Out of adjectives and things to say, but you had someone earlier that divide quite a description for the president. There was a bus full of members of congress that were ready to go. I thought it was a caravan. And going to visit troops in a war zone something the president could do more regularly. You have a photo op, and it also does a lot for moral, it does a lot to inform policy, these trips, whatever you think of what you see of the person on the ground, they are very important. I have been on delegations, but it is how you learn by being on the ground and talking to people on the ground. Should you go during a shut down, maybe there is debate for that. How do you feel about the signature, its giant. Thank you, friend, thats the signature. Were going to start with that news, President Trump just suggested, more than suggested, that nancy pelosi should fly commercial to a war zone to visit troops. It was just after she said he should delay hit tas of the Union Address or submit it in writing. Im sorry to inform you your trip has been postponed. We will reschedule when the shut down is over. Lets start with Kelly Odonnell at the white house. This is yet another question about executive authority, congressional authority. He controls the ability of nancy pelosi to make that trip on a military air graft as a congressional dell addition. They are typically bipartisan. Theyre a big part of congressional life, and they take members of congress around the world to allies, adversaries, and they are usually where we have seen some of the most important friendships with forged that work for the good of the people. The john mccain and Hillary Clinton friendship was cemented on some of these kinds of trips. The next deadline for federal employees paychecks being missed it coming up and the planned trip would have kept the speaker and other members of congress out of the country at that time. Because of that they want to postpone that trip. It is true they are usually done on military aircraft. She could certainly visit commercially. And of course she is second in line to the president , she would fly commercial. For a military plane to be used it would have the president s authority to allow that. That is where he is able to have a tool box that we were not anticipating in this shut down to make a point. It follows a day plus after she pulled the plug using her authority on the planned state of the union for january 29th. You have two different kinds of power plays using the available resources that come with the authority of these two important resources. The speaker controls the invitation to the house chamber. The president has control of the military. All congressional delegation trips are off during the shut down. Other trips, davos, strex, the World Economic forum, there will be a delegation that still travels to that but not the people involved in negotiations. So there is a difference there, and this is snag is getting attention that is sort of putting a stop on something that the speaker planned to do that has a lot of positive benefits. Theyre considered a way for the u. S. To not only meet troops but allies and important figures around the world. Theyre an important part of what members of congress do. The president book the breaks on this today. I believe Lindsey Graham just tweeted something. I will get it for you in a minute do you have what he just tweeted. I will have it in a second, but i can also talk why im typing here. You see graham complaining about the threat to cancel the state of the union calling it irresponsible and plblatantly political. I expect that were going to hear more about that. Were expecting the speaker to leave the capital around 3 00, so any minute now, we just saw our chief deputy that called this ridiculous and petty. I expect you will also hear democrats pointing out the contra contradictions. The president says of course you can still go, you just have to fly commercial, but theyre saying no, the point is she has to be here to negotiate. Secondary seco secondarily the president went to iraq during the initial shut down. It looks incredibly political on behalf of the president here, and you know look, frankly as kelly laid out, these trips are shrouded in secrecy. You certainly would not talk about it if youre going to a place like afghanistan. I dont know if this would have continued anyway. But this, just by putting this out there it is an enormous breach in an of itself. And im sure there will be plenty of republican defenders that see this as a wondery response to nancy pelosi saying the Defense Department is fully funned, but the state department is not. It makes me think that any actual solution is still a lot further off than anyone would like it to be. Denying nancy pe he will si military travel. It makes reference to a trip to brussels. This is about nato and troops, where do we stand on this right now . Do we know what immediately is happening . The impression they was left with it that there are phone calls and things happening, a weird form of diplomacy to have a letter on white house letterhead go out as congressional members were on a buss to go to the plane. This is all happening in realtime. The house is out, they were supposed to be done for the week. We thought this trip would start at or round 300. There was a bus out that has depart d. I mean i cant say enough how much this caught everyone a little flat footed. It is unclear whether or not this was a policy decision on the back end of this, if anyone was informed they would be not allowed, or if the letter, the notification from the president , was the sum total here. We just didnt know it was happening in realtime. We have what Kevin Mccarthy just said, lets play that. I think government is shut downright now. I think it is an opportune time to work and get Government Back open. But the Defense Department is still employed why would you want to go overseas with the government shut down. If