When theres a joint statement from Chuck Schumer and nancy pelosi, thats not a joint statement. How long do you think youll have to wait for that . A long time. We have had obviously a very busy day. Nonstop breaking news. Its 11 00 a. M. Out west. 2 00 on the east. Were continuing to follow all of these new developments including the 13th device found in california. The Department Of Justice will hold a Press Conference where we hope to learn more details about this suspect. The man under arrest is from florida just to recap here. Hes identified as 56yearold Cesar Sayoc Junior. Dna did play a role in his arrest. Fbi seized this white van covered in pictures of President Trump and images of the president ial seal. Here is President Trump a short time ago from a previously scheduled white house event. I am pleased to inform you that Law Enforcement has apprehended the suspect and taken him into custody. These terrorizing acts are despicable and have no place in our country. Ive instructed authorities to spare no resource or expense in finding those responsible in bringing them to swift and certain justice. We must never allow Political Violence to take root in america. Cannot let it happen. Im committed to doing everything in my power as president to stop it. We learned in the past hour
about the package sent to Kamala Harris in california. This morning two more suspicious packages were stopped by authorities. One was discovered at a Sorting Facility in florida addressed to cory booker. Another in mid Town Manhattan be. That was address to james clapper. The total number of pipe bombs are 13. Authorities had zeroed in on florida as a possible origin for each of the packages. At this hour postal inspectors are sifting through literally millions of pieces of mail searches for the possible there could be other potential explosives. We have a lot of people here to break it all down for you. Jim kavanaugh, a former atf agent. Clint van zandt, tom winter and
ben kol licollins. Clint, if youre interview now, what are you asking . One of the things we have going for us is because theres explosive devices that Jim Kavanaugh and others were doing this interview, we dont have to advise him of his rights. Theres a Public Safety aspect where we can interview about anymore bombs in mail, who was working with you, where was your bomb making site. Theres a number of things we need to urgently do now that the law allows us to do. We do whats urgent. We get a search warrant. We search his van, house, internet communications, his telephone. Try to find out what other connections he has. Again, this is still a race because we have to believe if there are 13 devices out there, the two Columbine Shooters built
more than 100 pipe bombs. There could be some out in the mail, inside his house or van. That has to continue as urgent as possible until we get those answers. Then the wheels of justice will start to grinds as far as prosecuting this person. If this is still a Public Safety issue, and this has put so Many Americans on edge and im sure that if you live anywhere near one of the people whose face is sign on that fan or who you know has been criticized from the right, what do you say to those folks right now . The danger from this bomber is not completely over yet as clint has described. There could still be similar devices in the mail stream or other devices that he placed. We still dont know about accomplic accomplices. If youre a critic of the president which is all these
targets, Public People and politicians, just be careful. You should be careful going forward. It should be a lesson to you. Luckily we are glad this guy is better at leaving evidence than at making bombs. Hes left a giant trail for investigators to follow. Our investigators clearly are really good at this. The investigators are great. When you make a bomb, you get a,0a thousand federal agents plus detectives. This guy is not a sophisticated criminal and not a sophisticated bomb maker. He have going to get caught. Hes probably going to get convicted because theres so much evidence. Just to build on what clint said, remember the exception to the Miranda Warning for Public Safety only means that the argument in the court is whether or not that statement is
excluded. When you get a case like this with so much evidence, probably dna, likely fingerprints, all the bomb components at his home. The bomb factory, tape, tool marks, the van with the motive. Maybe he makes statement. Its not going to be that significant if a sentence or two of what he might say will be suppressed. This will be gobs and gobs of physical evidence. His commuputer. He searched the addresses of all these people. I bet you probably cannot give me the middle name of joe biden yesterday but its on the bomb label. The middle name of james clapper. Thats on the bomb label. This Guy Searching that to get these addresses. Thats all going to be on his google search. Think about the case. Prosecutors can make this case. Clint is exactly right about the wa warning. Theyre going to do that if they need to. The key is stopping somebody from getting hurt. If theres some argument thats later