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MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Kate Snow April 18, 2017

Complicated and they instruct the federal agencies to review laws that favor american businesses and American Workers and everything from trade agreements to other situations where they are hiring. They are zeroing in on the visa. Its very popular with foreign student who is come to the United States to study and stay. The administrations argument is that this visa process has been abused by the Tech Industry and others to under cut American Workers by hiring workers at lower wages and denying americans jobs. So the period who settle said he would eliminate that is going to announce major changes to that. What the net impact will be remains to be seen. That gives you a sense of what he is trying to do. Talking about America First here in the heartland, an important part of his base. Hold on for a second. Let me go to you about this executive order that ron was laying out. I want to dig in on what it entail entailed. The first half is buy american. Federal agencies are being told to find and flag waivers and exceptions that agencies use to get around current buy american mandates. The second half is hire american which calls on executive agencies to aggressively vet the way that guest worker visas are being used and make sure they are awarded only those determined to be highly qualified. This is calling for a 220day review on those two things. What changes, do we think . We asked that question when i was part of a White House Briefing with senior officials. They said the only thing that changes immediately is the culture. They recognize that a lot of this will take a little bit of time. They are trying to send a message that they are following through on the economic nationalism. Like you said this is the start of a review process and they seem to have drawn conclusions. And in their view a lot of trade agreements included waivers that diluted the sort of buy american provisions that enabled countries and the u. S. And other Foreign Countries to get around the provisions or ignore them. There is a sense that the enforcement, some of which have been on the books since the 30s, the enforcement has gone away and they want to tighten it up as it pertains to buy american. On the higher front, this is the centerpiece of this. There 85,000 people who apply for and get the vis as every year to provide Skilled Labor for tech companies. There is more controversy around that. Less broad support for that and question about whether the people as they contend under cutting americans and whether or not these people are needed by Technology Companies and without these visas, they are not going to be able to find the people to take the jobs. On that note, i want to turn to julia. You wrote in 2015 one of the pieces about dizzy me and something they did that got a lot of attention. They hired new workers and got rid of people and asked them to train the new workers who were taking over jobs in in many cases the new ones came from india from a company. There have been other companies that have done the same thing. Does it make sense to reform the system . Absolutely. This is a program that could be useful to some American Tech Companies. There is rampant abuse of the program. This has been used by outsourcing companies to bring in temporary workers mostly from india. Mostly in the Tech Industry. There has been a wholesale replacement of middle class tech worker by the tech workers. They bring their people in and in some cases you see what happened to disney which is the americans have to sit next to the indian worker and train that worker to do the job as a condition of their separation agreement. This kind of displementf American Workers has been happening this this program. Among other things t makes it difficult for American Tech Companies that do need certain very highly skilled people to get the visas. Thats what i was going to pick up on. Ron insan a that was the point of the program in the first place. To help Companies Like the Silicon Valley companies that need high tech people and they argue that they need those folks. To a certain extent. A lot of this is blown out of proportion. There are 5. 7 million open jobs in the United States right now. Talking about 85,000 visas that include those graduate student visas as well. 20,000 go to students. From a policy perspective to worry less about this than to make sure the workers who have been displaced or want to get into high tech fields want to get into education or retraining. Whether in manufacturing or high tech. From my perspective, that misses the boat. This is not a real economic problem, but in some ways its imagined. There are abuses, but the economy needs new workers. Economic growth is a growing labor force and productivity. That equals gdp growth. Unless we expand the labor force, we restrain our own growth. Isnt that what we are likely to hear the president talk about when he stands up in kenosha. He is going to say jobs, jobs, jobs. Which jobs do you want to bring back . We had a million coworkers and today you had 70,000. There are industries that in fact are growing that require Skilled Labor that need educated individuals to move the economy forward. We shouldnt be looking at going backwards and restricting the growth of the labor force in the United States which is integral to the growth of the economy. This is a small percentage of the workforce. 