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MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson August 1, 2018 14:00:00

That so directly today. Also tweeting about Paul Manafort, feeling frustrated, even victimized you might say that if there was, in fact, this previous investigation that we now know did exist where authorities had been looking at Paul Manafort back in 2014 about his Financial Issues which are the subject of the trial now, not directly related to the campaign. The president writes, Paul Manafort worked for ronald reagan, bob dole and many other highly prominent and respected political leaders. He worked for me for a very short time. It was roughly five months or so. Why didnt government let me know he was under investigation . These old charges have nothing to do with collusion, a hoax. The president is right there that the Financial Issues that are being examined are not about the campaign. Paul manafort worked for him for several months and he worked for him with the express purpose of helping the convention, people forget, you and i lived it, many of our viewers lived it with us that Paul Manafort was brought in to be the deal maker at the day two. Were starting to see the strategies laid out, shaking out on both sides, can you walk us to the framing of each of these arguments here and what we expected to . Reporter today the jury will hear from more people who knew about Paul Manaforts work in ukraine. The government is laying a careful foundation for his work, the president of ukraine who paid manafort millions of dollars. Right now this is going to be a slog through emails, but with people who worked with manafort to try to sketch out the details of what the work he did for them and then the prosecutors will then proceed to how he got paid. What the government says here is that they didnt simply sign a check to Paul Manafort that supporters of the ukraine president put money in a bank in cypress so that he was not paid directly. What they said is, these oligarchs as the government called them in ukraine did not want it known publicly who they Coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. The president is saying. The Manafort Trial prosecutors dont even expect their witnesses to say the words donald trump. Its separate issues, financial crimes, unrelated to his work specifically for the Trump Campaign. That said, the president is clearly upset about the Special Counsel investigation that is leading to this trial, a trial which is, in fact, concrete evidence of the Special Counsels investigations work even though we dont know how itll turn out. You have 12 russians indicted a couple weeks ago for interfering with the election in addition to the russians who were indicted before that. Does the president also believe that work is a disgrace and should come to an end . I am almost certain he feels that way. He cannot separate collusion from Election Meddling from following the money with Paul Manafort. This is a big deal and sends a clear signal to the president that this socalled witch hunt is not ending. It is the first trial to come out of Robert Muellers investigation and the president is getting freaked out about this and this is all coming as facebook just unveiled this coordinated campaign of Election Interference which is under all of this investigation applying to 2016 but 2018. You have what the president is about manafort in the past Kellyanne Conway was brought on when they were in a real hot mess. I brought paul in because a very, very smart friend of mine who knew him very well said he is fantastic and hes somewhat political. Paul manafort whos a good man also, by the way, he was replaced long before the election took place. He was only there for a short period of time. He was with the campaign as you know for a very short period of time but ive known him to be a good name. Paul manaforts a nice guy, he worked for me for a very short period of time, literally like a couple months, little period of time. Manafort has nothing to do with our campaign. Sahill . Its the Tip Of The Iceberg. Its the first of many i think prosecutions that mueller is going to pursue and it is a signal to people around the president as to how Fearsome Mueller is. Can we fight him . Do we need to cooperate with him . All of that is going to be out there. All of that is that people around the president including his family and former aides will watch closely. I just had a conversation with some sources over on the hillside and the conversation came up specifically surrounding Election Interference and the president s reaction to it. This is something that people are watching incredibly closely. The president s reaction and whether he actually takes any steps moving forward. Now he has directed the Attorney General to end the investigation, to end the Special Counsel investigation. Whats happening at the doj right now . Are they in crisis mode or pretty smooth sailing as they go about their work . Youve worked there. Its some where in between. In my experience the men and women at doj both within the main justice and fbi are simply going about their business doing their jobs, but it is not a good situation given the unprecedented comments by the president and the pressure that hes attempting to put on the department. I think largely and interestingly, the ag, the dep ty ag, the fbi director, theyre more or less ignoring what the president is saying. Thank you for coming on. We are just three months now away from the midterms and once again this election is under attack. 