Protesters and lawmakers to address policing practices. What hes saying in a new interview this morning. Were also seeing the power of those protests in action right now. Louisville, kentucky, passing a law named after Breonna Taylor, the woman killed by police in her home. That new law would ban the use of noknock warrants. Now a republican senator is calling for a similar law nationwide. Were also following spikes in coronavirus cases in states across the country. Right now there are more than 2 million cases in the united states. How states are dealing with this challenge as those numbers continue to climb. But first, the president , as we noted, is in new jersey right now after a trip to dallas where he discussed possible Police Reforms. Nbcs kelly odonnell, my colleague, is in bridgewater, new jersey, outside the president s bedminster property. What are we learning from the president who is trying to balance the calls hes hearing loudly for Police Reform and his instinct to drill into this idea, as he tweets often in all caps of law and order . Reporter thats so right. Its the instinct versus the moment and what is happening in the shift in our culture and society with much broader call for Police Reforms and more sensitivity on the issues exposed by the death of george floyd and the response weve seen around the country. So the president is not wanting to back off what he thinks is a core part of his appeal to his base, being a law and order president , one of the ways he defines himself, also embracing Law Enforcement and yet trying to figure out a way to answer this moment. So we saw from the president in dallas where hes talking about some things he could do through executive order, and at the same time we know that congress is looking at way z to do things legislatively that are much more aggressive than what the president is looking at. The president is taking it from an approach thats a big more holistic where hes talking about issues like trying to find opportunity capital for communities of color so theres greater Business Opportunity and livelihood opportunity as well as choice regarding schools. So education, economy, and then at the same time looking at ways to have an executive order to encourage Police Departments around the country to embrace the latest in policing, understanding the tactics, deescalation, those kinds of things. Its still a work in progress. Nothing official from the white house, just talking about those ideas, and the timing of the president s visit to dallas was about fundraising as the president is also doing a fundraiser tonight at his new Jersey Property because were in campaign season. Of course, he is going to go back to the rally world, and that has brought about some juxtaposition of timing that is bringing more criticism to the president about the calendar. Next friday he is going to be holding his rally in tulsa, a place that has its own history of racial violence, and it falls on juneteenth, the commemoration of the emancipation, a holiday that is important to acknowledge the end of the civil war and freedom from slavery, and the timing is such the president who holds big rallies will be doing so on that day. He was asked about that timing in a new interview with fox news. Here is how he responded. Your rally in oklahoma is set for june 19th. Was that on purpose . No. But i know exactly what yu peer going to say. Im just asking. Ive not got anything to say. Think about a celebration. My rally is a celebration. In the history of politics, i think i can say, theres never been any group or any person that has had rallies get the biggest stadium and we fill it up every time. Reporter so aides have been talking about the celebratory idea, the president , by bringing together a huge crowd would be acknowledging juneteenth. Weve known from covering dozens and dozens of rallies the majority of attendees are white and there are a small number of africanamericans. So is that the right environment for a celebration of juneteenth. The president has now planned for an acceptance speech at the Republican National convention not in North Carolina where it was scheduled to be, but now in jacksonville. That ties in with another important date in terms of civil rights history, and the president is getting some pushback on that as well. And the campaign is saying they cant erase some of the darkest moments in American History but they can learn from them. The calendar on the campaign side and u. S. History are overlapping in a way where the president is now being questioned on a lot of these matters. Kelly odonnell traveling with the president after going on Board Air Force one from dallas to new jersey. Thanks for your insights and reporting. The mayor of seattle defending protesters after President Trump threatened to take over the sixblock area. Activists have taken over an area surrounding a police precinct. Their message is straightforward, that police should stay away. Here is what President Trump said about that in a new interview. If they dont straighten that situation out, were going to straighten it out. What do you mean by that . What i mean is very simple. Were not going to let seattle be occupied by anarchists. The woman, i dont know has she ever done this before. In seattle . It was pathetic. Were not going to let this happen in seattle. If we have to go in, were going to go in. Nbcs Vaughn Hillyard is in seattle. I lived in that city for a long time, spent a lot of time on capitol hill where this is taking place. The president says hes not going to allow seattle to be occupied by anarchists. Is it anarchists who are now running the show . Reporter peter, as you just said, youve been through that neighborhood before on capitol hill. This particular neighborhood where this