Following the latest developments in this race. And we have a lot of guests as well, the congressman Debbie Dingell of michigan, and Democratic Congressional candidate, and former texas state senator, wendy davis, and Bishop Michael curry of the Episcopal Church ahead. A busy hour ahead. We want to start at the white house. Josh, the president focusing on one state today, after crisscrossing the western battleground states yesterday. A big agenda today. But a lot of people are talking about that 21minute speech that he made in minnesota, saying he seemed as if he didnt, he was very low energy there. Low energy performance, and the president s rallies have been getting longer and longer over the last several weeks, as we get closer to the election, but as you point out, last night, President Trump actually gave the shortest rally that hes given of this entire election. And the reason he seemed so frustrated, to be there, and about the situation, it stems from this tiff that the president has been in with the governor, a democrat, in the state, as minnesota has really been facing a real crisis, with covid cases, climbing, they had been setting new records, every day, and so the state sought to hold President Trump to the 250 person limit. And as a result, what the president did, the very first thing he did after he landed, he didnt go right to that rally, as he normally would, he instead went to the overflow crowd, all of those folks who couldnt be among the 250 people, that instead gathered outside. He went to greet them first, and then went, and when he did speak for just 21 minutes. This is what he had to say. As you know, there are at least 25,000 people who wanted to be here tonight. We just saw a lot of them. We wanted to pay our respects. They were here for a long time. They waited and waited and then the governor, bad things, your far left democrat attorney general Keith Ellison and your democratic governor tried to shut down our rally, silence the people of minnesota, and take away your freedom, and your rights. So a big focus there from President Trump on freedom, on individual liberties, as he makes this closing case, to voters in the final days of the election, really President Trump has one goal at this point, there is not a whole lot of persuadable voters there left. The goal here, drive turnout as high as he possibly can among his base and four different stops today in pennsylvania before he continues with the jam packed schedule in a few days focusing on the sun belt tomorrow, with stops in north carolina, georgia, florida, and then finishing it out on monday, with five stops, focusing on the upper midwest. Including stops in michigan, and wisconsin. Kendis . As he hits all of the different spots he is heading to, it is frankly quite dizzies. Josh at the white house for us this Early Morning. Thank you. Today, joe biden is making a final swing through the midwest, including two stops in michigan campaigning alongside former president barack obama. Geoff bennet is on the ground in detroit. Good morning. Reporter good morning. In a preview provided by the Biden Campaign, the Campaign Says that both joe biden and barack obama will speak about the crises facing the country and joe bidens plans to address it. And they have two drivein rally events scheduled in the battleground state of michigan, and one in flint, and another here in detroit, and when they come to detroit, they will be joined by native michigander and motown legend stevie wonder. And the fact that joe biden is campaigning with barack obama, in a state where polling averages show him up by five or six points, it shows how the Biden Campaign is really taking nothing for chance. Joe biden, barack obama, barack obama in particular, is still hugely popular with the democratic base. With black voters, hispanic voters, and young voters, all of whom were central to building that socalled obama coalition, who helped deliver the white house to barack obama, back in 2008, and 2012, but those same groups lagged in turnout, in parts of the midwest, back in 2016, and that helps contribute to Donald Trumps surprise 2016 win. So this stop here in michigan is part of really a midwestern battleground swing. Joe biden was in iowa, and wisconsin, yesterday, and take a listen to what he had to tell supporters. Hes not going to able to stop this. Not at all. As i said, over 85 Million People have already voted. Theyve had enough. People are coming out in droves. Waiting three, four, five, six hours in other states. Just to vote. And central to the Biden Campaigns Closing Argument is the president s handling of the coronavirus crisis. Joe biden yesterday pushing back against the president s assertion that joe biden wants to shut down the country, biden telling his supporters, he doesnt want to shut down the country, he wants to shut down the virus. So in these last remaining days before the election, the Biden Campaign is crisscrossing the country really showing that they have multiple paths to the presidency, according to the polling, and taking no vote for granted. Geoff bennet in detroit, thank you. Lets talk a little bit more about what is expected in michigan today. The democratic congresswoman Debbie Dingell is joining us right now. Congresswoman, thank you for being here this