lost in the federal court, its only about a small statement that would not be admitted. I want to look ahead to this Press Conference. Theres a lot we need to know about what they are likelycharg that comes together. Both you guys have teams that are working on this nonstop and start with you, tom. What do we know about this guy thats relevant here. We know he has arrest records that go back to the early 90s, starting in florida. We have an eight page criminal history for him just in the state of florida. We have found an arrest of a charge that goes to minnesota. We know in 1994, he was arrested in middlesex county, new jersey. At that time he was living in New York City. He had an address on broadway. This is something who has a lengthy criminal history. Is it violent criminal history . The violent charges are thirddegree felonies or less. It doesnt indicate they are serious incidents. I think of interest though is in 2002 he was charged with making a bomb threat in the miami area. Thats something that well have to take a look at once we get the court paper work and something we have to go to the courthouse and get. Were in the process of doing that now. He was penalized for making this bomb threat. We would like to know what was the bomb threat specifically and something were looking to figure out. As far as his background from a criminal perspective, i would say it is significant. As far as any recent interactions with Law Enforcement from a violent nature, that doesnt appear to have been the case here. One of the things that is different now than we had before
is that we can learn an awful lot about people by looking at their social media. We have some video. This is from twitter. This is him from a donald trump rally. This is from 2016 rally. If we can play some of that video. Ben, talk to us about what social media. This was posted in 2018. Do we have it . Here it goes. Well take a look at this. This just in a loop that they have done. What else social media tell us . The facebook page, facebook version of the van. He was the sole followers of the only two accounts. One was called kill george
soros. The first person who got bomb. The second was kill all socialists. He followed a bunch of protrump facebook groups. He posted from trump rallies on his facebook page. It is a version of the van. Again, on the bomb, there was a right wing meme on the bomb itself. All of this comports to one larger picture that were seeing about this. One of the things we always end up asking in these questions is what about motive. I heard you talking about this earlier, jim. You said you would love to be the prosecutor in the case because motive is pretty much laid out on the van. Were hearing potentially motive is laid out on his social media pages. Youve always written criminal complaints on bombers. You know sort of what the process is thats going on right now and that may be presented to us in half an hour or so at this Press Conference. Help us in that context of whats happening right at this minute to bring this guy to justice, if indeed hes guilty. Theres fbi agents and postal inspectors in New York City. They are sitting around a desk with probably an assistant u. S. Attorney and writing out an affidavit for a criminal complaint. One of those agents will sign that affidavit. It will be pretty short. Might be a page or two. It will start out by saying im agent Jim Kavanaugh and ive been an argument for 30 years. I investigate bombs. As a result hell tell the evidence. We dont know what it is. It may be the fbi lab found hair in the bomb and was able to
raise dna. We were able to check that against sayoc. Im going to interrupt you for a second because we have new information. Tom im going to go to you on this. I understand now there is a 14th device that has been found, is that correct . Little bit of cautious on this one. My colleague has been working the phones for the past several minutes. Authorities are investigating a package addressed to tom steyer in california. Multiple Law Enforcements telling nbc. At this time its not immediately clear that the package is linked to the other 13. Were up to 13 sent to all the politicians and public figures we have been reporting on. At this point were up to 13. The reporting on that from andy who has just been pounding the phones out there in california. Hes based in our l. A. Bureau, the out ward appearance of it and the description matches the other packages. They are still waiting to do the final bit of forensics before we can call it 13. At this point all signs are pointing to it. This suspicious package thats sent to tom steyer is still being looked at. Right now were at 13, including the harris package. Were looking to see if were up to 14 with tom steyer. Thats the latest from my colleague. Jim kavanaugh, giving the overwhelming amount of evidence they have, all of these previous explosive devices, how quickly do you think they will determine whether this is from the same person . Really quickly once they look