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So thats the challenge facing democrats and republicans on capitol hill and this hearing is want to hear from experts about how these campaigns evolve and what potential solutions there might be to try to combat them going forward. Mark warner the democratic vice chairman of the Senate Committee wrote up a white paper. He has a background himself in Technology Companies having worked as a Tech Executive and theres a wide range of proposals, a lot of different types of things, the honest ads act, there are some other ideas around whether you can take your information with you if companies could have a fiduciary responsibility to consumers. Take a listen to what senator blumenthal had to say a few minutes ago. The Warning Lights are blinking red again. Thats what dan coats, director of National Intelligence told us, thats what facebooks detection of these intrusions mean. I give facebook a lot of credit for detecting this continuing russian campaign, really an act of war against our country, that now the Trump Campaign has to act which so far it has failed to do. Reporter he was referencing dan coats who said all the Warning Lights are blinking red for the country in trying to deal and grapple with this. Facebook had been pretty reluctant to get out in front of any of this. They held a Conference Call with reporters where they refused to say if russians were meddling. They still havent said definitively if thats the case but there are suggestions it could be. Halle . Thank you. Joe, youve been reporting so much on facebook, what theyve been doing. But we have some new reporting now and what else was involved in this foreign influence report that facebook did not reveal take us through it. Thats right. The business went through some web archives to look at the ads that facebook provided yesterday, the accounts and the pages to see what else was underneath and what we found was much more divisive rhetoric. A lot of it was Sewing Division and discord among africanamericans and hispanics. Its a covert operation, a lot of the issues that were put forward by facebook they say that people who were behind it are actually covering their tracks better this time around using Virtual Private Networks and third parties as well. Theres a Senate Intel Hearing going on right now and were getting some new reporting and new information out of that on examples of foreign influence in the lead up to the 2016 race. The reason this matters right now is that its a nugget of hints of what we can expect for 2018 and ira activity thats been disclosed now is people most frequently interacted with po posts on facebook that were pro right wing so were getting more of that picture, halle. Jo ling kent, i know youll stay on top of that. The big question, of course, and thank you, jo, is how might we protect ourselves moving forward . Thats what lawmakers are trying to deal with. With us now is robert johnston. He founded the marine corps. National Cyber Protection team. Thank you for coming on. When you look at the reporting we just laid out from kasie and jo, how much do we not have a handle on this and how much further to we have to go . Is it going to get done in time for the midterms . The American People wanted to know whether indicts and public attribution were enough to deter the russian government, it was enough to deter the chinese but the American People have that answer. Its not enough to deter the russian government from acting out. Youre talking about the russians, facebook didnt talk about the russians. They did not lay the blame squarely on the russians. Others are like james clapper. Watch. Its actually the russians. Im pretty confident it is, you know, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck sort of thing. This is only the Tip Of The Iceberg and i think you also need to look at the other platforms, twitter, for example, and see whats happening there. I think its much more widespread than what has been exposed by facebook so far. That is a scary as dan coats described it. Is this administration doing enough to fight it . I dont think so. Theres not a successful deterrent model. Facebook wasnt ready directly to name the russians. They did say admin accounts were admin accounts they were deleted. I actually read facebooks post as a cry for help. It says, government, you need to step in and declare attribution. They say i will support and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Its a title 10 responsibility and title 50 responsibility. Facebook isnt ready but the government should be and they need to step up. If youre not seeing it from the executive branch, are you seeing more potential of that through the legislative branch, through congress . Well, ive always been, you know, leadership comes top down. You need to see it from the executive branch. Hes the one that owns the intel agencies. They work for him. His direct yifds are what theyre going to push. Its got to come from the top. Its tough to see those two headlines side by side. The white house has no coseeive plan to combat it. Thank you for coming on the show. President trump fired up in florida with another new Campaign Stop just announce this had morning in a different key state. He is on a Midterm Mission but is that a good thing or a bad thing for his fellow republicans . Were running the numbers next. Can be relentless. Tremfya® is for adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. Im ready. With tremfya®, you can get clearer. And stay clearer. 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