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Peace process, but leaving the specifics up in the air. Why does it matter . Think back to how this year has unfolded. Powell positioned herself, when she came in, part of that wing or faction in the white house. Jared kushner, ivanka trump, but since then working to build rips with people like h. R. Mcmaster is someone that the president trusts and looks to in some of these big settings and high profile moments. And she has influence here in the west wing. That said there have also been questions about her own sort of positioning or the rumors or speculation of where she wanted to end up. She was widely rumored to have wanted to get back to new york. Her family is still there. Which is obviously potentially part of what plays into this. But i would note just a couple things here. Number one this may be just the start of what were now seeing year book calling every day in twitter. Calling into that yearbook specifically. There is room to question the voracity of Beverly Young nelsons reports. It doesnt push aside the fact fact that there is eight other women out there. There are people that are questioning the womens stories. So one, i guess one little piece of this story that Doesnt Add Up and is now walked back okpen up some questions here. People want to vote for roy moore. And the question that i will be asking is if this opening gifts them an opportunity to go back to roy moore. Set the stage for tonight. County. He lost to the democrat in that county. We are seeing requests for those Absentout Sesentee ballots. I think in the next few days we have been looking at a little polling that has been all over the place and it is really tough to determine where we are. So i guess a question that a lot of people are asking is can the President Sway the race. A lot of what we heard already on twitter, online when he has been talking about this, and i want to pull up a couple tweets, just ahead as he looks to going to look at some of the tweets, i will note that the president will be departing. He play stop and answer questions from reporters that gather on the white house. Again, the president reemphasized again today, and is almost tern to do so begun tonight. As you see the president talking about here, there are officials that say this is a make America Great again rally, that said again that may be a distinction. The president will be asked about and i think he will be asked about the opening tomorrow. I think it is a very busy weekend for trump. Well talk about this later on in the show. Joining us now to continue the conversation is the washington Political Reporter. And the reporter and columnist. In a column you wrote, you sited a poll that found that six in ten women are likely to vote for roy moore. What do you think of the latest . And yet it turns out that the woman in the case admits to adding some notes. The signature was never the determining factor for what side of the finish they fell on. So foes that want to believe, perhaps the accuse r. Perhaps thats will be something for them to couch their vote on, people have made up their mind, many of the women on the same side as roy moore are on it because they are conservative, they have traditional values in the areas of abortion and traditional values. I also want to bring in a gop strategist. 53 of white women helped elect donald trump over hillary clinton. At the time, trump faced more than a dozen allegations. Is this just an issue that republican women are not concerned about . Are we in a very different time in our acceptance of what were willing to put up with from our candidates . I feel like this is a very different time and since trump was elected to the me too movement, it changed yet again. I think the tolerance is really on with basically women on either side of the isle, i dont think they are excusing it. I think even if youre not excusing it, could they be saying but i will still vote for him. This is not the determining factor for me . It was the factor for many women that voted for trump. It is unfair that he is even a candidate in the first place. Right, here is what youre asking a woman voter to do. Youre asking a woman gop voter to get in and vote against the platform or the Republican Party that roy moore is representing and vote for someone that is pro choice. This is a big deal. It is an evangelical community. This is what theyre having trouble with. Unfortunately roy moore is campaigning with jesus. This is the unfortunate part. You have all of these allegations, it looks horrible. He is probably going to win. The problem of it is that i dont think the what you asked me i dont think the gop, the woman voter in alabama, is excusing roy moore. I think they have been put in a position to choose between which platform they like. And he just happens to represent the platform. I think it is horrible. I was going to ask josh. He lives in alabama, he has been a long time Political Reporter there. I want you to weigh in on both of these things, is your sex important to how you vote or dont vote for roy moore . Is gloria alred more of a help to him than a indrans. How do you see the next few days playing out . I think all of those things make a difference and you know, first i will say that roy moore is not really campaigning with jesus, he just likes to think he is. Who is they . A lot of times youll the conservative news media, facebook groups, things like that where people get their information from, and you hear awful stories from people about what they read on facebook or the news sources they have chosen here. A lot of that misinformation is playing into that situation as well. They have a reason