at it. Once the agents look at it. If its the same, its very basic. Its the envelope the same and the device is the same once the bomb squad render safe procedure. They will call in to miami, jttf and say its the same thing. Well send it on a lab but it looks the same. Its a visual cursory inspection. The lab will follow up matching finger prints and evidence and tool marks and dna. Theyll be able to tell right away because all of these are the same. The most pressing thing is is there any danger. How do we narrow down the field of search of i dont know how much packages the u. S. Postal service goes through in a day. Youre talking about breathtaking numbers here. How are you approaching him . Whats your demeanor and whats some of the other things we might not think is obvious that youll try to get out of this guy early on . You might use what we call a clean team. You you may have two agents go in. They do the interview but theyre not part of the other investigation. If theres ever a question you interviewed him because of this public urgency and that contaminated the rest of the investigation, youre able to separate those two to begin with. Jim talked about how that affidavit would be put together. We dont have to charge him with everything hes done. We dont even know everything hes gone with now. We could charge him with something simple of making or
possession of a bomb or bomb making materials just to use that to hold. Then well come back with the sup superceding indictment. We want to keep this guy in custody but we dont have to lay out our whole case because right now we dont know the whole case. This is someone you would like to develop some report with. We would want to talk with this guy. You want to show some empathy to his cause. Weve got this tremendous public urgency now. We want to build this case on him. Until that time comes up, hes going to be my new best friend until he asked for that
attorney. Malcolm nance is with us as well. Tell us what youre hoping to hear. Im hoping the Attorney General gives us a broad out line of this plot. Most importantly theres two factors that the others have been bringing up. We dont know the breadth of this. I hope tths one individual. I pray to god this is only one individual who did this. Ths one. I pray to god this is only one
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the bloodstream of the post office. The mail stream. Some of the more high profile people that this individual would take an interest in havent received devices yet. Based on just that juxtaposition of what he had on his carv verss who woas on his target list, ths makes since that tom steyer would be on there. The number of devices, just think about this. Only this morning we were outside a postal facility looking at the pictures of all the police cars on 52nd street in midTown Manhattan. Now here we are, literally in just a matter of hours, i think the New York City store broke around 9 00. Here we are at 2 00 and were doing aerial shots overhead of a place where theres another suspicious package. Right. It gives you a picture of the bombers mind. Look at all the effort and time he put into making all of these devices. Mr. De niro was one of the victims. One of his great lines is it doesnt take much strength to pull the trigger but its hard to go to work every day. You know this is a bomber thats spent a whole lot of time making these devices. It didnt take much strength either to mike all these bombs. He probably should have been going to work every day instead of doing this. Now hes caught. Malcolm makes great point. Im like malcolm now. There could be a few more of these. Pictures on his van of michael moore. People like that need to be real cautious. Its almost whats next. This has taken over the news for a week. Theres a will the of bombers i
didnt catch and clint and his team didnt catch. I saw the bombs mthey made and its really scary. Its not this level of stuff. Theres people that have capabilities and can be really awful. We really ought to Pay Attention to this stuff. Bombs can be left, placed. They dont have to be mailed. They can be left on your front stoop. We could see something else. Thats something we ought to think about. Were watching slowly what is happening and we have this aerial shot that is over california. The latest one whose name was on a package that was suspicious. This one in burlingame, california. Were learning theres a tweet from Andrew Gillum. He is the democrat who is running for governor in florida. His name is something that has come up repeatedly on the social media. Of course. Our top priority is ensuring our campaign, volunteers and Public Events are safe and we have taken Strong Security precautions. We have no evidence our offices have been targeted. We are in close contact with authorities as this situation develops. It does show you the amount of understandable nervousness if you have ever been if you found out youve been mentioned by him on social media. If theres a picture of you or any reference of you on his van or if youre someone who has been a frequent target of the
right, understandably, you might be nervous and thats what Andrew Gillum is responding to. This is the idea that he would be new to violence is not doesnt appear to be the case. The fact he ac