85,000 people a year when we are creating close to 200,000 jobs a month. This is political misdirection as opposed to economic reality. You wrote an article about immigration and just in the last couple of days about the administration tightening the grip on the border and you said the border is everywhere. The not just on the mexico line. Talk about that and as it relates to what we are talking about with h 1 b. This is kind of a separate issue. I think that President Trump has in the case of the h 1 brk Program Identified a program that there is actually bipartisan support for making changes in that program. These are visas we didnt intend for those visas to be used to displace American Workers which is what is happening now. I think with certain tech workers, this is going to resonate that President Trump is bringing forward. On the deportations front, he has eliminated most of the priorities that the Obama Administration brought to bear that spared families and people who have been here for a long time of deportation. On that front, there is a very significant change in the policy where practices by federal prosecutors that have been applied at the border to stop people who just came across the border are now going to be applied to families across the country. Even in a place like kenosha, wisconsin, somebody who has been there for a long time and violated the law. It could happen. Let me go back to you. I dont mean to ignore you. Politically speak, why does he choose to go to wisconsin today. He has not been on a tour where he does a rally. He could have picked anywhere across the rust belt and ohio or pennsylvania to highlight this. This was really the sweet spot for his pitch during the election. The depressed blue collar communities and reagan democrats who people who had not voted republican in a while and felt like the party had forgotten what mattered to them a lost sight of their economic needs. Trumps America First message was critical to winning the people over and giving this unconventional candidate a chance to govern. This is really him attempting to followthrough. As ron said, this may amount to a political misdirection, but political theater counts for a lot in this count culture and country right now. You have him touring a plant and talking about buy first, America First priorities. Painting with a very broad brush. A week or so after he reversed course said china is no longer a currency manipulator. He needs to hammer the points home with the voter who is may have started to doubt whether he meant what he said on the economy. Whether or not these reviews and this one executive order leads to tangible changes and improvements remains to be seen. In terms of buying him time and demonstrating to the country that he is following through on this commitment and this message, thats what today is meant to accomplish. I dont know if we god advanced remarks or script, but he is back Stage Touring the area . Exactly. He is scheduled to speak at about 20 after the hour. We will see if he sticks to schedule. There is that uneasy nobody knows whats going on sort of thing happening and everybody is waiting and expecting the place to erupt when he arrives. This is not a campaign event. We are on the grounds of a company. These are employees for the most part and people from the community. There are people representing a Community College to drive home the message the connection between this company and young people in america. Vocational skills to essentially come back or come into this company or Companies Like it. One point on the visa issue. Its a very, very popular thing with students around the country. A few weeks ago, we did a story that aired on the sunday show about how there is a negative reaction. Young people, to america and the Trump Administration pursuing this. For many young students, this is their route into america and how they see america. They see it as a negative thing. A protectionist thing and antifoesher thing. There is that potential backlash. We are talking about hundreds of thousands of people who apply. This year there was a Record Number of people applying. They were concerned that the Trump Administration was going to end or alter the program in a way that was negatively impactful. He is playing to his base and thats more important to him. His critics are saying he is doing this because they lost health care and had to reverse on china and other issues. They have done these aggressive things and syria. The Cruise Missile attacks. He is here doing this for his base to drive home that message more than anything. I saw you nodding along. What it was meant to be. This is a program that is for those with masters degrees and has uses that are important for american companies. They get most of the applications and visas that go to indian temporary workers coming to displace the americans from their job. This is a community that will resonate with them. Hoe how closely is wall street watching . Not too closely. There are other issues whether its north korea or european elections that are currently affecting markets. If you look at the evidence with respect to immigration and other types of economic competition, i will paraphrase for one second. There is a line i have to paraphrase. Bill the butcher was complaining as the irish would come off the boats. What white natives used to do for a quarter. Immigrants drive down domestic wages whether it was the irish or any group that has come. There is no data that suggests that is true. This is one of the stocking horses about others that you can blame the loss of jobs on. 90 of jobs that have been lost are to innovation. Not immigration or globalization. Thats the economic reality. Ron allen and julia preston, thank you all. Appreciate you being here. Up next, the nationwide manhunt is over. Steve stevens who Cleveland Police recorded himself killing an ellerly man and posted it on facebook ended his in his car across the ohio border in pennsylvania. We have the details about that showdown and the mcdonalds as we wait for Pennsylvania State police to hold a News Conference. We are waiting for