Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20190318

MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin March 18, 2019

Times. Also, general motors, google, the united auto workers, Hillary Clinton, and now, today, calling joe biden another low iq individual, and slamming the Fake News Media. As the world mourned the 50 victims of fridays masksacre a who mosques in new zealand, President Trump had familiar foes online. He lashed out against joe biden with claims that were untrue, and at saturday night live, which was a rerun. He made a rare visit to Church Sunday but missed a chance to call for unity when the world was watching the tragedy in new zealand unfold. Geoff bennett sat tis at the wh house. What are you hearing from the president today, and what are we hearing about what can only be described as a runon, stream of consciousness thoughts from the president all weekend long . Reporter youre right. President trump is lashing out at a long list of targets on twitter. It is a stunning display of personal grievance at a time when the rest of the world is trying to come to grips with what is a true outrage, the unspeakable, horrific violence committed against muslims in new zealand. On that point, the president has a tweet for that, too. The president earlier this morning said this, the Fake News Media is working overtime to blame me for the horrible attack in new zealand. Theyll have to work very hard to prove that one. So ridiculous. To be clear, most of the critiques of the president s rhetoric dont directly blame him for the attack. Rather, they question whether or not the president has a responsibility as the leader of the free world to more cecondem. You see the president stand up for individual liberties. The president is not a White Supremacist. Im not sure how many times we have to say that. Reporter mulvaneys comments dont explain why President Trump has had the chance to vehemently condemn White Nationalist and supremacist time after time and has chosen not to do so, chris, including in the 50 or so tweets hes been sending since this weekend. All right. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Ijonathan, the White House Reporter and we have the former john mccain adviser. Jonathan, opinion writer and mississippi nrk bk contribu msnbc contributor. In the past, when President Trump goes on a tweet storm, people can point to him feeling under pressure, lashing out because he feels backed into a corner. What do you see as behind what has gone on over the last two and a half days or so . He was all over the map. He was. He had a not a very restful weekend, clearly, though he didnt leave the white house much, beyond the Church Service yesterday morning. A few things are at play here. First of all, he is aware, like we all are, and he is waiting for the Mueller Report, like we all are. Ticktock, ticktock. People close to him says no one has an exact timeline when it is coming. Could be soon, matter of days or weeks. It is on his mind, as well as his attorney, Rudy Giuliani, who has been not visible the last couple days. Number two, yes, what we saw on friday, the terrible massacre in new zealand, where he has received some condemnation here for not being out there more forthright in denouncing White Suprema supremacy, White Nationalism, in the attacks. He says it is unfair. No one is suggesting he is to blame for the attacks, but hes had moments where he has given the opportunity to say things and he has not. It is accurate, he is mentioned in the shooters manifesto in a somewhat positive manner. He was on the shooters mind. Thats there, too. We have this steady drum beat of the House Democrats and these investigations that are coming. The document requests, the subpoenas that are expected. Michael cohen is in the news again. Its sort of a confluence of things. You know, he also has been frustrated, someone told me, where he feels fox news, which has been a safe refuge for him, and he received criticism over the weekend from some of the anchors there. He feels it is coming from all corners at this time. Therefore, he needs the release. He needs to let that steam out, and he often does that on twitter, which is what we saw this weekend. One of the things we know about the president , we saw it this weekend, is he just doesnt let things go. Case in point, obviously, doug, as your former boss, john mccain, he tweeted things that were untrue. He pushed Meghan Mccain to tweet back, no one will ever love you the way they loved my father. I wish i had been given more saturdays with him. Maybe spend yours with your family instead of on twitter, obsessing over mine. I get that President Trump thinks mueller is a target that appeals to his base. Hillary clinton, years later, a target that appears to his base. War hero and lifetime Public Servant who died six months ago . What do you think is going on here . Well, i dont know. Its certainly laughable to think a tweet from even the president of the United States is going to change in any way the legacy that john mccain left behind as a warrior, as a hero, as a patriot. It really, i think, sharpens the lesson of his life, which is, there are things that are not about you. Theyre not about your party or about your country. Theyre about the things the United States stands for. Thats how he lived his life. I think thats a great lesson at this moment. Jonathan, i also want to get back to something that john said, which is, the president has had a number of chances now over the weekend, certainly going to and from church, to call out hate groups, to express empathy with the victims of fridays