Early Morning on a saturday. And i do want to show your attention, point your attention to a little preview of perhaps what youre going to get today, when former president Barack Obama Joins joe biden on the campaign trail. Take a look. Hes turned the white house into a hot zone. Whats his Closing Argument . That people are too focused on covid. He said this at one of his rallies. Covid, covid, covid, hes complaining. Hes jealous of covids media coverage. If he had been focused on covid from the beginning, cases wouldnt be reaching new record highs across the country this week. Former president obama there, serious topic, and he does seem as if he is having a lot of fun doing so and you get a sense that he is more there to try to get trump or get biden elected. I think its both. I think hes very worried about whats happening to the country, and i think hes joined joe biden, today, it is very important in michigan. I am one of those people that thinks that he is going to be competitive until election day, with the base vote, in both detroit and flint, and it is about 50 of turnout, and he may be able to increase those numbers and those two men together can excite a lot of people, and i think its good for michigan that hes coming today. Theyre both coming today. And we know that the national, the National Average of the polls has biden up by five to six points on your state and the latest New York TimesSiena College poll has biden up by eight points. In michigan. The New York Times writes that President Trump is struggling to maintain support among white voters in your state. So congresswoman, after the 2016 election, you wrote an oped in the washington post, saying i said clinton was in trouble with the voters i represent, democrats didnt listen. Is 2020 different . I think 2020 is different. I do believe that joe biden has the momentum in michigan right now, and i dont believe these polls, and ive been i did, i simply dont. I think its very hard to poll a lot of different things, including the fact that there are a lot of people that dont want to say theyre voting for donald trump. But i do think that women are come can out in record numbers. I talked to three women in their 70s, celebrating their 74th birthday for one of them last saturday and had never been involved in politics ever and theyre going to go door to door. And i also, in parts of my history, which are more blue collar, there are workers, that donald trump is making a hard push for them. So it is a complicated demographic, and you cant take this broad brush and say how everybody is going to vote. I think the momentum is with joe biden. I think donald trump can take five times by the end of the day monday night repeating what he did four years ago and we cannot stop working every single second until the polls close tuesday night. They are making a good effort. The Michigan Court of appeals upheld a ruling to block a blan on openly block a ban at openly carrying firearms at the polling places on election day. Thats what you need. This comes on the heals of the incident that took place with the michigan governor alleged plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer there. Are you concerned at all about what will happen on election day and beyond in your state . So i think its complicated. Ive been working here, with my local officials, all of my law enforcement, we put out information, and our police chief did talk about it, im trying to lower the temperature of everybody. Last weekend, would he had a whole bunch of we had a whole bunch of President Trump supporters who came in and disrupted the meeting and i stayed and talked to them for 20 minutes, to the end of it. And we need to be ready, but not expect trouble. Its going to be safe for everybody to vote. There are plans all over the state. The attorney general and i went out and made fools of ourselves on thursday, trying to work together. And trying to be safe. You know, we dont want to stir up trouble. People are working together, everybody is working together, but theyre going to be safe and some people are trying to intimidate people on election day and we cannot let that happen. I wouldnt even try to do the cha cha slide after seeing that video. Please tell me there is a video of you doing some dancing. There is a video. Its bad. Its very bad. But we appreciate the effort. It is entertainment. We appreciate the effort. People not to be, they ned to have fun, they are doing their civic duty and cant be afraid and thats what theyre trying to do is psyche you out, i had a person last saturday, there was a person in a biden mask and a bullet hole and blood, and not to be intimidated and there may be strong words but at the end, i said what joe biden said, i represent all of you and if you have a problem, im there for you so. We got to all lower the temperature. Every one of us has the responsibility right now. To lower the temperature in this country. Absolutely. We appreciate it, congressman, michigan congresswoman Debbie Dingell and also feature dancing with the star contestant. Never. Never. Slowing down. 