I dont think any parent in america or every School Teacher saw that childish behavior going on. Even though i wasnt expecting anything, i saw it as such an unpresident ial event and disrespect, and its not even talking about politics, just leaving politics aside, that was extremely disrespectful. I feel ashamed to be an american after seeing this. Running against trump is a different kind of art than a different debate. It becomes less about facts and about personality and domination and the ability to come back and to survive the abuse. What would you like to see in the next president ial debate . A mute button. And in frank luntzs post debate focus group, we heard even more of the same. That was one of the most i have watched president ial debates for forty years and thats one of the most frustrating things i have ever experienced. We were getting it i kept notes, and there might have been two or three answers to questions the whole 90 minutes. When asked if the debate turned off potential voters, even joe biden said he understood how it might. What do you have to say to those undecided persuadable voters who were watching last night and who were just completely turned off by politics . I can understand it. The president of the United States conducted himself the way he did, i think it was just a national embarrassment. And now, aware of the obvious, the president ial commission on debates says this afternoon, quote, last nights debate made clear that additional structure should be added to the format of the remaining debates to insure a more orderly discussion of the issues. The cpd will be carefully considering the changes that it will adopt and will announce those measures shortly. There is a lot of reaction to the debate and the voters are the ones who matter so lets hear from the voters. We have reporters across the country getting reaction to the debate and what it means for november. From ohio, msnbc Senior International correspondent chris jansing, from michigan, nbc News Reporter dasha burns. From florida, correspondent ellison barber. From minnesota, political reporter shaquille brewster, and from arizona, nbc news political reporter vaughn hillyard. Youre in all states that can make or break this election. Its as if our assignment desk knew what they were doing when they sent you out to talk to voters. Chris, i want to start with you. We heard from a voter you spoke with that they wish they had a mute button for this debate. The question i have, did this debate change anyones mind about who they might be voting for . Key question, right . It moved them a little bit, and i think they were even surprised by it, to joe biden. Look at the local you showed a bunch of headlines. The headline in the local paper is debate devolves, and more interesting, the county republicans had a watch party. Even the head of the county Republican Party called what happened chaotic. Look, this was not what anybody wanted to see. Have some pictures of our panel watching the debate. You know, head in hand. They used words to describe it like painful, unpresident ial, disrespectful. Let me play a little bit of our conversation after the debate, katy. Its frustration. Its disappointing that those are the two choices in the top two parties. If you were to ask me who won the debate, i dont really think either one won. They danced around, called ee e other names, were disrespectful. I dont know if anybody roly won but a came away with a little more respect for joe biden. First, what i think is key here, a couple months ago, we would have been looking at can donald trump in places like ohio and pennsylvania hold on to those democratic and independent voters who crossed over, sort of the working class white men. Now youre looking at people who almost seem to be looking for a reason to stay with him, because they have concerns about joe biden being too liberal, about Kamala Harris being too liberal, and last night, they just didnt find it. What they did find, they were concerned about joe bidens age, concerned about how he would present himself. They felt like he did better maybe than they expected, but what was frustrating overall is they just didnt get answers to their questions. They dont feel like they learned anything, and if you ask them, katy, will they watch the next debate, they wouldnt say for sure that they would. The vp debate, yes. The next president ial debate, they want changes like, as you saw, that mute button, katy. A mute button or somebody suggested earlier on our air, just take the debates away and have this be interviews with the Major Networks, individual interviews with Major Networks where you can cover all these topics oneonone and actually get information out of the candidates. Well see if that would ever happen. Dasha burns. You are in michigan. Imagine that. Yeah. Youre talking to moderate voters. Last night, donald trump, and he has been doing this for a while, tried to paint joe biden as a socialist who is aligned with the more left segment of the democratic party. When you talk to voters, what was their takeaway . Yeah, katy. They were not exactly buying it. As you know, we have been covering kent