United states. Nbc news justice correspondent Pete Williams has been following this and joins me now with details of the latest. What do we know about the story . Doesnt appear to be specific attack plans and this soldier talked about possible targets and never had any actual plans. Hes 24 years ole. His name is Jarrett William smith. A private Army First Class at kansas and according to Court Documents the fbi said he started talking three years ago about fighting in ukraine with a Paramilitary Group and joined the army two years ago and even after joining the army the fbi said he was posting on a chat room on facebook instructions on how to make homemade bombs, improvised explosive devices and instructions to use a cell phone to detonate such a device. According to the fbi, he then in august began talking to a man who he thought was a likeminded person. But who turned out to be an undercover agent for the fbi. And according to the fbi and the Court Documents, he said that he might want to attack smith said he might want to attack members of the antifa or a Major News Network headquarters. The name of the news network is blacked out in the document so we dont know what it is. And then in a conversation about eight or nine days ago, the fbi says, he told the undercover further instructions on how to make explosive devices and at one point the undercover asks him, you got any targets down in texas that would be a good fit for an attack . And according to the Court Documents smid said, out of beto, i dont know enough people relevant enough to cause a change if they died. Thats an apparent reference to beto orourke who said about taking Assault Rifle from people. Orourke said hes been in touch with the fbi and they take these threats very seriously. He said this isnt this is the campaign. This isnt about one person or one campaign and we wont let this scare us or cause us to back down in fighting for whats right. So the charge here, ali, is distributing information about explosives. Its illegal. He could face up to 20 years in prison, maximum sentence. Thank you, pete. All right. When is it enough . Thats what congresswoman talib asked moments ago. At the center of it is a whistleblower complaint claiming that trump pressured ukraines president during a phone call to investigate his political rival joe biden along with bidens son hunter. Now that the white house is stonewalling congress from obtaining the complaint, House Democrats plan to fight back. On thursday, the acting director of National IntelligenceJoseph Maguire will testify in front of the House Intelligence Committee as to why he did not pass along the initial whistleblower complaint to congress in the first place and in a letter to her colleagues on sunday Speaker Nancy Pelosi warned that if the white house continues to block efforts to obtain the complaint the administration, quote, will be entering a grave new chapter of lawlessness into a new stage of investigation. President trump today seemed unfazed. Mr. President , how seriously are you taking the impeachment talk . Not at all seriously. We had a perfect call with the president of ukraine. Everybody knows it. Its just a democrat witch hunt. Hi they failed with russia and recession and everything. And now theyre bringing this up. All right. Joining me from capitol hill is jeff bennett and hans nichols at trump tower in new york city while the president is in town for the u. N. General assembly. Jeff, what is happening on congress about this . There are people who have said this feels cant believe im saying this again but a bridge too far, feels like the thing that has really got congress now serious about the fact that the president has done things that are entirely inappropriate and needs to be taken to task formally for it. Reporter rank and file House Democrats i think sound increasingly inclined to move toward impeachment now that President Trump is admitting to do some of what he is accused of and i think the view held by the democrats is that if President Trump used his president ial powers to in effect invite a foreign power to meddle in our election and if he held as held up as a bride military aid that was approved by this congress well then, in that case this congress would have no choice but to move to remove him from office. That said, though, the colleague the Dear Colleague letter you referenced is still talking about investigations. Not impeachment. And we have seen this sort of semantic dance before and this is something where certainly words matter and so shes saying if the acting director of National Intelligence shows up here on thursday for that hearing and doesnt turn over that complaint she still saying that that represents a new chapter of the investigation. She is not moving toward impeachment but look. This is an area where i think frustration is pal p shl. You have some democrats who have said that the slow moving pace of this investigation so far is ineffectual and makes them look weak and so today theres a proimpeachment rally held. Al green was there, as well. I asked him not just about the timeline to see democrats take action on this but this unintended consequences of not holding President Trump to account. Heres what he told me. Im for impeachment. Im not for simply looking into it. I think we have had enough of investigations. I think we need to move forward. We will at some point reach that Tipping Point where people will conclude that this is politics, that its not principle. Reporter so the view that he and many other rank and file democrats have is that if congress does not move now the balance between congress and the executive branch will be forever altered and there will be few if any checks and balances left. Ali . Thank you. Hans nichols, hows this playing with the president . Reporter we had the strongest denial or defense yet of the president of the United States as it relates to the ukrainian phone call. Listen kcarefully. He is not denying that a phone call took place or that they discussed joe bidens family and the investigation but listen to exactly what the president s denying and then well have a chat on the backside. So joe biden, very dishonested, when you see the call, i hope you sigh it, frankly, you will find out that i did not do that at all and very disappointed when you see it. Its disgrace. On the whistleblower, you said you want the transcript of the call released. I didnt say that at all. I didnt say that at all. It may get released. I dont think its a great precedent to be releasing calls with foreign countries, heads of foreign countries. I dont think its a great precedent. I didnt say i was going to release it at all. Its a great call, honorable call, a nice call. The Ukrainian Government last night very strongly announced that the call was a very nice call. Did he just say that . Strongly that the call is a nice call . Reporter well, he may be referring to a something that the foreign minister said in local interview i believe on saturday where he said it was a smooth call and that was the readout from the