Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20170919

MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin September 19, 2017

Sovereignty as well as criticizing what he kaumsz the enemies of the humanity and the wicket few. No question it was north korea that was his top target. The United States has great strength and patience. But if it is forced to defend itself or its allies we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. Rocket man is on a Suicide Mission for himself. And for his regime. Peter alexander is outside the u. N. Here in new york so peter, afterwards the president told reporters that he thought that speech went very well. That he said what he had to say. Tell us a little more about those north korea comments specifically and the reaction inside the room. Were hearing from Senior Administration officials now reacting to the speech. One telling nbc news the report were, quote, subversive in the best way. Flipping the outdated wisdom on its head. Telling nbc news that the on topic of north korea deterrence prevents war. Played the sound byte about rocket man. Similarly comments threatening if u. S. Or its allies are threatened, there was certainly a because in the room as the president delivered those remarks. Also when he said some parts of the world would be going to held. That gathered little bit of because in the room as well. Notably north korea that by lottery had been placed in the front row today. The delegation left in advance of the president s remarks, effectively boycotting the speech. One junior delegate remaining at the room at the time. Whats notable as we assess the president s remarks when he entered he was asked by reporters what was the message to north korea. He said that it would be a message of peace. Here is part of what he said as the president tried to cast this all through the lens of his America First presidency. Take a listen. As president of the United States i will always put America First. Just like you as the leaders of your countries will always and should always put your countries first. But we can no longer be taken advantage of. Or enter into a onesided deal. Where the United States gets nothing in return. As long as i hold this office i will defend americas interest above all else. The president talking about a onesided deal appeared to be references the Iran Nuclear Deal with the deline to certify it again. It was notable when the president made haze remarks calling the deal not just oneside but an embarrassment. It was the Prime Minister of the israeli, netanyahu in the room w who was nodding approvingly. He was the one who initiated the applause in the room. Throughout the course of the applause where the room was packed. A muted applause when the president arrived. Bigger applause for the thoughts about every country being able to stand up for itself and womens empowerment but a lot of to room was a little stunned by the frosty of the remarks. It was an emotional reaction in the eye of some of the diplomats to the president s comments. Peter a alexander here in the United Nations as peter was giving his report there the president left trump tower. Hes headed back to the u. N. For a lunch meeting with Antonio Gutierrez, the secretary general of the u. N. Again weve got eyes and ears on that. Well go there if there are some news worthy comments made. Christopher hill has served ads an ambassador four times. Including south korea. Parses being with me on this afternoon. Chris. What do you make of the president s, shall we say, combative talk about how we could again totally destroy north korea . I think the president thinks that using these kind of terms will get the North Koreans to think twice, perhaps back off. I think the danger is it really spooks the south korean publicatipublic, the People Living within range of the north korean artery. Hes trying to be making a supportive statement how we will handle things with our allies. Hes trying to tell the north korean, look you are playing with fire. But in the fullness of time i think there will be a view that maybe he actually stepped over the line with this. I think it is not going contribute to essentially the element of the strategy that is absolutely needed and that is greater chinese willingness to do its part. I think what needs to be done is a much more intensive but behind the scenes conversation with china. And im not sure these kind of public statement, which certainly i think cast the president as someone who doesnt do business as usual and will be impressive to people who have really been critical of past efforts. I think it is going to create i think more difficulty for the diplomas going forward. And i might add not that the north koreas dont deserve those words. It is just the tactical question of whether it is the best way to proceed. Ambassador burns, do you share that sentiment . I think that President Trump is certainly right to say it. He he should say as all american parking lights have said that if we are attacked the United States will defend our self, our ally, our forces in the region, our country. No question about that. I think President Trump was also right to call out those countries that are trading significantly with north korea and not helping to coerce north korea, move them towards devotions. That was a message to russia and to china. But the United States has never our best president s, our toughest president s have not been bombastic and shrill. And we want to position ourselves as a peacemaker. As a country that is willing to defend itself but not looking for war and that is the mistake in rhetoric that President Trump made today. You cannot imagine franklin delino roosevelt or eisenhower or Ronald Reagan making the statement so easy about destruction and war. We want or the more steely and determined. We dont want to give him the propaganda and advantage that he surely will try to take in the speech. In addition the president also made some news with regards to iran. This is part of what he said. Take a listen. We cannot let a murderous regime continue these destabilizing activities while building dangerous missiles and we cannot abide by an agreement if it provides cover for the eventual construction of a nuclear program. The iran deal was one of the worst and most onesided attracti transactions the United States has ever entered into. Frankly that deal is an embarrassment to the United States and i dont think you have heard the last of it. Believe me. Trina. Did you read that as the president saying that the eyunid states of america is going the tear up the Iranian Nuclear deal . This is yet another instance trump has essentially signalled thats exactly what hes planning to do by october 15th. The path right now seems to be that he will Tell Congress that iran has abided by the Nuclear Aspects of the deal but then because the congressional certification requires him to also say whether he believes it still remains in the u. S. National interest to have lifted sanctions on iran hell probably come out and say no. And then hell push the issue to congress and it will be congress that will decide whether we will keep the deal or not. And mindful how congress has behaved on iran in the past it doesnt look very likely this deal will survive if trump goes down this route. If we were to alter the deal in any way, shape or form, trina, what happens . The United States is not in a position. Particularly mindfulful of how trump is beehiving right now to convince the other party of the deal, not just