county significantly. We have been coming back here quite a bit this past year. And the key demographic were focused on here are moderate Republican Voters. Donald trump won this county by a very narrow margin in 2016, and those Republican Voters could actually be pretty key to turning this county blue in 2020. So i spoke to three Republican Voters. I want to introduce you to them now. One is katie moore, a mom of two. She voted for donald trump in 2016. Then we have mitch, who is a military veteran, a former army ranger who has voted republican his entire life. Except for in 2016 when he went third party, and jerry, who i met at a Farmers Market during the impeachment inquiry which he called a witch hunt at the time. He was a big trump supporter last year but has since backed away a little bit and is undecided. Take a listen to what they had to say about last nights event. Which party do you feel like is doing a better job reaching out to moderates like you . I definitely would say the Biden Campaign is. I thought he really spoke to the American People last night. He looked directly into the camera. Im a staunch Second Amendment supporter, im prolife, but i also believe that the danger of another four years of the Trump Presidency far outweigh those. It looks like two kindergartners fighting in the sandbox. It was hard to comprehend, hard to understand. Wasnt really sure what was going on. And katy, we just got hit with some major michigan weather here, but jerry, that decided voter, i asked if last night moved him in any way. He said did not clarify a single thing for him. Katy. Im still so surprised that people are undecided this late in the game. As if the last four years didnt give you reason either way youre going for who to vote for. And i guess were hearing the same from some of the voters youre talking to in florida, ellison barber. Tell us what youre hearing. Yeah, katy. It was not easy for us to find an undecided voter in the miamidade area. I have been here for weeks. I regularly stop strangers on the sidewalk and ask to get their opinion on politics. It took us a long time to come across anyone who was undecided. We found one, matteo gomez. He was born in colombia and grew up in the miami area. He became a u. S. Citizen two years ago so this is his first president ial election. We have been speaking to him off camera, and hes felt torn. He has taken his time making his decision. He likes President Trumps tax policies but disagrees with him as it relates to immigration and health care. We asked if we could watch a bit of the debate with him remotely. He said he felt like last nights debate moved him a little bit in the direction of one candidate, but overall, he said he just felt disappointed. Listen here. Was this debate at all helpful to you as an undecided voter in terms of making up your mind . Not at all. It was a crazy show that it kind of leaned me to one direction maybe. If you had to pull the trigger and vote for someone tomorrow, how would you vote . Probably biden. So mmateo told me he wanted o watch one more full debate between biden and trump but he expects to make his decision after the vp debate. He said that debate matters a lot to him because of both biden and trumps age. Katy. Very interesting. Shaquille brewster, you are in minnesota. One of the moments thats been talked about a lot from the debate is the president ials refusal to condemn White Supremacy and the proud boys. Its part of a pattern we have seen him fail to do for the past four or five years when hes been asked these questions. Were going to get to more of that later in the hour, but you talked to some voters who found that to be striking. What did you hear . Thats exactly right. The reason we came to minnesota is not just because President Trump will be here later today and this is a state he is trying to turn into a battleground state, but when you drive around minneapolis, you still see those tributes for george floyd. You still see the destruction from the protests and riots after his death, and this summer, the city experienced an uptick in violence. So when one of the debate topics was supposed to be race and violence in our cities, people here tell me they were welcoming that conversation, but they simply didnt get that. What stuck out to them based on the watch party i attended last night that was outdoors and socially distant and conversations i had this morning is that moment when President Trump refused to condemn White Supremacy. Listen to the impact it had on people who live here in minneapolis. That moment, i got deeply emotional, tears were forming. To hear a socalled leader in our country make that kind of statement is, quite frankly, is devastating. It was sad but expected. You expected the president not to condemn White Supremacists . Absolutely. Thats a pretty remarkable statement. This is the same guy who pretended he didnt know who david duke was only four or five years ago. A poll released yesterday showed that 54 of voters in minnesota feel that the criminal Justice System treats blacks and whites differently. They wanted to hear more the president address that sentiments a little more last