Investigation is stronger than barr suggested in his letter to congress summarizing muellers findings. The president responded with a tweet attacking numbs number of times saying the paper had no legitimate sources. Sarah sanders defended the attorney general. I have full confidence in the attorney general and his assessment. Hes one of the most respected members of the Law Community in the country, and i think hes laid out clearly what his assessment is. Reports of tensions between muellers team and the attorney general came hours after the House Judiciary Committee voted for authorize a subpoena for muellers full and unredacted reports. House democrats says the frustration of the special counsels team are further proof that the report needs to be made public. The fact that there are people who have participated for the last two years and now believe the report is being mischaracterized or undercharacterized in terms of what it has to say, is further compelling reasons why the report needs to be fully released to the American Public and to the congress of the United States. Lets take a closer look. Nbc news intelligence and National Securities reporter ken dilanian joins mess now. What does this mean that they are from us trailed by the fourpage summary . Yes, this is reporting about, nbc news and there is a couple that theyre frustrated that william barr stepped in and provide nunsed when it mueller didnt do that. He said he didnt come to a conclusion about whether there was a prosecutorable case. Theyre also frustrated that they believe barr underplayed the strength of the evidence, and the report by mueller has more compelling and nuanced evidence than was suggested in barrs summary. The Justice Department has not pushed back on the substance of that. What they pushed back on today on the statement is another aspect of reporting. Or sources say that the mueller had readymade summaries that barr could have released what the Justice Department is saying is thats not instrument. Every page says it may contain rule 6c grand jury information that cannot be made public. We dont know what the truth is, but thats what the justice depend is saying. We kept on getting indications from frank fuglusi, he was certain the way bob mueller works, that he would have handed over to bill barr information that could easily and without translation and summarization be made public. Barr in his letter to congress didnt feel it could be a summary because he thought he couldnt do justice to a 400page report. Barr said its not a summary, but didnt release the same information. He said its not a summary, but its shaped the narrative. Look, the bottom line, in fairs in, ali, no matter what the team says about this, it will not change the bottomline legal conclusions, which is that the attorney general has pronounced the president clear on both the conspiracy aspect and object stubs aspect. Hes a trump appointee who criticized the investigation before he came to office. The reason mueller was hired is he was supposed to be independent, and thats one of the biggest questions here. Why did Robert Mueller not make a decision on obstruction of justice. Its pretty clear he and barr agreed there was no criminal case on collusion, but what about obstruction . And its a strange conclusion that barrs summary came to that, there could be obstruction if the underlying crime wasnt proved. That at love of legal experts continue to tell us thats not sound legal reasoning. Ken, thank you. Joining mess now with a deeper look, and how its playing, capitol hill correspondent and host of ca kasiedc and kellie odonnell. This comes a day after the House Committee approved a subpoena for the full unredacted Mueller Reports. Tell me how that plays out. Thats right, jerry nadler has the authority to send the subpoenas basically whenever he would like to. Theres a sense theyve been waiting on the Justice Department to see if they were going to change their mind, mover more quickly and show them something. That it actually seemed as though they were giving full transparency. What i will say this new reporting has done here on the hill, ali is ratchet up the split wall pressure and receipt ricks coming from democrats. You know, quite frankly, when this summary from the attorney general was released, there was a widespread perception this was definitely a win for the president. Its pretty clear that political speak thats exactly whats happened, but there was less emphasis on the sections that did not, of course, exonerate the president. If you have this discontent with the investigators who, you know, were working on this many report, its given democrats a significant opening. You can tell how thats going on because of how the demands are evolving on the thinking was his words would speak for hemselves. That changed a bit today. Take a look at the exchange he had with one of my colleagues. I think there was certainly evidence to obstruct justice. Whether it rises to the level of catherine intent, i dont know, but thats why we have to see the full report. Reporter does this highlight the need for mueller to come in we obviously will have to see mr. Mueller, but first we have to see the report which would form questions. Reporter that of course our colleague who has been covering the investigations up here along with the rest of our team. As you can see there, mortgage of the suggestion that while perhaps we need to hear about this from the special counsel himself. Certainly there have been the more political minded democrats up here on the hill, who always called the attorney general a figure who was too political, but the Committee Chairmen have been careful in how they choose their words. Kellie kellie odonnell, this seems to be getting away from them. Reporter and for democrats using their power that is within their control to press on these issues, theyre painting them as disgruntled and effectively not wanting to let it go. Thats the tone were getting. The president s outside personal counsel has said some of those voices that came out through kens reporting about a certain dissatisfaction about the way the report was portrayed by attorney general barr, theyre somehow disgruntled. Theres confidence here in how the attorney general is looking over this process of the report coming to him in whatever degree of transparency we eventually get. Here is how Sarah Sanders characterizedsed all the pushback thats been coming. The people who have been involved in this process, they wasted two years of their life and they need to find a way to validate it. They lost in 2016 and now theyre looking for anything and everything they can, because they have no message. They have nothing to talk in contrast with them. The only idea is to attack the president. Clearly its not working. Hes doing quite well and so is the country. Reporter so you get a anyone still talking about the Mueller Report is somehow trying to reopen an old wound and not pursuing something legitimately. While we know we will have weeks, if not months, of dissection of this reports, pressure points back and forth on pennsylvania avenue from congressional oversight and whatever barr decides to do in making elements or the entire report public. Kelly and kasie, thank you to both of us. Lets look