sixblock radius has become this socalled autonomous zone, its very much of a has its own life within itself. Over the last nights youve had thousands of folks walk through. Its more like a pedestrian street festival. Restaurants are open, couches in the middle of the road, gardening taking place. We should note the context to this. The president says that it may come down to him to step in and bring in troops to take back over this zone. We should note it was the mayor and the police chief who pulled back police. There had been more than a week of protests that had escalated in violence with flash bang grenades and pepper spray and teargas being used. Thats when the city decided on monday to pull back. Thats essentially when this autonomous zone was created. I want you to hear directly from mayor jenny durkin of seattle responding to the president s suggestion that he may use his own force here in the city. The right to challenge authority and government is fundamental to who we are as americans. We do not need anyone, including the president , to try to sow further divide, further mistrust and misinformation. The threat to invade seattle to divide and insight violence in our city is not only unwelcome, it would be illegal. Reporter there was one resident i talked to who said the last several nights hes felt safe unlike the week prior when the protests were on going. The police chief call time response has increased by three months because that east precinct for the Police Department remains vacant at this time. Peter. Vaughn hillyard in kerry park with a beautiful view of the seattle skyline, thank you very much. The city council in louisville, kentucky, just voted unanimously to put an end to the kind of police warrants that resulted in the death of Breonna Taylor. He death had become a rallying cry at protests with calls to ban noknock warrants nationwide. Here is how her family reacted to the news of whats now breonnas law. Say her name. Breonna taylor. Say her name. Breonna taylor. Say her name. Breonna taylor. Nbcs cal perry is in louisville where protesters have been demanding that change in policy. Does the family and do the protesters finally feel like theyre getting some o form of justice here . Reporter i think they do. This is the first step amongst many. You can see breonnas mother behind me. A number of ceremonies today following the passage of that law. The Police Officer are still under investigation. It was three months tomorrow when breonna was killed in that noknock raid. Weve been speaking to people here amongst the city council about what this law means, for them to be able to pass it. Take a listen to what one of the members had to say earlier this morning. When i think about the world that i want my children to live in, i want it to be a safer world. I want it to be a more compassionate world. I want it to be a place where black people are not being killed by Law Enforcement in their own homes. Theres no reason for it. Reporter when you talk again to breonnas family, theyll tell you that this is now a question of how to involve civilians in the policing here in louisville, how to have some kind of oversight, some kind of inspector general. Were also going to pivot at some point to the funeral of david mctea. He was shot. Theres discussion about what happened in that case. The one here that seemed to be central were the noknock raids which will now be not allowed. Cal perry in louisville, thank you very much. Kentuckys senator rand paul wants breonnas law to go further than just in louisville. Hes calling for a nationwide policy. Yesterday senator paul introduced the justice for Breonna Taylor act that would ban federal Law Enforcement officers from carrying out no knock warrants. I want to bring in maya wiley, former assistant u. S. Attorney in the Southern District of civil rights decisions. Shes obviously well positioned to address this issue head on for us. Maya, i appreciate your expertise on this right now. Walk us through this. When it comes to no knock warrants, how widespread is this as an issue nationwide, and would a ban on it have a Significant Impact in cases of Police Brutality . Its a really important question and its a widespread practice. Very hard to get data on it. But lets start with the fact that it is an important shift because people die. People die because of no knock warrants. Breonna taylors death shows us that. But theres even statistics to bear that out. In fact. One researcher found that between over about a sixyear period, 94 people were killed as a result of noknock warrants. One example was a toddler in georgia in 2014. Police burst into the home and threw a grenade into the toddlers play pen on a noknock warrant. That child fortunately survived but was in a coma. Thats the kind of practice no one should ever tolerate. That one news story should have changed it. We saw no knock warrants jump radically from the 1980s into the 2000s, literally from 1,500 no knock warrants jumped to 45,000 by the early 2000s because the Supreme Court opened up the ability of Law Enforcement to get these no knock warrants in the 90s. Its a problem. Its a problem by enabling no knock warrants. Its also resulted in the death of officers. Of that 94 death count i mentioned, 13 were Police Officers. We should recognize that when we want to keep everyone safe, its also better for Law Enforcement officers to not have no knock warrants. By this week, the new york state assembly, as youre likely aware, also approved the eric garner anti chokehold act. So Many Americans familiar with the i cant breathe. It would ban police chokeholds. In california the governor is considering a similar measure hes announced as well. What is the obstacle to this . Could it be done nationally . Why is there