Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson 201612

MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson December 5, 2016

Unqualified. Plus new candidates for secretary of state. And after an attack in washington, new concerns about fake news and its reallife consequences. We have a lot to get to today. We are starting with breaking news. The deadly warehouse fire in oakland, california. We are learning now that 36 people have died and fire officials expect the number to get higher. It is not clear what started the fire, but they cant keep investigating now because the building itself is just not stable enough for responders to head inside. Moments ago president obama released a statement about the fire saying, today our prayers go out to the people of oakland in the aftermath of this weekends deadly warehouse fire, one of the worst fires in the states history. An American Community has been devastated and many people including young men and women with their futures ahead have tragically lost their lives. Joining me now is nbc correspondent gadi swartz. Fill us in on what we expect this afternoon. Right now at this scene, all work, all recovery work has come to a stop. As you mentioned the building is too unstable for emergency crews to enter. Just to give you an idea of how hot the fire was burning, when firefighters showed up on the scene they put up aluminum ladders which actually melted. We are told by some of the survivors of the fire that one of them actually jumped out about ten feet from one of the windows and ran down the street. Just a block over. There is a fire station. The fire engine was coming over but they got here and it was too late. This building was completely engulfed in flames. Right now the District Attorney here has put together a criminal investigation team. Not to say a criminal investigation is taking place now. They are starting to prep for that. Thats not to say that criminal charges have been filed. But that gives you an indication as to where things are headed. We are hearing a lot of reports from people that lived inside this building that there were things like propane heating systems, electrical skill lets, electrical wires and an exit a staircase that may have been blocked because there were so many electrical wires. A lot of questions at the scene. Right now the recovery effort has come to a halt. Back to you. You look at the warehouse and you have to imagine that in oakland in the bay area there are other similar kinds of warehouses where you have young men and women looking to find a place to live, not pay as much money. Is there an investigation into the status of the other locations . What are city officials doing to make sure Something Like this doesnt happen again . Thats a really good question. The focus seems to be right now here at what happened at this particular warehouse. There are other warehouses throughout oakland. Its got a vibrant Art Community. A lot of people live in the warehouses because they cant afford to live in the bay area. This is an area thats seen a lot of gentrification, an increase in rents. The Silicon Valley is nearby. These artists live in these. Some are licensed. Some are zoned for habitation. But some of them are not. From what we have heard people in the Art Community have said this one was, as they described it, sketchy. This was one where they didnt want to live. They say they came to concert venues and didnt feel safe. Some are worried there might be a crackdown that could lead to them living on the streets. I know you will stay on top of it up there in northern california. Appreciate it. Now to politics. A lot happening in that universe as well. The latest specifically in president elect trumps transition to the white house. We have our team of reporters standing by. Nbcs Anne Thompson live outside trump tower. Nbcs janice fryer live in beijing because we are talking about china today. I want to start with you in new york. We have seen very interesting comings and goings in the last hour and a half or so. Fill us in. It certainly has been an interesting parade of people here. The treasury secretary designate just walked in a few minutes ago. Perhaps the most interesting person on the list is former Vice President al gore. He went in to trump tower before 11 30. He was set to meet with ivanka trump who is reportedly deciding she wants to make Climate Change one of her signature issues. As you know, al gore is the nations leading voice on Climate Change. Gore just left the trump tower minutes ago. On his way out he spoke to reporters and said, he not only meat with ivanka but also with the president elect donald trump. Now i spoke to al gore during the campaign. I interviewed him back in may. He was very reluctant to criticize donald trump even though donald trump had said he thinks Climate Change is a chinese hoax. He thought that the u. S. Should pull out of the paris agreement. Thats the agreement the world reached to reduce Greenhouse Gases. Those are the gases that cause Climate Change. Al gore has always tried to keep a door open to donald trump. In large part because he thinks he can appeal to his business sensibilities and make the case that moving to a Clean Energy Economy is good for business. Its a jobs creator that creates good will around the world and also creates better air. Vice president gore just left here a few minutes ago. By far hes the most interesting name on the meeting list today. I dont want to walk away from the topic yet. This is all happening in the last maybe seven or eight minutes here that al gore left trump tower. We heard this morning there were no plans, in fact, for him to meet with president elect trump. The meeting was only supposed to be with ivanka trump. We are learning he did, in fact, sit down with the president elect, called it an extremely interesting conversation. And to be continued, according to remarks he made to reporters just moments ago walking out of the building. As you have talked about you are somebody who covered al gore. You have covered him recently, this campaign season. What do you think he means if you can speculate by to be continued . Well, i think it means al gore has just started making his case for continuing what gore would like to see and thats a continuation of the progress of the United States has made on reducing Greenhouse Gas emissions and also leading the world, compelling the world to reduce its Greenhouse Gas emissions as well. You remember president obama and china reached a very crucial agreement about a year ago that both countries, the two largest emitters of Greenhouse Gases would work to reduce their own Greenhouse Gases showing the world that if the two biggest emitters could do it, so could the world. So as far as the to be continued part of that conversation, i think for those in the environmental world, that would certainly come as good news. Because on the other side, all those things that the president elect has said regarding Climate Change hassed made people in the environmental world very, very nervous about what the next four years would look like. Thank you very much. We are just getting in email now a bit more from the remarks al gore made talking about the meeting with the president elect calling it a lengthy and very productive session adding that it was a sincere search for areas of common ground. You have heard the Transition Team talk about the desire to reach out to people who may not see eye to eye with them on every issue. Folks from across the aisle. This appears to be one example of that. Peter alexander, we are watching this develop right now. Its not just al gore coming