Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20170102

MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin January 2, 2017

Media. These are apparent apparently taken from Security Camera footage. We still dont have a name to go to with the face and there is no official update on the status of the manhunt for this attacker. Turkish police are telling nbc news this attacker fired off more than 100 rounds inside this night club, that the attack lasted seven minutes and one of the people who was shot was american jake raak. We spoke to him a little while ago. Heres what he had to say. Somebody said that there were shots fired and i initially did not believe it. And until i saw the gunman and he started shooting up the whole place. He was walking on a bench above my head where my head was underneath. When he shot me, i didnt move. I just let him shoot me. I was shot in the hip. The bullet traveled to my knee and lfs lodged in my knee. I was probably the luckiest thing, i was very fortunate. I was with dying people. Seven of us were shot. Just some terrifying stories coming out from witnesses and survivors in this attack, one report we havent been able to verify is that people were jumping into this very cold water, the night club backs up on to the bosphorus. We understand that jake raak from delaware is the only american believed to be wounded in this attack. No americans among the dead according to the state department. As i said, halle, the investigation, the search for this attacker is still ongoing. Still intensifying. Kelly cobiella there from istanbul. Well willing following this story much more throughout the hour. For now we turn to politics and new video from president elect trump showing the greatest hits from the campaign trail, prom e promising to put it all in place starting january 20th. Kristin welker is in new york. President elect is back in midtown manhattan today. This russia stuff, he says he has new information that other people dont. What are the chances that we, the public, know what the president elect knows . Reporter he says hes going to reveal new information over the next 72 hours, halle, but he was really pressed about this by reporters to give more specifics. He wouldnt do it. We know hes going to have an intelligence briefing at some point this week so we anticipate that brief will go happen and thenll give that information he has. But shawn spicer, his press secretary really turning up the heat and defending the skepticism on this. The president elect is going to wait until the information is final, until he can make the clearest judgment on what to do in the best interest of this country. Hes not go to politicize intelligence and decide to shoot from the him before he has a complete picture of whats happening. This is setting up a potential fight with congress in the new year because you have democrats and republicans saying they dont doubt the intelligence. A number of them saying this is essentially an act of war by russia. You have senators like john mccain and Lindsey Graham saying they would support tougher action to be taken. So tough words on capitol hill as president elect returns here today. I want to play some of that sound we were just talking about from donald trump and talk about it with you on the other side. Listen. Tes are coming down, regulations ar coming off. Were going to get rid of obama ca care. Were going to have strong borders so that when people come into the country, theyre going to come into the country legally, which is the way we want it. We will build the wall, you know that. Were going to get things running properly. So, kristen, none of that is particularly new from what we heard, you heard and i heard from donald trump on the campaign trail. What is new is the gentleman holding the statue of what appeared to be a bald eagle next to him. You saw donald trump vowing to get rid of the Affordable Care act, build a wall. Theyre all pledges he made while running. With president obama heading to capitol hill this week, talk about the potential political fight there. Reporter oh, i think there are going to be a number of big battles between what president obama tried to put into effect and what the president elect is going to try to undo. Obama care is going to be a huge legislative battle, ha halle, n doubt about that. The question is what will the president elect and Congressional Republicans put in place. Thats going to be the challenge in that regard. But, look, the incoming press Secretary Sean Spicer saying that on the first day the president elect will move to overturn a number of the executive actions that president obama has taken on things like immigration, some of those regulations that republicans have railed about for so long. But what weve seen in recent days, halle is the commander in chief trying to cement his legacy on these key issues. Take a look at the list that weve compiled, criticizing israel pofor more settlements. You have donald trump saying thats going to change on january 10th. You have banning oil drilling and ordering more monuments and transfer of detainees from guantanamo bay. The president elect is signaling hes going to move on day one to try to overturn a number of those actions that the president has taken, halle. Kristen welker, live in front of trump tower, back in manhattan this morning. Great to see you. For more, i want to bring in congressman jim himes, a democrat member of the Intelligence Committee. I want to start with the attack in turkey. How surprised are you that isis is now claiming responsibility for this . Whats jumping out to you . Not surprised at