we dont get this back open they could miss their paycheck again. We could get back together, it would not take long, and solve the problem. They canceled this trip. The letter is only in reference to madame speaker, but as you said all congressional delegations are cancel d. Was there any other owner ths, n this one, that was canceled in. Yeah, the speaker is in charge of all of them regardless of party, the speaker is always in charge, it would make sense to be addressed to her and her alone because of that historical relationship and the way that is organized. But it makes sense to me there would be other trips planned, and they often include senators, too. In this instance, we have just eyes from our colleagues on people getting off of the bus that is Democratic House members if t is often very evenly split especially when you talk about going to places that involve issues like nato, investigation, where there is an American Military presence. It is also important for those that want to visit their own hometown members. Thats the bus that were looking at that has the congressional members on it that left the capital and now has gone back, we understand, to the capital with those members on it. Kelly, sorry to interrupt you. Go ahead. So we expect there would be other trips, we will have to run all of this down. Were in a breaking news mode where were all teaming up making calls to a number of sources. I had a call they could not answer because we were on air, i will let you know when we come back what that was able. Theyre using the levers available and playing out in a way that is revealing how the saw damage is made in washington. Some of it is not particularly attractive and we have seen that playout. In past shut downs we have covered shuttle diplomacy, numbers are being crunch , debates are being held, and nonof that is happening here. It is wall, no wall, and not much conversation as people are experiencing in realtime. Federal employees and all of the other ripples. Halle just sent an email that says if they asked madame speaker to stay in the country and not go overseas does that mean theyre interested in a conversation, and hogan gitley says she has an open invitation at any time. I think we just want a little context here because there are some who would say that this feels sophomoreic to have sent the letter with the people on the bus. Some of these things are not publicized for valid security reasons, but then maybe this was not the way to handle it now we all know that the congressional delegation was on their way to information and e squipt. Put this in perspective for me regarding a shut down and groegss that have not been under taken in any meanleful way. Youre not the first person to use the word sophomoreic to describe it. For the negotiations themselves, there are none happening right now. I mean none, Nancy Pelosis press conference today, she was asked about this. Would she continue to talk to the president , she said look, the last time i spoke to the president is when he put his hands down on the table and got up and walked out of the situation. There is no new ground given or taken and the is not even a situation where we have staff level negotiations going on here. Both parties are at zero here with the president s point having been wall or no open government, and departments making the argument that you cannot have a responsible debate about Border Security or anything else while the government is still closed. You see the twinswings being ta back and forth here. Now this action. This is not part and parcel of putting pressure on one party. There are conversations happening right now. It is extraordinary in that sense. A note that halle just sent. Halle will join us in a moment with the latest, she will have the latest. Hi, yeah, so the response from the white house is that nancy pelosi has a standing invitation there and theyre aware of that. She welcome any time to come talk about Border Security. This whole thing, and forgive me i have not been tuned into every twist and turn, let me hit the highlights that i know they have been working on as well. Just to put it in framing here, less from the white house perspective about funding because the department of defense is funded for these military aircrafts, more about nancy pelosi physically being present in this country to be able to negotiate. Again if there is no negotiating sessions on the calendar for this weekend, how do you break the impasse here. Is a big question. Were also working to find out whose decision this was, who came to President Trump and said Speaker Pelosi has this trip coming up. It is unorthodox to say the least. Im sure in the history of presidencies and conflicts with congress, but the way this went down, just give us some sense of it from the white house per s perspecti perspective. A bunch of members of congress got on a bus, thats the way they got there, going to joint base and rues where a plane was ready to take off when this news occurred. What happened on the white house side . In fact they were spokes to leave at three, white . This letter was sent over to Speaker Pelosis office and then released publicly. Unauthority dox is ternly a word for it. Think about it these codels happen all of the time. There is staff that goes to these sometimes. What is unusual is what appears to be this tit for at that time. They have pushed back that this is the president s move, of course this is a power play, this is a move from the president to try to counter Nancy Pelosis disinvite. They are sending out an email to raise money off of this disinvitation if you will. Another point if there is concern about folks leaving the country in a shut down, there are changes about going to davos, the treasury secretary is still going. Yeah, i just asked about that, the plans as of now are not changed. The people going are not directly involved in these negotiations to reopen the government. President