attack in new zealand. I just want to play what he said on friday. Do you see today White Nationalism as a rising threat around the world . I dont really. I think its a small group of people that have very, very serious problems. I guess if you look at what happened in new zealand, perhaps thats a case. I dont know enough about it yet. I mean, his own government statistics, the southern poverty law center, you know, everybody who does statistics on this shows the rise of hate groups and hate crimes. Right. With todays tweet, hes going after critics who suggest his own statements have fueled hate groups and White Nationalism and, of course, in the gunmans manifesto, trump is hailed as a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose. He says and that was the tweet this morning that is ridiculous. He blames the fake media for this. Join the conversation about that, jonathan. So when the president sent out that tweet about, you know, the fake news is making this up, the connection, i retweeted the president and used the language from the terrorist murderers manifesto. As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose, sure, referring to President Trump. Then as a policymaker and leader, dear god, no. What were seeing with the president is, you know, the president is proving the terrorist murderer right again. How does the leader of the free world go to church two days after a slaughter of innocents halfway around the world, and is mentioned in the killers manifesto, and not make a definitive statement against White Nationalism, white identity politipolitics, White Supremacy, and disavow his role in any of that . Were not talking about a normal president. Were not talking about a normal presidency. Were talking about a man who seeded the moral authority of the oval office when he said there were fine people on both sides after the horror of charlottesville. Heather heyer lost her life to a neonazi who plowed his car into a group of counterprotesters who were protesting people coming into their community and doing things and saying things that go against the founding principles of this country. Thats why i am not surprised that President Trump did not take the opportunity to make things right and to say things that are healing. He didnt do it in charlottesville. I wasnt waiting for it in response to what happened in new zealand. John, you know, because youre the white house correspondent, i kind of ask you to get into the president s head, which i realize is not fair. Tricky business. When i woke up sunday morning and saw he was going to church, i thought, okay. This is something that president s would do. You would go to church. Sure. The press pool would be with you. Youll address this. Would have seemed, as jonathan just eluded to, the perfect time to address what was going on, show empathy. Any sense, first of all, why the president chose to go to church this weekend . He doesnt do it, i dont think, ever as president , outside of holidays, and why he didnt take the opportunity to Say Something about what had happened in new zealand . He rarely goes to Service Beyond perhaps christmas and easter. It was a surprise to the press pool. One of my colleagues was with him. We anticipated this could be a moment. Maybe thats why he desided to do decided to do it. Talk about the prayers he said for the victims. Could have been a moment of National Unity and some healing. A nice gesture. Thats one weve seen him have a hard time making time and time again. Of course, charlottesville is the best example, where he didnt immediately condemn what happened. The White Supremacists who incited the violence, they lost a young demonstrator her life. Hes struggled to show sympathy for national disasters, as well. In puerto rico, he passed out paper towels like they were basketballs, then feuding with the government about the money washington was going to send to help with the rebuilding process. Hes had struggles with the shooting in las vegas and others. I was with him when he went to california a few months ago for the wildfires there. Conveying empathy is something he does not come naturally to him. In particular, this seems to be a blind spot, if you will, about White Supremacy. He has time and time again, from the early days of the campaign, when he was slow to reject david dukes endorsement, to now, where hes not delivered the forthright, fulsome condemnation we expect our president s, who are the moral leaders of our country, to do. He is defending pirro. Anyway, you know, so i mean, george conway, Kellyanne Conways husband, took to twitter to question the president s mental stability. Kellyanne was asked about it on the north lawn this morning. Heres what she said. Your husband has been 2003ing his concerns about the president s Mental Fitness for office. Are those concerns you share so . I have four kids, so i didnt talk to the president about substance. I may not be up to speed on all of them. So if shes not up to speed, i will tell you, what her husband suggested, doug, is that donald trump has at least two diagnosable disorders. He tweeted the sections of the medical books that describe what goes into that. I wonder, even as we are, as weve said, mourning what happened in new zealand, or any time, is it helpful to go there, even if the president is going on twitter tirades and has you scratching your head . Even as somebody who, for most of his life considered himself a conservative . Look, i find this all quite perplexable. I per pl i think what jonathan said is telling. He didnt expect the president to have any moral leadership in this tragic