all really. An attack in turkey is almost certainly going to be either a radical element of the Kurdish Movement or isis. And of course turkey has a little late to the game of course really joined the fight against isis. So sadly this is not surprising and i also sadly think this is probably not the last one of these that we see. It obviously wasnt the first either. Weve been here before. Is it that intelligence physicals are missing something . Is that it you cannot foresee these kind of attacks at all . Where is the missing link here . Im not sure i would think of it that way. A huge, organized conspiracy that involves lots of people on phones, getting emails, getting training but one individual, whether that individual is acting in turkey or in orlando or in San Bernardino is very, very hard to pick up, which is why these inspired attacks, and we dont know enough yet about the istanbul attack to know exactly what it was, but when some individual who is angry, who is alienated get inspired by something that they see online, sadly were going to have to get used to the fact that that is a very, very difficult assailant for our Intelligence Community and our Law Enforcement to prevent if theyre motivated enough. Have you as a member of the Intel Committee been briefed over what happened this weekend in turkey or no . We have not had a classified briefing on this. Congress is out of session until tomorrow. Most of us, at least, are not as briefed as people in the administration and Intelligence Community are on what we know. On the topic of intelligence, you are saw president elect trump say he has information about this russian interference in the election that other people do no have. Do you think hes right . Does he have info that maybe you know or i dont know . As the president elect of the United States who is about to become president , i would hope hes more current than pretty much everybody out there. Of course the implication is that he knows something that perhaps could reverse the narrative, which the Intelligence Community has largely agreed on since october. The cia and fbi and Intelligence Community didnt come up with this idea two weeks ago, they blew the whistle on this in october. I suspect based on what i know and he may very well have more information, but i think as more and more information comes out, its going to be that much more interesting as we learn the breadth of this effort, who was involved and how many individual in the United States were actually pinged or attacked by the russian government. So then, congressman, is it your prediction, if you will, that come next week after the president elect gets this briefing that he might be singing a different tune on russia . Lets see. He said on tuesday or wednesday he would let us know. Im as intested to know as anybody else what he knows that nobody else does. The bottom line is h has from the beginning and this has been absolutely shocking to me, from the beginning he has delegitimized our 70 or 80 billion a year Intelligence Committee saying these are the folks that brought iraq and that is not true, and he said they got it wrong and he stood up for the kremlin. The other day he was on twitter calling putin really, really smart. For those of us in government, we have no idea what is this guys motivation to trash his own Intelligence Community while complimenting what is probably, you know, in our top global adversary. A lot of us are scratching our heads on this issue and i dont think next week brings any new revelation that reverses the narrative here. Congressman, before i let you go, want to talk about congress coming back into session. The Affordable Care act is front and center. You have the president coming to the hill, nancy pelosi and others coming. What are the options considering youre frankly outnumbered in the house and senate and you have a president elect promising to repeal it. How do you pick this battle . I hope what we do is that we run that video that you ran about three minutes ago of the president elect standing in a private club that costs hundreds of thousands to join amidst champagne and caviar and women in 5,000 ball gowns and says were appealing the Affordable Care act in palm beach, florida. What americans need to see there is where and who said that and who is going to be affected. 20 million to 30 million americans are now covered with Health Insurance because of the Affordable Care act. And by the way, it not the americans that were at maralago on new years eve. Its americans struggling to get by and what jus happened is somebody in a private club in palm beach said we were taking away your Health Insurance. By the way, if theyve got something to replace it with more cheaply and efficiently than we have today, im all ears. Ive been in congress eight years and ive never seen one proposal that would provide the kind of Health Care Coverage that would be provided by the american care act as a proposal from trump or any other american. Congressman jim himes, appreciate it. Donald trump think that ssn hack could be sebody else. Lets talk more about what he mighkn that the rest of the public might now. Plus while a lot of us are grinding it out at work today, many of us are coming home. Well get a look at the road home today. Befi was active. Gia, i was energetic. Then the chronic, widespread pain drained my energy. My doctor said moving more helps ease fibromyalgia pain. He also prescribed lyrica. Fibromyalgia is thought to be the result of overactive nerves. Lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. For some, lyrica can significantly relieve fibromyalgia pain and improve function, so i feel better. Lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. 