any need for choke holds . The obstacle is political. Its a political obstacle erected by police unions, who want to give the widest latitude possible to Police Officers what they want, when they want to do it with very little restriction. The result is we have collective bargaining agreements and also a failure of legislation sometimes at the state level to ensure that we have more and better roadmaps for what kind of Police Conduct keeps the public safe and what kind of Police Conduct makes us more vulnerable to excessive force. So whats changed now is that these kinds of laws that, even after eric garner were hard to get passed because demonstrators are in the street, these things that should have been easy before George Floyds death are now made mandatory as a result of yet another one. Maya wiley. Thank you for your expertise. To those watching us right now, maya is the featured guest on this weeks episode of the podcast the oath with chuck rosenberg. You can listen for free and subscribe wherever you get your podcast. Right now House Democrats are looking to pass Police Reform to meet the overwhelming cry for justice we continue to hear. Its still unclear when we could see a vote or if we will see a compromise between democrats and republicans. I want to bring in someone who knows a lot about this conversation. Texas congresswoman Sheila Jackson lee, a democratic. Shes also a member of the house Judiciary Committee. Congresswoman, we appreciate you being here. Out of the gates, my first question is when do you think well see an official vote by the house on this legislation that you helped bring forth . Let me thank you for having me. As you well know, we wish that George Floyds life did not generate spark, implode this question of police accountability. But we know that it has as we watched him lose his life on the streets of minneapolis in the most violent way. He was actually murdered. I just want to announce that, ill be leading the effort to name the bill after george floyd. With that said, i want to thank our chairman and the head of the congressional black caucus, karen bass, chairman nadler, and the combined Democratic Caucus and members of the Judiciary Committee and leadership have said theres no more important agenda in this moment. We expect to mark the bill up this coming wednesday with a comprehensive look with republicans and democrats. Frankly we hope there will be those of conscience, my friends, to vote for this bill and to mark it up then to send it to the floor in the following week. We cannot wait. Dr. King said that many, many years ago and said now is the time. It was probably the time many years ago, decades ago, but here we are now. Were going to respond as quickly as we can. We heard from kevin mccarthy, the Top Republican in the house within the last 24 hours or so saying he cant identify any one specific item in the democrats legislation that he is opposed to right now. Are you satisfied that you can get the republican votes you need, not just to pass this but to send a message to americans that theres bipartisan support for this effort . This is an american issue. Leader mccarthy was in our hearing just a few days ago introducing a witness. He said some very complimentary and encouraging words. I think these are encouraging words. What we have seen and the brunt of Police Actions again africanamericans cannot be doubted. I just got off a call with the helsinki commission, im a member of it, an International Commission on peace and democracy. One of the parliamentarians in england said there are 3 blacks in england, 40 of the police stops are blacks. This is a real problem of racism as well as accountability. I just dont think we have any moment at this time to rest or to wait. But we really want to do it in a bipartisan way. I believe the voices of americans are being raised by the protesters in the streets and it is an american issue. A real reckoning, not just here in the u. S. But around the world. Quickly i want to get your reaction. The president will host his first rally, again, since the pandemic began in tulsa with the dark chapter in history taking place 99 years ago this month, the tulsa race riots, Tulsa Race Massacre there. Similarly hell be ak is accepting his nomination as the republican nominee for president in jacksonville on another historic anniversary, 60 years since whats called axe handle saturday where young naacp youth were attacked in that americans . Well, if he does not provide the comfort and truth of the history of the descendants of slaves in this country, then it sends a horrible message, and it particularly sends a very sad and horrible message. Juneteenth is a very somber and sobering time even though there are moments of joy because it is freedom, for many slaves that lasted or remained slaves two extra years after the emancipation proclamation. Texas is part of that. Ive created an emancipation trail to honor that when captain granger came in 1865, two years later. Then in tulsa, if i might say, we just had a briefing on that a few weeks ago. I introduced hr40, the commission to study reparations. We acknowledge the black wall street that was destroyed because it was alleged a young black man glanced at a white woman in an elevator. Mobs of whites burned down this prosperous town, killed africanamericans, descendants of slaves, never have been apologized for, took all the wealth away at that time. It is a painful moment in our history. And then 60 years ago was as well. The president is skating around it with milquetoast policies around police accountability, vanilla policies that dont work as well. He has not shown any compassion or passion or heart. We are hurting in this country. Everyone is looking for someone to bring us together. I want to brin