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The president had been feuding with minnesota public officials, the governor, the attorney general, all day long, complaining he was being forced to follow Public Health guidelines that would limit the event itself to 250 people. And perhaps not having that usual big crowd here, drained the president of some of his usual energy. He was flat. He blew through his applause lines. He spent a lot of time going after the attorney general and the governor and not much time staying focus on the idea of flipping minnesota into the red column. Its a state that came 45,000 votes of winning four years ago and one that his campaign has coveted for offensive purposes and what we believe is the last minnesota rally in the bag, and joe biden yesterday here as well, we will see where this one lands. The president with a whirlwind schedule coming up the rest of this week, now gone for minnesota. Kendis, lindsey. And Something Interesting about that. Because so a 21minute speech, versus the normal 90 minute speech, that tells us how long the speeches are on paper versus applause lines and adlibbing off the crowd. Interesting there. Yes. Garrett, thank you. Theres also a concern about what will happen after election day. The president still refuses to say whether he will accept the results of the election if he loses. Nbc news reports, trumps sowing doubt among his followers, appearing to be working, writing some trump supporters, echoed incorrect or evidencefree claims such as ballots are going out that omit trumps name. Thats not true. Or being sold. No evidence for this claim. Or being dumped in a river. Not accurate. And joining us right now, susan, republican strategist and Senior Adviser for the lincoln project, and wendy, who is a democratic strategist, and professor of the education at Johns Hopkins university. So ive laid out some facts here, and the president is still kind of sowing some doubt. Listen to what he had to say in arizona. Today, the fake washington post, abc, and you think that theyd come out hes four down, five down, 17 down in wisconsin. I dont know. Now i had the same fraudsters here, four years ago, they had me 12 down a week before the election. The biggest problem we have is if they cheat with the ballots. Thats my biggest problem. Thats the only thing, thats the only thing i worry about, if they cheat with the ballots. If they cheat with the ballots, and you know, they did find some in a garbage can, from the military. Again, a lot of that hasnt been verified whatsoever. And there is some reporting this morning that the president might continue doing rallies well after the election. And is he in essence laying the ground work there to challenge the results of the election, wendy . Absolutely. I think he is trying to sow doubt and delegitimize any of the results that come out on election knit, if and when he is not declared victorious. And i think this is problematic. This is going to continue to deepen the divide in our nation. That is already fragile. Rit now we need someone who is going to bring us together, and say regardless of what the outcome will be, we have to have some sort of accountability and believe that the american democracy stands still. Unfortunately, donald trump and his rallies, continues to use this divisive rhetoric to sow doubt and make claims that are unwarranted, and it is deeply disturbing. You know, that article that susan was talking about, it quotes one trump supporter who says, if the president loses, i think it will be complete fraud. Voter fraud. Theres so much voter fraud happening. She says she doesnt believe he could legitimately get fewer votes than the opponent. And look at the crowds. Joe biden barely gets any. What do you make of this . Go ahead. Its really hard to respond to that. And i would just like to say happy saturday, before election day, its our final saturday, which is nice, so yes, but you know, i think the first thing that came to mind when you were reading that is wow, donald trump cheats on his wife, donald trump cheats on his taxes, so who would be likely to try and cheat this election . Hmm. Donald trump. So lets put the cheater in the cheating category there. On top of that, its just, it just goes to show seriously how little this man has grown into the presidency. This is the president of the united states. He is trying to undermine our Democratic Free and pair e, free and fair elections. Thats disgraceful and thats what the American Public is turning on. When we see why donald trump is losing seniors is, losing suburban women, these are all results of his behavior. And these rallies, and these nonsensical things he says, the lies he says, so people are on to him, they know he is what he is, and that thats not good enough to be president of the united states. Go ahead, wendy. I thought you wanted to weigh in there. I wanted to get your take on this. Both of you for this matter. This nation obviously is more divided than i have seen it since being here, could this election, could you get a sense at all, there is anything from this election that could even throw more fuel to it or be more unifying . Well, thats a good question. I think it has to start from the top. I think that donald trump always has this language, when he says america first, for all, he meant that has shown us that it is all about trump first. He puts himself first. We look at the pandemic. We look at the fact that there are millions of americans, you know, w