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Robert, lets start with you. We heard the president on the front steps of maralago speaking with reporters talking about the russian interference in the u. S. Election saying he has other information people dont know about, et cetera. Why wait to share it here if youre donald trump . Happy new year. Perhaps he has something new that obviously were not privy to. As to why he hasnt released it yet, i dont know the answer to that. This president elect loves theater, loves drama. The only thing have i to give you is examples all throughout the campaign where he talked about the birther certificate and said he would make an announcement at trump hotel in washington d. C. He knows marketing, knows theater and knows how to keep people in suspense. To press you on that a bit, youre saying word like theater, drama, marketing. Those are word appropriate when were talking about National Security and does he have to put that aside to deal with serious issues . Hes got millions of lives and billions across the world invested in him. Yes, you have to put that aside. Youre talking about peoples lives, talking about National Security, talking about geo politics all around the world. So, yes, he should put this aside and take this very seriously. I presume hes doing that but we shally. Shall see. James, what do you think of this . Is the burden on them to prove on the president elect to trust and assess the intel hes given. I think thats the question. It seems to me that president elect trump is trying to chart a different course in the interfact between the office of the president and cia and other intelligence agencies. That could get really complicated really quickly in the sense hes got to rely on them on a regular basis for information. If hes saying publicly he doesnt trust the information sources, it erodes the stability of the institution in the eyes of the public but think about those individuals who have to put their lives on the line to collect this information if their leader is suspicious of them or publicly embarrasses them, it set up an antagonistic relationship. It doesnt bode well for policy on the future of intelligence. And the histrionics of the president elects transition, that does not bode well for the world in which we live. We can talk about marketing and president elects flair for dramatic but when it gets down to brass tax, is he going to be credible and capable of doing those things in his own administration. I want you both to listen to what the president elect said about the role of Cyber Security in his administration and well talk about it after. Listen. We have something really important, write it out and have it delivered by courier, the Old Fashioned way because ill tell you what, no computer safe. I dont care what they say, no computer is safe. James, to you first, what is your just initial reaction to that from the president elect . Its absurd. That statement is absolutely first of all, halle, have a press conference. Stand before the American People and allow the media to ask questions instead of you just sort of leaking out these little bits of information, different commentary. Thats absolutely absurd. This might play well to his base or might play well to certain aspects of his base but to state the obvious, which is that computers are vulnerable to cyber attack and then to undermine that by suggesting something about Carrier Pigeons is absurd. All americans should want to get down to the bottom of tampering with the election is absurd. I dont know that he was joking. Hes saying its 2017, talking about delivering things through currier, et cetera. It seems eyebrow raising to say the least. I think hes got a point. If you want to take him seriously for a moment, hes right. No computer is safe. We know that through the wikileaks and the dnc hacks. But theres a large are point raised a few moments ago. It appears that another country tried to influence an american election. That is chilling on so many different levels. Whats also chilling is that we have people how the there that call president putin brilliant and smart and so forth. This is a man who used to head the kgb. This is a man who the president elect called him that, robert. So my point simply is that we have to take this very seriously and we have to take i dont even understand why were having this conversation. I think any logical person with just an Elementary Education would say that computers can be hand and that another country tried to influence our election. Thats the point that i think the plek was trying to make. To handle the business of the nation via courier, i mean, how did you take that . Okay, i think he was trying to be a little cute with words. I would have not used that phraseology obviously, but i think his larger point was that we are vulnerable to Cyber Attacks and perhaps maybe going back to a more traditional method. I remind you before we had computer, we had nuclear technology. Before we had computers, we had other issues in terms of how we communicated with foreign leaders. I think hes trying to say theres an opportunity here for to us rethink our technology and to make sure that were safe. Robert traynham and george peters, thank you both for being with us today. This is a a live look at dallas airport. Well have a look at your Holiday Travel the week ahead. And president obama tries to protect his signature legislation, even as donald trump promises to undo it. 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