night. Katy. Shaq, thank you. Finally, lets go to vaughn hillyard. Another topic in the debate, vaughn, was the coronavirus. We heard the president again question the effectiveness of masks. Arizona has been hit hard by the virus. What have you heard today . Yeah, this is a president that has held several maskless events here in arizona. More than 5600 people have died. For arizona voters over the last seven months, the impacts of covid have been unavoidable, and has propelled people like justin, who owned three restaurants here in town, but since covid struck arizona seven months ago, had to shut down two of them. This propels him to take part in this upcoming election. Listen to him a few minutes ago. Dont want to say i would blame them for the virus being here, but for every day saying its nothing, its going to go away, of course, every day that you dont do something reflects the next six month, i believe. I mean, and i think that the callousness of the first few months of the reaction to the covid is were all seeing it now. Again, justin didnt vote in 2016, katy, and he said not only is he going to vote for joe biden but also for mark kelly because hes not going to vote for any republican who associates themselves with donald trump. It echoes a phone conversation i had last night with susan in phoenixs east valley. Shes a 37year nurse here in arizona. She reregistered as a democrat from a republican just six months ago. She told me, quote, silence is approval. I have lost respect for this party. The men and women who sit there and say nothing, that means they stand for it. I jumped ship. I even gave joe some money, not much, but some. Thats a lifelong republican who changed her Voter Registration to democrat, and right now here in maricopa county, the concern for the Republican Party is theyre bleeding supporters like susan. The question is, how many of them, and could it turn this state blue just five weeks from now . It is very hard to win arizona without winning maricopa county. It is very hard to win a senate seat in arizona without winning maricopa county. It could spell disaster for one of the candidates there, martha mcsally. Vaughn hillyard, thank you so much. Dasha burns, thank you. I know you had to go because it is pouring there in michigan. Chris jansing, thank you. Ellison barber and shaquille brewster, we appreciate it. Everybody, thank you very much. And coming up, were going to get into the president not condemning racism sorry, not condemning white sprem saes, also defending his response to the pandemic in last nights debate on ask from masks to a vaccine. Well short out the facts from fiction. 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Hes harming our basic values, giving rise to hate, and hes selling out america to big corporations. Im working to protect immigrants, women, communities of color, and lgbtq people. And im making corporations like pg e and Insurance Companies play by our rules. We need experienced leadership to wipe away trumps stain on america for good. The president spoke a lot last night, interrupting, interjecting and badgering both joe biden and chris wallace, but its what he did not say that is garnering the most criticism. When asked if he would accept the election results, he declined to do so. When asked if he would urge his supporters to remain calm while counting ballots, he declined to do so. When asked what is considered in our business a softball question to condemn White Supremacy, President Trump said this. Are you willing tonight to condemn White Supremacists and Militia Groups and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence at a number of these cities as we saw in kenosha and as we have seen in portland . Sure, im willing to do that, but go ahead, sir. I would say almost everything i see is from the left wing, not the right wing. What are you saying . Im willing to do anything. I want to see peace. Then do it, sir. Say it. Do it. You want to call them what do you want to call them . White supremacists. Proud boys. Proud boys. Stand back and stand by. Stand back and stand by. The proud boys is a violent farright organization that believes white men and western ca culture are under attack. Part of the initiation to get into proud boys is to get into a physici physical fight for the cause. Again, the president told them to stand back and stand by. As you can see, the proud boys have celebrated that. They made his words part of their logo and theyre now calling the president their new leader. During a stop on his train tour this morning, former Vice President biden delivered his own message to the proud boys. Cease and desist. Cease and desist. The American People will decide who the next president of the United States will be. Period. So im urging the American People, go out and vote. Show up. You can vote early, vote early. Vote whatever way is most convenient for you. But vote. And if you show up in large enough numbers, nothing, nothing is going to change. I promise you, if in fact we win this election, this president will step down. A lot of bravado. He has no alternative. The American People will not stand for it. No agency would stand for that