first off, the thing thats really interesting here is first off these are public statements. So anything that corsi has said today that we published thats aired from annas interview is something that its a statement that can eventually be referred to in some sort of a document. Two, i think its very interesting according to the Court Documents anna was able to obtain in the plea agreement theres no Cooperation Agreement thats part of this, which i think is telling. It means either they dont need Jerome Corsis operation for continuing this investigation or maybe they dont trust what mr. Corsis going to say. We dont know yet from prosecutors. I think the wikileaks question is a big question because of these tweets, because of these Text Messages and these emails and documents and things annas been sharing with us now for the past several weeks because you want to know if youre a prosecutor, you know, you want to know first off, whos behind all of the troll accounts, social media stuff . We kind of answered that, according to their indictment, thats what they say happened, the indictment back in february. The summer we got a little more clarity as far as how this hacking occurred, who are the people behind it . What was a little bit of wikileaks response dating back to july . So moore has kind of gone around and said we have to answer this question that happened. We have to answer the next question. The one outstanding is the Podesta Emails. We dont have a lot of clarity from any of the indictments weve seen so far as to who is behind this. I think thats the next question that needs to be answered. The legal activity and discussions taking place and documented by anna and others that weve seen over the last several weeks i think it moving towards that for mueller and i think its an important question he needs to answer, did anybody on the trump team have any knowledge of the john Podesta Emails in advance of them being published by wikileaks . And, of course, the ultimate question is did anybody in the Trump Campaign direct or were involved with the release of though emails which came out a half hour, hour or so after the access hollywood tape. Thats remarkable. Thank you very much to both of you. Where can we see the rest of that interview . You can find it online. We will post it online and then we have a full story that goes through all of the revelations and court document. Its worth getting your head around this. I know everybodys brain is full of this stuff but this jerome corsi is quite a character. I want to bring in the assistant u. S. Attorney in the district of columbia, msnbc legal analyst. Cynthia, thank you and i want to welcome you and take this even one step higher and that is what we are able to do is take these timelines that were getting and super impose donald trump and the comments he made. Separate and apart from what jerome corsi knew and what wikileaks had and what roger stone had, we had the president of the United States concurrent to all of this going out in public and talking about emails and talking about leaks and talking about wikileaks in particular. When put it all together, it would seem unusual the coincidence of the timing. Right. First of all, theres not a prosecutor in america that believes in coincidence. So we start with that. The corsi thing i think is really fascinating. And reports that youve got today have advanced the ball. Hes going to be indicted pretty soon and what we hope happens is that mueller uses one of those speaking indictments to flesh a little of this out for us so we can get more of the story and so that more of the story is out before the attorney general has a chance to do anything to shut it down. Let me ask you about the manafort development, the idea Paul Manafort, that the cooperation is not working, the Mueller Investigation has now accused him of lying to them after entering into a Cooperation Agreement. Im having trouble getting my head around what would be in it for manafort to do that. You know, a lot of people are into the conspiracy theories. I have to say, theyre fascinating and they draw me in a little bit. But ultimately my judgment is the guy is just a liar. Hes a drifter, and when it comes to continuing to admit things that he had done wrong, he just wasnt willing to do it. But that doesnt mean that the time that he spent with mueller is not valuable time for the investigation because he was still getting information. And on your timeline theme, you remember it was ten days ago that mueller said or 11 days ago, that mueller said were going to have to have an update in ten days, were not really there yet. And then trump turns in his questions, and then on monday the whole thing blows up. Now we have a sort of interesting question that comes out, two little nuggets come out of that. One is muellers going to file a sentencing report, which at some point may become public, which will include information about it will be like a speaking sentence report about what mueller knew and what he lied about. That may turn out to be very important, a, for us to advance the information. And b, to protect the information so the attorney general cant shut it down. Thats one nugget. The other option the other nugget out there is today theres a report that giuliani is talking about a joint Defense Agreement between trump and manafort. As a matter of ethics and policy, there should not be a joint Defense Agreement once manafort started cooperating. But this crowd doesnt go by ethics or policy so theyve continued to do it. If thats true, and manafort was feeding trump answers that he had been given, trump may have relied on that information when he answered his questions. So its just one more branch in this incredible tree of information that were all trying to absorb and assimilate. Thats a good way to put it. We are all trying to absorb and assimilate. You cant even go to dinner because theres 19 breaking news. Theres a lot here. We appreciate your help in analyzing it. 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This is about where they can get to and then they start hitting a ceiling really quickly, really fast in mississippi. Heres what it looks like, that 41 compared to Hillary Clinton in 2016, she got 40 in mississippi. How about barack obama, you just heard his voice, 2012 he got 44 , 2008 he got 43 . That 2012 number, thats about as good as it gets these