Latest from our bureau in london. Molly, this is being described as bye Buckingham Palace, a new model set to take place in the spring of 2020. What do we know from Buckingham Palace and the queen herself . A very new model. The palace held a Conference Call, and immediately after the palace released two statements, a statement from her majesty the queen and a statement from Buckingham Palace. The headlines, david, are that harry and meghan will retain their hrh titles, they will not use them though. They will no longer represent the queen officially. They will be known as the duke and duchess of sussex. Importantly, david, they will no longer take state funds, and look, both harry and meghan are very independently wealthy. They will also pay back at least some, if not all, of the renovation work that was done on Frogmore Cottage, estimated around 2. 5 million pounds. Frogmore cottage is that cottage on the queens Windsor Estate they moved into. They will also with the queens elizabethiqueens blessing keep their private patronages. Particularly over the last week, david, they will spend the majority of their time in north america. They are about to enter a really different life than what harry has grown up with. This is not a royal life. They will not be acting in royal capacities anymore. Somebody who has been watching all of this unfold very closely, was on that Conference Call is our colleague keir simmons. He joins us now by phone. Pick up the pieces from what were looking at here. Help us understand in full what this looks like versus what he was discussed, what has been hammered out here over these last couple of weeks . Well, i think what we have just learned is more dramatic, more drastic than had been flagged in the past week or so because what molly was talking about there, the fact that they will now spend the majority of their time in north america, well, remember that the first initial proposal was that they would split their time. Now, admittedly, they plan to keep their home at Windsor CastleFrogmore Cottage while paying back the public funds spent on that home. But i think that is a picture of a couple who to put it bluntly are leaving, are leaving the uk, and that is i mean, aside from meghan this American Woman who came was such a breath of fresh air to the royal family, also harry princess dianas son, one of the most beloved members of the royal family. The two of them are going, frankly, and then i think another aspect of it, which has really struck me, royal officials tell me that there are no restrictions on the commercial deals that they can do. Now, they do they do plan to uphold the dignity of the crown, if you like to not do anything that would embarrass the queen i suppose you could say. Theyre being very clear about that. Thats pretty extraordinary, too. It means effectively that they can go out there into the private sector and use their fame and status to do deals that i would suggest mean that they will become very much more wealthy than they already are, and those two things together i think tell us that these this couple who are so have been so flamboyant and by many people so loved and who many people felt were an opportunity for the royal family to meet the future with open arms, this couple are instead going to forge their own path while very much part of the family, and the queens statement is clear about that, they are part of the royal family, not working members of the royal family. Its really, frankly, pretty stunning. Reading there from the statement from her majesty the queen, harry, meghan and archie will always be much loved members of my family, she writes. You say this was more drastic than what was expected here. Take us behind the scenes as much as you can to the negotiations. What was happening in norfolk . What these conversations were like. This a seismic cultural development, but are from what youre describing, what needed to be hammered out was pecuniary, financial, that was the assumption of tense conversation between the queen and members of the whole family. Incredibly tense, and the tension for the royal family is always these two aspects. The fact that these are real people, a real family with real emotions who are having to deal with all those things, just as all of us do in our own families, and at the same time theyre having to deal with constitutional issues and issues of the future and for the queen and for Prince Charles and for prince william, very, very much looking to the future and wanting to sustain the royal family in the decades and the centuries ahead. They dont want to be looked back on as having made decisions that led to cause a crisis, that led to questions being raised about the royal family. So that is really knowing all that, you can just imagine how difficult it was in the room. I think from the statements you can see the queens deep, deep affection and love for her grandson and for her grand daughterinlaw, and that she, i think its honest. I think its genuine that she very much recognizes just how hard these past few years have been for them, and i think frankly what they have been saying to the royal family is we just cant put up with this any longer. We simply cannot continue like this, and so a path has to be found, and i will Say Something else, too. I think that the queen knowing what happened with harrys mom, princess diana, will have had that very much in mind. I think you can see that in some of the decisions theyve made. So, for example, they wont