to doubt some of the allegations and you have a set up where they have to choose between the democratic platfo platform, the republican flat form, and it boils down to one issue only and that is abortion. And that has been made the primary platform here and slapped on doug jones, that he wants full term abortions. So a lot of these women are having to choose between someone they believe is for full term abortion and this other person who they would not ordinarily vote fir for. Senator cory booker coming in this weekend, john lewis were being told is scheduled to be at a rally on sunday, could that make the difference . Theyre certainly hoping so. Were seeing black lawmakers that hold a lot of significance coming down later than you would have expected someone to bring political stars to the elector rate. The reality is were past the Voter Registration deadline and some of the people they could have motivated to go out to the post now cannot because they have been brought on so late. I think part of the reason they were brought on so late is the campaign was banking on hoping to flip wide moderates or people disgusted with roy moore. It could cost them in the end. Thank you to all of you, much appreciated. Make sure you catch meet the press daily. He will speak with voters ahead of tuesdays election. And we have some Breaking News next in the russia investigation. What we just learned about bob muellers next move that has to do with Paul Manafort. A power p. This is tim barckholtz. Thats me this is something he is researching at exxonmobil using fuel cells to capture carbon emissions at power plants. This is the potential. Reducing Co2 Emissions by up to 90 . While also producing more power. This could be big. Energy lives here. 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Xeljanz xr can reduce the symptoms of ra, even without methotrexate. Ask your rheumatologist about xeljanz xr. Warrants, financial records that have been obtained. Let me bring in nbc news. It was first reported as i understand by the new york times. Tell us what we know. Now that paulman fort and rick gates have been diindicted Robert Mueller has to turn over all of the investigation. There was a court filing today describing their efforts to do that and it gives us insights into the scope of the investigation and the volume of evidence is just norm, so they have turned over more than 400,000 documents in total including 2,000 items they consider particularly important to the defense, and it includes bank records from exotic locations like cypress in the caribbean. It underscoring the scope of this White Collar Fraud investigation. They had to go through all of this stuff and make sense of it. So let me go back. I kind of stopped at 400,000 that kind of blew me away frankly. What do we know again about the break down of those documents and is this normal . You know, experts say its not abnormal. Complex White Collar Fraud, they get everything. They get every last document. Thats how they make these fraud and Money Laundering cases. This seems like a lot, frankly, 400,000 documents. But i think what experts would tell you is that this is the way these complex white collar investigations work. Lawyers i have talked to are particularly impressed with the way the muler team is going after this. They say the fbi agents are some of the best in the world and theyre being comprehensive in how they approach these cases. Domestic financial records totaling more than 116,000 pages, and the government with 189,000 items on a hard drive, where does it fit into the investigation. We know what the fruits of this were. It was a Multicount Indictment accusing these men of very serious crimes. This is the financial records, the emails, the statements of these men, everything that mueller has got that goes into proving this case. The defense has a right to look at, go over, and understand the scope of it. I think it is worth reminding people that the team put together by Robert Mueller has a lot of lawyers who are extremely experienced and are extremely well regarded in terms of these exact kinds of complexion gumts, putting the pieces together to understand what they mean, right . Yes, and they have the vast resources of the United States Intelligence Committee that was overseas. I have spoken to lawyers that took clients through and stunned with what the muler team knew about their clients. An a couple sources, and this was part of the new information on the russia investigation before this story broke. Two sources with direct knowledge say an email was sent to donald trump as a candidate and don junior before the Election Offering access to the hacked documents. What do we know now about this email, who sent it and its significance. He tells it was sent on september 14th, one day after a big dump by wiki leaks. He is claiming it pointed to stuff that was already public. Right now there is a lot of americay ne americmerkiness a this. Thank you so much, we really appreciate it. That story we just told you about with all of these documents first reported by the new york times, he has gotten to a camera now. And also msnbc political analyst and a Msnbc National Security analyst. Ken, first of all big scoop. What is your big headline here . I think ken covered a lot of it, talking about the kple hen sieve nature of mullers evidence gathering if is a step that shows the defendants what the prosecutors have. Thats what theyre doing here. Some of the interesting nuances here, images and copies of the hard drives that were gathered in that dramatic predawn raid that was the beginning of the escalation of this case as it pertained to manafort. Some of the folks around them i