moment. Thats a very sad statement about this presidency. This is the office in which americans have typically had someone they could look to for guidance, at times of great joy and great sadness, to set our national priorities. You know, when i look at whats going on now, people are looking elsewhere. Thats, i think, a real comment on this administration, on this presidency. Doug, jonathan, and jonathan, gentlemen, great to have all of you here. Breaking news in the netters land netherlan netherlands. There was a shooting and there is a search for the shooter. Beto orourke is meeting with voters. We have live pictures for you. There it is. Well talk about his first day fundraising, which topped everybody elses cash haul. What does it really mean in the big picture . Well be right back. The big picture . Well be right back. video games have evolved. Addle why hasnt the way you bank . 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He said theyre looking at a possible terror motive from the suspect and have not ruled out the possibility more people are involved. Brian carter is in utrecht right now. Whats the situation on the ground right now . What can you tell us . Reporter yes, good morning. Im 500 feet away from the square where the shooting happened this morning at about 10 45 local time. As you said, three people have been killed, according to the citys mayor, and nine people have been injured. The city is very much on lockdown, as you can hear. There are police and ambulances going around. As you can see behind me, there is probably the only place in the city we could find people at moment. There is a heavy presence of journalists and policemen. In that street, theres been a lot of police and antiterrorism units that have been going in with robots, as well. We think that, presumably, this is the place where the prime suspect, the 37yearold, lives. We dont have more information at this stage. The police is being cautious at the moment. They dont want to give away too much information. The investigation is ongoing. The Prime Minister of the netherlands cancelled his meetings today to concentrate on this investigation. We should be able to have more information in the next few hours. Bryan, thank you so much for that. Well be getting back to you as more information comes in. Let me bring in our terrorism contributor, malcolm nance. Days after what happened in new zealand, we have another terror attack. The mayor there says it may be related to a terror motive. Let me just get your early thoughts on this. Well, this may be just the first of a series of attacks that we might see by individuals who may be aligned to some extremist groups or just through selfmotivation to carry out what they would consider revenge for the murder of 50 people in new zealand. It almost should have been predicted by european Law Enforcement that an incident like this would happen. The individual, and i know nbc hasnt confirmed it, but from what were seeing and reporting, the individual was a known member of an extremist league, and he was a former fighter who had fought in chechnya and tried to go to the islamic state. You cant arrest everybody, and you cant keep everyone under surveillance. He acted, apparently as far as we know, on his own, and with a handgun, it is almost preventable unless you actually catch him with the firearm en route to an operation. Meantime, in new zealand, the death toll has gone up to 50. Since were talking about gunmen, the family of the suspect said over the weekend they were stunned by this. Apparently, at least by the report of one family member, his dad died, he went to europe at a time of rising islamic extremism. They say he changed a little bitment bi bit. Theres another report that a former Police Officer who went to the gun club where the suspect belonged said he had reported that he had serious concerns about members and their mental stability. So talk about the tools of radicalization, particularly that could infiltrate a country like new zealand, that had fewer murders in an entire year than it did in this one incident. Youre absolutely right. Radicalization is not just a component of terrorism that is restricted to one group. Right now, the United States government literally took all other forms of terrorism and radicalization off the agenda, except islamic fundamentalist terrorism and radicalization. There is a growing movement around the world that we have seen with rightwing extremists who believe they are in a clash of civilizations with islam. We saw that in norway. Weve seen it in incidents in italy and germany, where gunmen have taken it into their own hands. There is a White Supremacist international, where they communicate with each other on internet platforms like gab and other places like hchan. They pass their ideology around. They view themselves as these crusading knights who are taking action into their own hand. If a person sees another individual who espouses these radical ideologies, yes, they have a right to freedom of speech, but you have to be aware that like islamic extremists who spout violent rhetoric, the rhetoric could progress into an incident, and perhaps should be reported to Law Enforcement. Weve only got a minute left. One thing that the Prime Minister said in addition to theres going to be a fight in that country over toughening the gun laws, she wants a sit down. She wants to look at facebook officials facetoface and know how this got live streamed. Facebook put out a statement saying in the first 24 hours they took down 1. 5 million videos of the

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