be his and her Royal Highness, but they will keep those titles. Of course diana was stripped of those titles, and there was a backlash against the royal family because of that. Yes. And then in terms of protection, i think there will be some kind of protection. Harrys funded, im personally not quite clear how it will be funded but i think that this is an attempt to put on a united front while at the same time the truth is that harry and meghan are going their own way. Keir simmons, stay with us if you would. I want to bring in julie montag montague. Shes a royal expert. Shes be familiar to those who watched the ladies of london series on bravo. Thats where i want to go with you, julie, if i could. During the course of that series, its something with which you are grappling, the modernization of this system, and as keir talks about them holding on to frogmore, their estate, these are things with which you had to grapple as well. There was a system in place, an economy in place for so many hundreds of years, and here we are at a turning point. Put this moment in some greater historicalc historicalc Historical Context if you would. The same thing that happened to the british aristocracy. Over a thousand homes were lost after the Second World War because they couldnt keep them up anymore. They were obviously very different from the royal family in the sense that we still carry on, but running a business, ore homes become our business. Its open to the public. I mean, that is how we survived, and again, my husband married an american and were constantly thinking of ways of how can we get more people to visit us in order for us to repair the roof sochlt wh. So when i look at the royal family and meghan and harry, this is a modern couple who is basically breaking out of the mold of the royal family and saying right, were going to do wonderful and Amazing Things but were also going to become financially independent. Were not kpent dpent dependents anymore. Of course were going to be respectful. But at the same time youve got to do what you kneneed to do in order to raise family and also do good. I think its a wonderful thing what theyre doing and, you know, it is hard as an american coming into this country and marrying into aris tok psy ask no less the royal family with the formalities and the protocols. You can feel quite suffocated. So luckily i married into a family who said great, weve got this american. Shes filled with ideas, vitality, north america, and i can feel the same way with me megh meghan. Shes full of ideas. She doesnt want to damage the royal family at all, but she also wants to be independent. Keir simmons, help us understand what opportunities are available to these two now. There have been so much reporting over the last few weeks about what they might do in terms of entertainment. There was that video released of them in conversation with bob iger. What do they want to do . What do we know of what this couple wants to do now that they moved their lives as youve said for most of the year to north america . Yeah, i mean, i dont think we fully know. I do think that that conversation that we effectively overheard because the cameras were there between prince harry and bob iger was pretty incredible to see prince harry effectively pitching for his wife for voiceover work. Obviously that voiceover work, the money from that went to charity, but that moment gives you a picture of what will worry the royal family. Being a commercial entity if you like, your own private money can be messy. It can be not very royal, and so that is a danger that harry and meghan now face. I think its important to repeat what the palace has said, which is that harry and meghan plan to uphold the values of her majesty. The question is what does that exactly mean, and when does a deal or a piece of acting work, in meghans case or perhaps a partnership with a fashion brand, or maybe in harrys case, some kind of a sporting endea r endeavor, who knows . When does that at what point does that cross the line and no longer and no longer uphold the values of the royal family . In many ways its a subjective judgment, and i think the really crucial thing is that today, this weekend, effectively the royal family have kind of relinquished control if you like. They have set basically this agreement says that harry and meghan are allowed to do whatever they want to do. They dont have to go as they would have had to up until now to anyone else to ask permission. Ill be honest, i think they found having to go and ask for permission incredibly stifling, very difficult, having said that, the purpose of those restrictions are to protect the brand if you like. And that in a sense i think summarizes the crux of the problem that the royal family has faced. It is how do you let harry and meghan have their own free will while protecting the brand, and its incredibly difficult and thats what theyre trying to achieve here. I will say this, though. You know, i agree. I think there will be lots of people who will be celebrating that harry and meghan have made their own choices, have freed themselves from the stuffy royal hallways of palaces and more senior royals telling them what to do. At the same time, i think its incredibly disappointing for the royal family that these two, you know, ambassadors, these two bright, fun, enthusiastic, caring, and very in many ways sort of a breath of fresh air couple are no longer going to be working members of the royal family. I think the royal family will be poorer for it. I think at the wedding it felt for me, the wedding felt like a moment of change for the royal family in which the royal family kind of embraced doing things differently and new communities, including americans. Yes. And i think its a real shame if this does turn out to be as much of a break as i fear it. One thing quickly if we can, yeah. They are going to review it in a years time, so the door is just left slightly ajar that if it doesnt work, things can be put back together, but its hard to imagine. Some finale here, the cultural conversation continues as keir simmons says, molly hunter joining us from our london don bure london bureau. 