Ukrainian Foreign minister. Again, this is them their take on a relationship with a country that ukraine clearly needs and thats the United States but the president s denials are about a quid pro quo. He did not explain whats on the call and hinting and a hint, not a promise, that they may release the transcript of that call. Ali . All right. Thank you both for your reporting on this. For facts sake, look at what we do know about this. Despite President Trump and Rudy Giulianis repeated allegations against the bidens, no evidence of wrongdoing tied to joe biden or son hunters ukrainian business is found. Its a complex one back to 2004. I want to walk you through it. President trump has repeatedly suggested without any evidence whatsoever that joe biden used his power as vp to pressure ukraine to fire the countrys top prosecutor viktor shokin. He was a former general prosecutor of ukraine investigating the owner of burisma that hunter wokked for. At the time, the former Vice President biden spearheading u. S. Efforts to tackle corruption in ukraine. A position that was supported by other western countries and many within ukraine. Criticism grew against the decision to serve on the board but he was a private citizen at the time. However, despite President Trumps claims, the former prosecutor who succeeded shokin said he saw no wrongdoing. Joe biden said he never spoke with his son about the work and adding President Trump is creating a false Smear Campaign against me and my family. The president and Steve Mnuchin pushed back accusing biden of lying again without citing any evidence. All right. I want to bring in bradley moss whose firm represents the whistleblower who filed the complaint to the intelligence communities Inspector General. Bradley, thank you for joining us. Good afternoon. This is you know, President Trump talking about a thing without any basis or fact but then disclosing or hiding the fact that he was on a conversation with the president of ukraine talking about something else. Yeah. Well, the president s certainly trying to frame a narrative here and been the selective leaks of what the substance of the disclosure may or may not have been. Theres been no leak from the whistleblower and from the legal team representing the whistleblower confirming any of the details of what actually was the full universe of claims outlined in that whistleblower complaint and validated by the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community but now the president with the leaks and appears to have involve this communication, this phone call with the ukrainian president trying to say theres no big deal with it. I had a nice, lovely call with him. People need to wait and they need to let all of the information to come out before they render judgment on what happened here. Okay. What is the responsibility of the Justice Department who got the complaint or the director of National Intelligence or people in the like, what has to be done . When you say people have to wait, i agree with you. But from whom do we get this information . Yeah. So the interesting thing here is normally speaking we would know nothing about the complaints. This mechanism, the process by which this come pro sesz is must be itted it is the Intelligence Community whistleblower act. Its from the individual to the Inspector General. If the Inspector General finds it credible which happened here, might remember that Inspector General appointed by President Trump, if that Inspector General finds it credible it gets transmitted through the dni to the congressional committees. The information itself is still classified. The public generally knows nothing about these submissions but because something was done different here, because the dni got guidance from the doj and withheld the complaint from congress now we know whats going on and a political fight over how to handle this inherent tension of the two branches of government. What should happen . In a really good world that worked efficiently, what should now happen . The complaint like any other circumstance where its validated sent to the house and Senate Intelligence committees. The individuals there who have access to it are still bound to maintain the sanctity of classified information. They were in violation if they leak the details to the public and violating federal law. But people, we have no idea who they are, probably from the white house, National Security council, leaking out the details to frame a narrative and none of the substance is confirmed yet because its held secret and confidential by the whistleblower. So this is the issue. The one thing thats been referred to about the whistleblower is that President Trump president tweet . That was not intended. The whistleblower was highly partisan. We have now created a world in which everybodys looking for the whistleblower and this whistleblower has a Scarlet Letter for better or for worse for being partisan. That cant be a good thing. Horrible. If this person is out, i know a lot of the media trying to figure out who this person is, their career in the Intelligence Community and the government itself is probably over. They didnt break any laws but they will have that Scarlet Letter on them. Theyll never be employed again in the u. S. Government and all they did was follow the law to raise the concern about what they saw. They could have been the most partisan person on the planet. It doesnt matter. The statute doesnt care and the Inspector General appointed by this president validated it. Bradley moss, thank you for joining us. A National Security attorney whose firm representing the whistleblower who filed the initial complaint to the Intelligence Communitys Inspector General. All right. 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Big believer in clean air and clean water and all countries should get together and do that. And they should do it for the themselves. Very, very important. The u. N. Summit comes days after a dozen democratic and one republican president ial candidate took part in Climate Forum 2020 at Georgetown University in washington. They answered questions from chris hays and me and from College Students from around the country about what they would do to fight Climate Change if they were in the white house. Washington governor made Climate Change the central issue out campaign before dropping out last month. While he was not at the forum, his name came up a few times. Whats the thing that it looks like to you to make sure that everybody understands that this is an emergency . Well, first, head of a epa that believes in the epa and believes in Climate Change. Thats day one. Secretary of energy that has the same vision that i have, that our leader new leadership will have about where we need to go. I think the Climate Change czar is a good idea. You know . Maybe jay insly. Who do you reach out to immediately when you become president . To get this done. I think probably a big argument between 49 states and washington state. Its going to be we want jay insley. No. We want jay insley. He