to meet with ivanka trump and apparently president elect trump as well. Some secretary of state contenders are set to come in this week. Rex tillerson for example, meeting with him tomorrow. What do we know about the secretary of state search . Youre right. Whats striking is we were reporting as it was communicated to us we were down to the final four. We were in the closing stages. We were all in on rudy giuliani, mitt romney, perhaps David Petraeuss name was included in the conversation. There was some pushback about the idea of another general at the upper level of a trump cabinet, a trump administration. Now the new names being floated include the name of the former governor as we look at David Petraeus and this man, john huntsman, president obamas ambassador to china for a period of time. We spoke to him, one of the reporters today. He laughed off the idea of whether he would be the best selection for secretary of state. He was one of the people. Its interesting. His inclusion on this list was striking. He was one of the people earlier on who was more willing to embrace the idea of what donald trump was tapping into, the idea of populism, a Movement Across the country. Admiral james devries, we hear thats not likely to be a secretary of state candidate. Nonetheless donald trump recognizes more than anything else as indicated by the long list of name the import associated by what he makes of the selection. Before we got off the air i got off the phone with someone who said they bring the benefits of mitt romney but without the baggage of never having led the Trump Movement which still bugs some in the inner circle. I covered hunts d man for part of the 2012 campaign. You know from covering politics. Hes a widely liked guy. Hes well spoken. He knows the issues. Hes a funny guy and you could see a relationship develop with donald trump. Before we talk more about the president elects diplomatic efforts i want to touch on ben carson. Hes the pick now for housing and urban Development Secretary of state. He accepted the offer. An aide told me he came to the decision after thinking about it for a couple of weeks. There is new reaction from democrats and republicans. Its dividing along party lines. Thats right. As his name was floated in the cabinet talks he had conversations with Armstrong Williams who told you and me something to the effect of he doesnt have the experience to run a major bureaucracy like this, like any Real Department which was interesting given the fact that he had just run for president of the United States. Lets put up the statements from republicans now. Widely praising him. Mitch mcconnell saying im confident his life long career of Selfless Service will be a positive addition to the administration. Lindsey graham saying dr. Carson is a smart and talented individual. Im sure he will be an agent of change in a department that could stand some change. You talk about the divide. It exists and there will be partisan divides thats for certain. Nancy pelosi expressing the views of democrats saying dr. Ben carson is a disconcerting and disturbingly unqualified choice to lead a department as complex and consequential as housing and urban development. Saying he lacks the el are vent experience to protect the rights of homeowners and renters specifically low income and minority communities in this country. We are likely expecting more cabinet announcements in the next couple of weeks. In the meantime, there is fallout from the call accepted by the president elect from the taiwanese leader. Josh earnest reacted to this issue and to china overall a little bit ago. Listen. I think it is hard to determine exactly what the aim was of the president elect. The Vice President elect and his Campaign Manager when asked about this over the weekend indicated that these were Courtesy Calls, that was a Courtesy Call and the president elect was returning the call. Janice, when you listen to the White House Press secretary, look at the reaction from the Chinese Government and Chinese People how do you see it playing out and what have you heard where you are . Reporter well, china has warned donald trump that he is risking confrontation over this call with taiwan. A front page editorial in the peoples daily here which makes all of the major policy announcements for the party said the call could mean for u. S. China relations and for the u. S. Itself. There is a sharpening of tone here. Initially officials were quick to try to veer it towards the need to protect stable relations. They havent always been warm relations. There have been disputes between china and the u. S. Over things like currency, trade and the south china sea. Donald trumps tweets today over those thorny issues have amplified the sense that the chinabashing rhetoric we heard during the campaign may actually be forming his new china policy. Janice stayed up all night for us in china. Peter alexander here on set and Anne Thompson, thank you very much for being with us. Today that brings us to the microsoft pulse question. Do you think president elect trumps controversial call with taiwans leader jeopardizes u. S. Relations with china . What do you think . A Foreign Policy bent today. Head to pulse. Msnbc. Com. We wantr thoughts as we have so muchore in the next 50 minutes or so. Coming up, a stand off with a gunman at a washington pizzeria sparked by a fake news story about Hillary Clinton. Is fake news free speech or should it be sencensored . We have a look ahead in the del daily debate. First a month long trial for a Police Officer accused of killing an unarmed Police Officer after the jurors said they are basically deadlocked. Te diabetic nerve pain. Shoots and burns its way into your day, i hear you. To everyone with this pain that makes ordinary tasks extraordinarily painful, i hear you. 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Friday afternoon it looked like, as you phrased it, we were in the bottom of the 9th headed for a mistrial. Where are we now . Reporter good afternoon. If it was the bottom of the 9th friday there are definitely extra innings today. We got news this morning. We expected the jury to come back and come into deliberations this morning. They sent several questions to the judge and told the judge unlike what we thought on friday that this was an 111 deadlock, according to a note sent to the judge a majority of jurors were still undecided and the defense attorney for Michael Slager andy savage seized on that and asked the judge for a mistrial but the judge didnt do that. Several questions the jury sent to the judge this morning, five questions. Here are three of them. Why was voluntary manslaughter offered in addition to murder . That was the first question the jury had. They asked what is meant by imminent danger . And also, is the idea of selfdefense apply the same for a Police Officer as an ordinary citizen . Clearly the jury is still dwrapling with grappling with many of the issues. We heard on friday that it was hopelessly deadlocked. That there was a lone juror that said to the judge he could not in good conscience convict Michael Slager. It appears now at least several more we dont know exactly where they are falling whether it be murder or manslaughter. A lot of people here at the courthouse wondering how long it could go on. Do we have an indication . We dont know, right . Reporter they are at a recess now. They left the courthouse for a few minutes. They are expected back at 2 00 p. M. We should get an update then. We dont know. Thanks, gabe. Ari, following up on what gabe is reporting here, to a layperson, i thi

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