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Giving you a nice big edge over your competition. Thats the power of edgetoedge intelligence. Thanks so much for joining us, its a busy saturday. Im david gura at msnbc headquarters in new york. On the weekend eve of only the third impeachment trial of a u. S. President , this is a country facing a day of protests, serious deadlines on capitol hill, a News Conference thats taking place right now in alaska that could be pivotal. We are watching senator Lisa Murkowski speak with reporters at her home state of alaska, and at issue is whether she will call for witnesses in the Senate Impeachment l trial. If that happens, if she says so, we will bring those comments to you live. In the meantime, the managers in the impeachment trial, essentially the prosecutors are hard at work preparing a brief that summarizes their argument. The deadline for that brief to be filed is just about three hours away. Also today, President Trumps lawyers have until 6 00 p. M. Eastern time to respond to the formal summons issued by senators on thursday night. The president s legal team has a monday noon deadline to finish their brief outlining how they plan to defend their client. All that paves the way for what happens on tuesday, the start of the impeachment trial of donald john trump. We go first to someone who will be on capitol hill covering those proceedings, my colleague Leanne Caldwell. Give us a sense of whats happening in alaska today. There were a handful of senators that you and your colleagues on capitol hill are watching more closely than others. What are you looking to hear from the senator from alaska . Reporter yeah, senator Lisa Murkowski is absolutely one of those senators that were watching. Thats because shes one that has indicated that she would be open to a more expansive senate trial, one that includes new witnesses like john bolton or mick mulvaney, who we didnt hear from over in the house investigation. But what murkowski has said up until this point is that she will consider perhaps new witnesses, but she doesnt want to consider that until late in the process, and that is where democrats and republicans completely disagree on this issue is democrats want an agreement on witnesses at the forefro forefront. You could be sure that theyre going to force that issue on tuesday when Mitch Mcconnell releases his organizing resolution to set the parameters of this trial, which i will note no one has or we the press, the public, the democrats, even a lot of the republican senators have not seen the text of this organizing resolution yet, so we dont really know a whole lot of whats in it. Were told that its similar to the clinton one, not to get too wongky in here, but the rules matter. And when were only about two to three days away from the start of this trial, not understanding what rules youre operating under is disconcerting to a lot of democrats here. Its a rare treat to see you on capitol hill on saturday. We have this list of managers who are going to be making the case from the house to the senate. What are they up to this weekend . What do we know about the preparations theyre undertaking at this point in time . Reporter yeah, theyre working. They have that brief deadline at 1 00, which we expect them to meet that deadline. The seven house manager, the prosecutors of this case, theyre going to gather again on capitol hill, and theyre going to coordinator and really condense and refine the case that theyre going to make and start presenting next week. And then monday, which is a federal holiday here, of course its Martin Luther king jr. Day, they are going to be here working. Theyre going to take a walk through of the senate chamber, which has been transformed to look more like a courtroom. Tables have been brought in for the defense, for the prosecution. Theres new offices set up, and so theyre definitely underway with their final preparations ahead of this, you know, big historic moment, david. Absolutely. Leanne caldwell. My colleague on capitol hill, thank you very much. Well check in with you throughout the day. Katie fang joins me, shes an attorney and msnbc legal contributor talking about the work at hand, writing these briefs. What do we know what theyre going to look like, what these lawyers who happen to be members of congress hammer out here. Other than the senate rules of impeachment, we dont have any templates by which people can go on. Looking at the clinton impeachment process is really illustrative, that is going to be what ends up youre going to have these deadlines we just heard about at the beginning of the segment as to when these breefsd are going to be filed. They will have citations to the law. They will make arguments. There will be an explanation by the house managers as to why these particula