iran. Its france, germany, uk russia and china, this they are going to reopen this negotiation. There can be additional agreements but that necessitates additional diplomacy. Trump has not shown that interests nor necessarily the capacity to engage in such negotiations. But there certainly are things that can be added and certainly are things that will be valuable to add. But again needs the United States to go back to the table and behave like a country that actually can and wants to have achievements of that kind. Well were having this conversation. A live look at the United Nations, President Trump and the first lady have made their way back to the United Nations. I can tell you that though. That was not a live look. That was tape. But they are back in the u. N. For that meeting with the secretary general. Vivian, as you watch this morning, what struck you most . Couple of things. First of all it was donald trump, the man, full on for the world to see. Talking about calling kim jong un a rocket man, referring to terrorists as losers. That is something that weve seen him do here talking to domestic audiences but a lot of that is interesting because it gets lost in translation when you are talking to a world audience. Ive been speaking with people, shooting messages back and forth with people in the room and getting quick reactions and a lot of them are really astonished and outrages. One person how could they be . They have seen and heard this president over the last eight or nine months . That is the thing. A lot people are seeing him front and center for the first time. Their first exposure to him and really thought that you know an american president would get in dpront of this world audience and would at least sort of cater a message to the world audience but that is not what he did. Interesting, we were talk about this embarrassment to the u. S. Comment talk about the Iranian Nuclear deal. Almost sounds like hes campaigning. That hes still speaking to the u. S. Audience. A president may think that but to announce it to the o world. Hes always talking how we need to portray strength to allies and countries around the world but when you actually undermine some sort of diplomas or negotiations that have been conducted via the u. S. You know, it really has shocked so many people that heard that speech today. I would massaimagine a lot o allies would be less nervous if the state department were functioning properly. Here is the headline off your new piece. Tillersons state department is adrift diplomats said. Essentially trump went into this Foreign Policy a novice. And he needed to get all of the information the government has to provide. The state department, the pentagon. The state department, massive budget cuts. Delays in staffing some very critical posts not just the undersecretary positions here. Five out of the six which happened to be very important to conduct global view of affairs at the state department. So were talking about north korea now and potential that we could really be taking action. Seoul does not have an ambassador to date. You have no ambassador in saudi arabia and some really critical posts so a lot of people think that the man of the hour, Rex Tillerson, the secretary of state has not really been at the forefront of this critical week where our allies could see him and thats really been a concern to a lot of people. Ambassador burns used to work at state as the spokesman. How would you characterize the current state of affairs in your former workplace. I was a Foreign Service officer. And its lamentable whats happened. The slow nature of the points. The 31 proposed budget cut. Foreign and Civil Service being freezed out. This is no way to run a government. We need a strong diplomacy and on iran we especially need a strong diplomacy. I think that President Trump would be very well advised to follow his instinctings on iran ace activities in the region. Iran is a real trouble maker in lebanon, syria, iraq and against israel and i think hed gain a lot of support from the arab world and europeans and the congress both parties if thats where he focused because the iranians deserve to be contained but not on the nuclear deal. It is not in our interest to walk way from that deal. And that is why you need a strong diplomacy. The problem with the speech today is that it was all about american hard power but the United States, our greatest president s have always accentuated the fact that were looking for peace. Were an alliance builder. Were in the world. Were not trying to walk away from the world which is what America First is all about so i vchb agree that weve got to strengthen the state department. Hope secretary tillerson will listen to congress which wants to give him full funding if hell take it. Vivian, ambassador burns, hill, big thanks to all of you helping us break that down. Hurricane maria is now a category 5 storm. 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This coming on the heels of the president s first major speech at the United Nations. When the president and the secretary general make their way and start speaking well take you there live. Meanwhile another potentially catastrophic hurricane heading the caribbean while remnants of the hurricane jose send dangerous rip currents along the east coast. Hurricane maria crippled the caribbean island of dominica last night, as the strongest hurricane on record to ever make land fall there. Now that storm is on track to pummel the Virgin Islands and puerto rico. In fact the islands Public Safety commissioner warning people to, quote, get out now or die. Puerto ricos governor said maria will essentially devastate the island. This storm will bring slow, sustained 150 miles an hour gusts. A lot of houses just wont withstand that. We have Live Team Coverage tracking both storms. Wnbcs dave price in new york. Tammy lite ner in puerto rico and the christen dal deron on the east coast. In terms of a track, where is maria how bad can this get . Reporter you pointed out the fact were watching hurricane activity along the eastern sea board of the United States in the atlantic. Lets folks on this track, craig and if you have questions again feel free to interrupt. Category five storm. 150 miles southeast of st. Croix at this point. With sustained winds at 160 Miles Per Hour. Moving west northwest at 10 Miles Per Hour. As we look at the track it is very important right now to consider where this storm is and how a wobble or a slight change may effect some of the outcomes. Puerto rico in its sights. Wednesday morning, 155 Miles Per Hour winds. Then brushing by the island of hispanola. Where haiti and the dominican republic. How it may impact the turks and Caicos Islands so devastated by irma. And then heads into the atlantic. The impacts rolling through place like st. Croix. Wind speeds of 125 to 150 Miles Per Hour. Potential storm surge of upwards 11 feet and rainfall, 15 plus inches. Major flooding expect in the Virgin Islands and then potentially over puerto rico. As it rolls through were going to see the winds not diminished by again its brush by st. Croix. Storm surge up to nine feet and wrafl town 20 or more inches. Rainfall. And in some mountainous areas that is going to cause major flooding as all out of the water and mud flows downward towards populated areas. And through the to the best of your recollection and caicos. Winds will begin to die down again. And rainfall 1218 inches but les took at this picture

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