should say are upset they feel like the government is still Ev Evesdropping on him through his associates. We saw this case made by the government in opposing the bail package. They say he was working with this russian associate of his that is believed to have ties. How did they find out about that. It appears that the manafort associate is being monitored and thats how they were able to gather more information even as they are presenting what they knew from seizing information from manafort to even more lawyers. Theyre still collecting more. So if youre inside this investigation, you have 36 of these electronic devices. Nine seized as you said in that dramatic predawn raid. How would you divide, when you look at 400,000 documents, are there categories you can lay out they fit into . Yes, certainly. I mean a lot of it has to do with the work that Paul Manafort did representing this pro russian ukrainian government. That is a lot of the financial records, based on what they did with that money. A lot of the allegations about violating lobbying laws, but there is also a whole separate cat dpoir of wh category of wt Paul Manafort did on the campaign. But that is the universe of stuff that mueller is looking at. Its a big universe, and as we see now there is a whole lot of evidence. If you can stay with us, jeremy bash, give us yourceps of these categories and these kinds of documents. The turning over of them as has been pointed out, very normal, maybe even the number of them is not strikingly abnormal, but how important could they be from your perspective . I think this is very significant, kris for two reasons. It shows the strength and comprehensiveness and thoroughness of the investigation. They have a lot of data from them. It will put pressure on them to do what mike flynn did, plead out to a lesser charge were and potentially steph against them. Second i think the data could show us information as it comes out at trial or any of the pretrial motions about the methods the russians used to seal funds and off shore bank accounts. That indictment had not just words and paragraphs but an excel spreadsheet. Any time there is a spreadsheet in your indictment is not a good day. It shows wire transaxes. Off shore, sicypress, and other locations, that can indicate a way russians try to conceal money and it can help financial sleuths. If youre one of these differents, and your lawyer last just gotten this enormous Document Dump and they have to keep them calm, dont panic, we will handle this, what do you say to them . We see if there is any information they collected that is misunderstood or improblemer, but with this indictment for experience against the United States and the underlying conduct being Money Laundering and tax revaevasion, i think itl be difficult to do it without facing some conviction here. We think this will all wrap up very quickly. We know the president s lawyers tried to give him that information. Tried to calm him down in situations like this. What do you imagine is going on in the white house and with the president s lawyers right now . There is rising tension on the legal team about the strategy. And were looking for changing in strategy and the legal team itself. The army of outside advisors and a plies are sounding the alarm and taking aim at bob mueller himself. Blaming him for taking too wide of an angle on this and looking at too many things they dont believe were supposed to be part of the initial investigation. So youre seeing everybody start to melign bob mueller to protect the president from more indictments and bad news for the investigation. That could be a successful strategy, right . The people prone to believe that donald trump didnt do anything wrong and the media and Bob Mooulerer l mueller are liars and they will continue to believe that. That is members of congress. Many are lawyers and know and respect bob mueller. Is that strategy likely to have any real world impact . I think it could. I think we have seen already that when this administration, this political operation decides to Say Something and press a case, it doesnt matter if it is true or false, they will say it over and over and over again. And it will sing in, catch on, and change public. Perhaps. We thought initially if there was a conversation a few months ago, will they fire mueller, and they said oh, no, reallies really like him. He is beyond reproach and they could never do that. This week we saw republicans questioning the cia director and trump criticized the fbi and you had allies starting to insinuate that the fbi is corrupt. That muellers investigation is corrupt. Rather than rallying to bob muellers side. We have seen they are carrying the administration and the president s water and that is interesting because that is something that maybe people on the hill, people around washington for a long time that know bob mueller know how respected he has always been on both sides of the political aisle. Thank you, congrats on a big scoop, we thank you for being with us right now. A quick programming note, join my colleague Rachael Maddow for a look at the donald trump dossier. What we know to be true tonight on msnbc. And three law marks stepped down this week. But in alabama, an Accused Pedestrian file could be sent to the senate by this time next week. A look at the politics of misconduct after the break. Your brain is an amazing thing. But as you get older, it naturally begins to change, causing a lack of sharpness, or even trouble with recall. Thankfully, the breakthrough in prevagen helps your brain and actually improves memory. The secret is an ingredient originally d

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