Vote for us, were standing up. It is cruel and inhumane, all of us must stand of and own it and notinquish or agency in this. My colleague mariana atense i dont joins us from mcallen, texas. We see a protest behind you. What are you hearing, mariana . Reporter here in the valley is outraged standing right in front of the that Processing Center that jacob describe. You can see not even the 100degree heat is deterring many families, and lets children inside know that they have a base of support out here in the community. One of the voices of if the support is congressman bela. You represent the valley. Can you tell us how how important it is to be out here. What this country is seeing today is for 2,000 children or more to come, is the American Dream turning into an american nightmare. All because the president of the United States has decided to impose the zerotolerance policy. Reporter for you to be here i understand to welcome other members of congress, so that how critical is it especially for all these people here . I think its critical for lawmakers across this country to understand what is different about this unaccompanied minor surge from back in thats different from what happened back in 2014 and 2016 when we sauce a soldier of unaccompanied minors here, is this is an accompanied minor crisis manufactured by the president of the United States. If the president had not imposed the zerotolerance policy, we would not be living through this today. Thats why members of congress from all over this country are coming here today. Reporter thank you so much for the background and contrast, david. As you know, there was a child my grant crisis in 2014. I was talking to the congressman that the person were placed in the same Processing Center jacob was but what makes this crisis different and what has all these people outraged is because the kids parents are being prosecuted, thats the separation is happening, because the u. S. Government is making it so. That just continues to tear your heart when you hear these stories, the fact this is on Donald Trumps hands, and again that is why you have all these people out here. One of them told me we are sure that the children in there can hear us. So theyre going to scream as loud as they can and be out here for the next hour or so. Thank you, mariana. Shell continue to cover the protest throughout the afternoon. Thats whats happening on the u. S. mechanic ko border. In the belt wii President Trump was at the golf course again today, will travel to capitol hill on tuesday to meet with House Republicans to discuss immigration reform. With us is kelly odonnell. She covers the white house, jane newton small and Caitlyn Huey Burns are here. Kellie, we got a statement earlier from the first ladys reaction to what we have seen we have it upthere. To this tone, this perspective doesnt seem to have changed here. Its always notable when a first lady comments on policies, and certainly with mrs. Trump, he has demonstrated an interest in Child Welfare sure, so there might be some overlap. What i think is notable about her statement through her office is that it does have a softer tone, a more conciliatory tone, a motherly tone, if you will, but in substance shes not breaking with the president tore the administration on key issues. The laws must be followed. Her hope is a bipartisan solution to immigration issues can be achieved, but she also notes that the government can operate with heart. Thats something we have heard the president say, not very often, but he has used that phrase. So in mrs. Trumps statement, shes certainly putting a softer touch on this, and a hopeful tone that this can be resolved. Thats different from what were hearing from some of the hardline advocates. Steve bannon, for example, a former strategist who was speaking out today, saying he does not think the president will back down. Also from the counselor to the president , Kelly Anne Conway, she said as a mother and person with a conscience, she troubled by this, but at the same time says there needs to be a legislative fix. At the same time no one is directly answering the issue of whether the president with unilaterally end the enforcement of this policy. Theres no question there are legislative problems and fixes that need to be made. There isnt sufficient funding for Detention Centers that would keep parents and children together, if that option were pursu pursued. Obviously looking at ways to provide other sorts of immigration relief, whether its for the daca students, the dreamer kids as theyre known or the president s pet project, the border wall. You mentioned tuesday he will go to the house meeting with republicans, who have two different bills that they are considering. Hard to imagine getting any immigration bill through and onto his desk in a med term election year, but certainly the images and realities affecting these children and families is creating political pressure. The the president also wants to deliver on the border wall promise, and in the big scheme of things, even though the reps control the white house and congress, they would need democratic support, because some of the most hardline republicans dont support anything that would look like, as they would use the word amnesty for young immigrants, the dreamers. You need democrats to help out. They need to looking at all of that, david, it is hard to see how they accomplished that in a midterm year. Both parties can use these issues for their own political purposes, but they also