President Trump to take the stage any minute now in wisconsin. We will bring you his remarks live as soon as they happen. Stay with us. Think again. This is the new new york. We are building new airports all across the state. New roads and bridges. New mass transit. New business friendly environment. New lower taxes. And new University Partnerships to grow the businesses of tomorrow today. Learn more at esd. Ny. Gov no one burns on my watch try alka seltzer heartburn relief chews. They work fast and dont taste chalky. Mmmmm. Amazing. I have heartburn. Alka seltzer heartburn relief chews. Enjoy the relief. Except for every ladies night. Vegetarian. Only glad has forceflex to prevent rips, leaks, and punctures. So whatever you throw in the bag. Stays in the bag. Be happy, its glad. The massive manhunt for Steve Stevens is over after a brief twomile pursuit. He shot and killed himself in his car. We are expecting a News Conference from the Pennsylvania State police in just a few minutes. On sunday, police in ohio said that stevens recorded himself shooting a man and uploading that video to facebook. For more, i want to turn to jacob rascon who is following the developments from cleveland. The most interesting thing i have heard this afternoon is how this all went down in erie, pennsylvania. A bunch of employees at a mcdonalds made the call. Reporter right, it looks like the outreach here in the Police Department paid off. They held a lot of press conferences and really wanted everybody not just in cleveland and ohio, but the surrounding states and beyond to be on the look out and that paid off. Hundreds of tips over the last couple of days when they made it a nationwide search last night. In the end it happened at a mcdonalds near erie, pennsylvania. What we understand is they got a tip from a sides who we know is an employee at the mcdonalds there. This is stevens we are talking about. He had gone through the drive through to make an order. At that time an employee noticed him and called police. It was right as he was taking off that police arrived. As you said, just a short twomile pursuit or so. After that they tried a pit maneuver to get to him and turn the car sideways. They did that and after that happened, stevens took a hand gun and shot himself in the head and killed himself. As far as Pennsylvania State police knows, no one else was hurt. With the owner, they describe what happened. I came through the drive through. They placed an order and got to the first window where we pay. The drive through employee working at the time recognized him or thought or noticed that of car was ohio tags and a white fusion. Took his money and he pulled to the next window and meanwhile she stepped out and called the state police right away. I pulled my front drive through girl out of the window and had myself and my supervisor present at the window and basically told him it was going to be a minute for his fries which it wasnt. We were trying to make sure he got in contact with the state police. He didnt want to wait for the fries and he took thepiece and didnt want to wait for change. He turned right on buffalo road and the police were right behind him at that point. As was mentioned, the Pennsylvania State police will hold their own press conference. Not to be forgotten is the initial victim on easter sunday. Robert god win who was taking a walk while his family was preparing the easter dinner. He was just chosen at random, we understand. He was shot on the spot. A father of nine and grandfather of 14. His family has been stunned and reeling and just very emotional. In fact they spoke out i believe it was last night and said they have no room in their hearts for hate and forgave the person. Im sorry. I dont mean to cut you off. We want to go to the president speaking in kenosha, wisconsin. That is sweeping across our country and even greater than the great day in november when i won the state of wisconsin and when we won the presidency. That was a great day. That was a great day and thank you, wisconsin. No administration has accomplished more in the first 90 days that includes on military and the border and on trade or on regulation and law enforce am. We love our Law Enforcement. And on government reform. Today we are building on that optimism. Im proud to announce we are about to take bold new steps to followthrough on my pledge to buy american and hire american. I cant think of a better place to make this announcement than right here at snap on. I just took a tour of the company. Good place, by the way. Doing well too. Standing among the workers who make the tools that will rebuild our nation. Your craftsmanship is incredible. Its a pleasure to see my good friend Governor Scott walker. He has been such a big help. He has been so incredible. Stand up, scott. Governor walker. As well as senator ron johnson. We worked hard together. Thank you, ron. And although he could not be here today, my thanks go to speaker ryan who has represented the city for nearly two decades in congress. You know where he is . He is with nato. He has a good excuse. I said ron, make sure these countries start paying their bills a little bit more. They are way, way behind. Im going to talk to you about that, ron. But paul, you are over with nato. Get them to pay their bills. You have to work on that too. Scott, you are here, you dont have to bother. We will keep you here for a little while. Also with us is a famous local resident, the pride of kenosha, reince priebus, my chief of staff. Where is reince . What a good man. There he is. In fact we flew over his house on the way up and he got excited. He was taking pictures of it. Reince went to school right here just about a mile away where he took his wife sally to the prom. That was a m

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