at this from the legal perspective. Joyce vance, shes now a professor tess university of Alabama Law School and an msnbc contributor. Joyce, lets discuss a couple bake things here. First of all there were things in the letter that william barr sent to congress he says would redact for reasons. One is 6e, which is grand jury testimony, and then the fourth one was characters, thirdparty people and their names. Theres some legal discussion about those two things. Where are we in the process of redaction that william barr says hes continuing to work with the special counsel on . I think the toplevel conclusion that we can reach from this whole kerfuffle is this only resolves when the American Public sees as much of the reports as its possible to release. As you know theres some items that have to be held because, classified information, information about ongoing cases, that all needs to be protected. But whats wrong here is barrs reliance on grand jury material, which cant be publicly displayed without an order from the judge who organized that grand jury, or who ran the case. Thats an order that the Justice Department could have easily obtained. It has come to many analysts as a surprise they did not have that order in hand timed for the release of the Mueller Report. So for the attorney general to come out now and say we need another 12 days, were engaged in heavy redactions, and we cant give up summary that is mueller clearly prepared with an eye to Quick Release because of the grand jury . Thats disingenuous. Because there was no there couldnt have been interference in the investigation, that doesnt seem to make sense. Its not logical. At a legal principle, its untrue. That should make sense if you think about it. Obstruction is effort by a criminal to keep a crime from coming to light, so you cant actually prove the crime, because the obstruction has been successful. I think the attorney general in all fairness wasnt reaching that as his bottom conclusion. He was saying that he had considered that. I dont think its an propose factor to consider here. Unless ear looking at accomplice cal considerations. Let me ask you about an article you wrote for slate talking about an attorney general to restore independence and no mar barrs intention, the appearance of ingratiating himself with a president whose desire to install a wingman means the Public Perception will always equate barr, if confirmed, with trumps desire to hold himself above the law. There will be no Public Confidence. Such a significant loss of Public Confidence will inevitably erode the credibility of the departments i wish i had been wrong and bill barr, who has the reputation of being a principled person, as institutionalist, this is in no way a dig at him. The problem is perception has a way of becoming reality. Because his path to the attorney generals job included this 19page memo that prejudged some of the fundamental issues, namely obstruction, in the mueller investigation, it would be difficult for the public to have confidence in his outside come report, no matter what it was. Now were seeing that in action. We hope that he will work hard to , but hes a little damaged. Joyce, my viewers also enjoy when youre on, so youre not going away. Were going to come back to you for your expertise on an unrelated topic. Dont go too far. I wont. Thanks. Its the biggest single workplace immigration raid, the arrest of 280 employees, this as the president walks back his threat to close the border. First, a former tech executive. His top priority is universal basic income, gaining popularity. Andrew yang is here to tell us why he is running for president. Im going to talk to him right after this break. Ent. Im going to talk to him right after this break dso should the way you bank. 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You ask folks who would you be voting for . , this is the average. Joe biden, he continues to lead there, sanders, harry, orourke, one of the questions with the fundraising numbers, do they tell us about strength with one of these candidates thats not necessarily threat actually match up pretty well. One that does jump out a bit, is pete buttigieg, obviously oning at 2 per. S he is bringing monday in. The other metric, these who are they curious about . Who are they interested in . With that exception, hes number two there actually in his field. Maybe thats become nobody heard about him. The other significant, no, ali, fun raising is now an official part of the criteria for who gets into the one of the rules is if he can get 65,000 you make the stage. One of the names thats not listed here may well be on the stage because of that. Andrew yang has been raise theyre going to hit that threshold and that would put him in debate. You set that up beautifully, steve car neki. 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What i would say again, we need to solve the and the best person to beat donald trump is someone who can peel off 10, 20, 30 of his voters. So i can get the progressives, i can get the democrats, the independents, conservatives. I can build a coalition that will beat donald trump in 2020. You have written a book about why universal basic income is our future. I want to dig into the policy proposals that are getting the most attention. An dry yang, socalled freedom dividend. 1,000 a month, no Strings Attached to every american over the age of 18. How will it work . Im going to ask him, after this break. But what i do count on. Is boost® delicious boost® high protein nutritional drink has 20 grams of protein, along with 26 essential vitamins and minerals. Boost® high protein. Be up for life. Sometimes you need an expert. I got it. And sometimes those experts need experts. On it. [ crash ] and sometimes the expert the expert needed Needs Insurance expertise. Its all good. 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People already receive benefits could have a shoot. Ineligible to receive the full 1,000 in addition to current benefits. So if you didnt qualify for youre talking about the he idea of good job, lots of demand. But one day in the future when they become a reality, it actually will fall off the cliff. Thats the future youre talking about. We will have more people than work. Yeah, americans can see that in our main streets right now. So we have to wake up to the fact that were in the midst of this right now. If you imagine that everyone in the country is getting 12,000 a year, as a apparently, we all know what that would mean. Grau rates go up, Mentality Health improves hospitals visits go down, and we can make this happen. This is capitalism where income doesnt start at zero. We can art it. What does 12,000 mean. How does that meaningfully change somebodys life. A household with two adults, 24,000 a year would be a game changer. Right now 78 of americans are living paycheck to paycheck. 50 cant afford an unexpected 500 bill. And so if you have 1,000 a month coming in, and you can look at your son or daughter and say, when you turn 18. How do you pay for it . If were going to be the big winners. Its going to be amazon, google, facebook, and we all know that amazon paid zero in taxes last year. I would submit its not their fault, but its our fault. We have a valueadded tax that would