have to answer for the reality affectsing the children and families who are certainly getting a lot of attention now, and people who want to do something to change the separation of families. David . Jane newton small, kellie mentioning Kelly Anne Conway on meet the press this morning. Nobody likes this policy. The president wants this to end, but everybody has congress has to act. He can end it on his own. This is a congressional law from many years, it is a crime to enter this country illegally. So if they dont like that law, they should change it. Jay, let me vent the same frustration that you saw from chuck todd there. This could be solved quickly, if not immediately, and somebody is saying nobody likes this policy. Clearly somebody in that building with a lot of power does like it, because it persists. Absolutely. This is a reinterpretation of a law by the Trump Administration that has, as kellyanne points out has existed for decades. Its obviously it is again to come into the United States, but this is the first time we are separating children from their families as they do this, as they enter the country. It is clearly a new interpretation of a very old law the Trump Administration is taking, and theyre doing it clearly to create political pressure, and doing it to try to get democrats and try to get republicans in their own party to pay for this wall that trump so dearly wants and to get something moving in congress. The problem is this is a not the right people they are looking to talk to, in the sent that republicans are not talking to democrats. Theyre not part of any kind of negotiations involving immigration, and they need to be if youre going to have to move forward with a bill that will pass the senate with 60 votes. Youll see this monday, youve got shelly moore caputo, who is the West Virginia senator, who will be meeting with President Trump, who chairs the hhs subcommittee on appropriation, who would get enough and shes basically delivering bad news, where shes going to say we dont have enough money to do this and youre going to have to convince enough democrats to do this wall and by separating families is not the best way to build that pressure. Its not going to move any votes in an election year. The last question to you, with the caveat this is a white house issue that the administration could change. There have been whisperings that they could do on this sure separating children from family, yet this seems to be no appetite to engage in that. Mark meadows of the House Freedom caucus, he wants it to be part of a larger, more comprehensive immigration bill. Do you see that starting to change at all, amid st. This outrage. Do you think thats going to change, this is something that the congress will be willing to take up in specific . Sure. Time will tell, when you have those images coming from the border that you have been playing throughout your show, you see lawmakers making their way to the border to make a statement of sorts, trying to increase the public pressure on lawmakers to do something. The thing the problem is that any Time Congress is faced with an issue involving immigration, they feel that they wont have another chance or an opportunity to get something in legislati that they want thats even tangentially related to we saw that congress was unable to pass kind of a clean or gain support for a clean daca bill. Instead they kind of added on a lot of different measures. The president , of course, as we remember intervened, also called for curbs to legal immigration. So youre having a variety of different groups trying to acertain different amounts of because this will be the final opportunity to do that. The difference, though, with, you know, this and daca, as compared to some other items that we have seen is this of course involves a very compelling group, which is children, in this case children who are being separated from their families, an the politics involved are very different for people not to reaction emotional and viscerally to those imaging. Well see if the public pressure continues. I would note, however, in regard to the meetings the president is versus with reps, hes talked and has, you know, had a compassionate approach, only to reverse course hours or days later. Caitlyn thank you for the time. My thanks to kelly and jae as well. 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Its no wonder everything seems a little better with the creamy taste of philly, made with fresh milk and real cream. New today the Washington Post reporting that roger stone, longtime confidant of President Trump, met with a russian who offered damaging information on Hillary Clinton during the 2016 president ial campaign. Well, that meeting was arranged by Trump Campaign official mike caputo, and reports of interest to Robert Mueller and his team. On the subject, the post also reporting that the president s allies are, quote, preparing for war as he nears the end of his yearlong probe. Joing muss is msnbc legal analyst katy phang. There is a lot of intrigue. Roger stone meets with henry green berg. Theres a lot of confusion here. They were maintaining this is being paid for by someone paid by the fbi. This contributed to michael capu caputo. If believe that he took tyke off from his long career to reach on the in his spare time, i have a bridge in brooklyn that i want to sell to you. What do you make of this what does it tell you about what was happens in that Trump Campaign . They don a make America Tshirt and hat and arrange a