trump will stay back as well as secretary nielsen. They are saying Speaker Pelosi needs to also be in the country here. Theyre looking to a tuesday night payroll deadline that she would have been gone for, ali. One of the things that im struck by is that the campaign he has been disinvited. Speaker pelosi says it is not disinviting, suggesting we reschedule, they say theyre not cancelling the foreign trip, they are postponing it, so even has we are living in the real word of how this is playing out, there is sensitivities about how theyre playing this out. Part it is that goes to the core of how this stands out, it is an existential quality. The wall is the trump presidency, it is the wall. The resistance is that for speakspea Speaker Pelosi. There are not things they can say what can i do for you, what can you do for me. So to the extent that her election, her reelection of speaker of the house would be the biggest thorn in trumps side, all actors are playing out as we expected. If i have to interpret on the fly, i could not ask for anyone better. We will of the stay in quick touch with you once anything else develops. I also want to quickly look at the dow. You will notice that about half an hour ago there was a major spike in the dow on a report that the United States was considering lifting sanctions, trade barriers, and tariffs against china. We have not been able to corroborate that and when asked the treasury secretary did not have an answer that suggested he had any announcements to make so that has been cut in about half. This is the investor world. A rumor goes goes out there. And they settle in. I dont know what the truth of the rumor is. We will keep a close eye on it, a sudden spike there that the sanctions may be lifted, we dont know and we cannot confirm that to be true. I want to focus on the other major story of the day. What i did was at the direction of and for the soul benefit of president donald trump. Today Michael Cohen confirmed that he paid a tech firm to rig online polls in trumps favor before the president ial election. He is already going to serve three years in prison. In that case, we got some hints about todays big development. Starting balk in august of last year. They are listing cohens charges. In it he asked executives for a reimbursement for hush payments to stormy daniels. An additional 50,000 in handwriting, it represented a claimed payment for Tech Services which related to work that cohen solicited. The company was not named in the finaling, but the company was red finch solutions. Cohen asked the owner of that company to manipulate cnbc polling to get trump ranked into the companys top Business Leaders back in january of 2014. A area laddyear later, h so finchs owner went to collect the 50,000, cohen surprises the man by giving him a blue walmart bag containing between 12,000 and 13,000 in cash and a boxing glove that mr. Cohen said was worn by a brazilian mixed martial arts artist. He said there is still a problem. These services, and that 50,000, could be another Campaign Violation the Trump Organization about declined to comment. I would not comment either. We have ken delanian you cant make that up con respondent. Yes, this is Michael Cohen, the fixer, making secret payments on behavior of trump. What they didnt realize is that the rules change when you there a president ial campaign. Particularly with the 2015 payment, they were testing the waters, he had not declared formally yet, but he later declared, and experts tell me that should have been accounted for as a tam pain expense. We know from the documents that they know chapter and verse about these, they decided for now not to file charges from that. They charged him and he plead guilty to paying women and he said he did that at the direction of mr. Trump. This is another example of a secret payment. So it is unseemly and the whole brazilian mixed martial arts boxes glove is just weird. Briar to an election, where do we stand on if it is a Campaign Violation. It is a gray area, and the 2014 basement cant be construed as an expenditure. He is clearly exploring a run for the president , there is a federal Election Commission doctrine called testing the waters. Any money you spend in that period, if you later decide to run you to account for it. That doesnt seem to have been done in this case if sounds like the kind of thing that would normally be a civil fine, not a crime, but bizarre, and particularly the part where he had a twitter account i didnt even bring this up, im not sure if our control room can take this, had a twitter account created called women for cohen. Women o who love and support Michael Cohen, strong, pit bull, sex symbol, did you ever think in your career that you one day would be on television with a guy like me talking about stuff like this . Only in my wildest streams. This is why you watch. Honestly, thank you my friend, im glad youre here, i would not know what to do otherwise. This is beyond my capacity these days. Lets continue this conversation. Less than 24 hours before this b bomb shell, Rudy Giuliani was denying something his boss claimed over and over and over again. You tell me if you can spot what he keeps saying. Are you considcerned thiss supposed to be about Trump Campaign russian collusion. Gone, its gone. He is cleared. I said there is no collusion and therefore, and collusion is no crime, i have been saying that from the beginning. Is it still the position of you and your client there was no collusion on behalf of the Trump Campaign. I never said there was no collusion between the campaign or people in the campaign, i have no idea. Yes you have. I said the president and the United States. I never said i was bald. I dont even know where to go, beyond the obvious comic relief here, it signals two important things, first serious worry about trumps vulnerability. Joining me now are two of my favorites, states attorney and former congresswoman li liz holtsman. And