meeting to be able to pick off roger stone and michael caputo, well, youre dead wrong. Heres the bottom line. Paul manafort was the Trump Campaign manager and head of this Trump Campaign from march of 2016 to august of 2016. What contact does the Trump Campaign have with the russians during that time in at least george papadopoulos, and now he know mir raw his will you they remember that they had act with a Russian National when they previously lied, to house on Intel Committee members, when they had they never had private contact with russians, then suddenly both of them have memory recall . Oh, yay, by the way, we had this meeting, but roger stone is running around saying, it was, so, quote innocuous, he didnt refer it. His contact with gusifer who got into the dnc emails, he said i forgot about that, because it was so brief i had no memory of it. Its absurd. What stone is trying to do is damage control. He is probably and likely going to be indicted by mueller vets shortly. We have the timetable up there of meetings that took place during a compressed period of time. Hes meeting in which he found on the that the russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton then the release of the dnc emails in july of 2016. Let me pivot here, katy to account about the receipt ricks and how its changed. It doesnt have a lot to do bosch but thats not stopped members of is the Previous Team to speak about thinks issues more broadly. Well, heres the thing. I challenge anything that any of the to tell me that they read i. G. Report. It is such a reach, such a stret to be able to say that ig report, which clearly does bring serious claims about a lack o propriety, a selection we cant were bosed to, as Law Enforcement leave your biases and prejudices outside. You should by called out on it. When it comes from a legal perspective, nothing there impugn the mueller investigation. So if trump wants to continue his receipt ricks that theres some crazy collusion but rudy giuliani, so lets see paul man a fort is sitting in prison. Lets see in roger stone gets indi indicted. Theres a lot of people that still have a lot of information to offer to mueller. Nous just the mueller is it team. Katie, tnk y very much. President trump on twitter taking a victory lap, and i should say its a long victory lap. He wrote even if it does save potentially millions and millions of lives. Also writing holding back the war games was my request, because they are very expensive and set a bad light during a good faith negotiation, also quite provocative, can start up immediately if talks break doane, which i hope will happen. David, great to speak with you. I want to ask you first about mike pompeo. He visited a allies, and let me play a bit of sound. With respect to the pace at which the denuclearization will take place, i think we both agree that we need to do it as timely fashioned as possible to achieve the outcomes. With respect to the scope and scale i dont want to get into details of our intelligence precisely, but we have a reasonable understanding. It is incredibly important that we get a full understanding of that as quickly as possible. David ignatius, a timetable not part of that onepage document for the president and kim jongun signed. What do you make of what mime pompeo has to accomplish here, certainly a country with which we havent had many dealings. Is it a fool ease errand as well, just trying to make sense of what weaponshis regime has . I dont think its a fools errand, but its a real challenge. Donald trumps meeting was long on the photo opportunity, handshake, pat on the back side, and very short on details. Mike pompeo has the key intermediary. This trip after the summit i think is a cleanup tour, going to south korea, to japan, our two key allies, and trying to reestablish some framework going forward. The chinese want to know, okay, if donald trump says theres no more north Korean Nuclear threat, does that mean we can take off our sanctions on north korea . Similarly, the japanese who remain highly concerned about north korean behavior, wasnt to know, you know, is this now America Hayes friend in the regi region . Trumps tweets i think make this more difficult for mime pompeo, not the way around. You talk about him doing that cleanup work in asia, as he visits they capitals, and talks to officials. Is it your sense that he continues to enjoy the confidence of the president , what he says about a timetable or sanctioning is speaking for the president. I think mime pompeo is the person who really is the trump whisperer. Hes the man who can fin trumps sentences. Hes in sync with trump certainly in a way that Rex Tillerson wasnt. I think he is seen as the president s real intermediary, but some key thing he has said and that trump is in effect followed, one of the them is to say our agreement to stop military exercise with south korea isondition all on timping good faye negotiation. Its nots apermanent, you have to keep earning it. That was not clear after the summit. Then trump yeah, thats right, im glad he said that, because it needs to be conditional. Help us understand the import historically of the military exercises. You look at the president s tweets as you just mentioned he puts war games in quotation mark, weve seen the backlash from senator john mccain, saying thinks a mistake to cans the these. How important are they to readiness in the region . They exercises that have been going on, theyre held dwight annually are the way both that we have demonstrated our r