Plan their next big moves together. Up, up and away, im talking stock market soaring, cracking 20,000 historic movement. How high is it going to go . Well begin today with the growing divide between the United States and mexico over President Trumps plans to form a border wall. He says construction could begin in just a matter of months and its going to be mexico whos going to pay for it no matter what their president says. Plus, just a few minutes from now, two Top Republicans will speak to reporters and try to explain how they are going to keep their party and president on the same page. Ive got a great team of reporters with me today, and superstar panel. First to Kristen Welker. The president of mexico is supposed to come to the United States next week to meet with trump. How does that happen after this . Reporter this is so striking, this is escalating right now as we speak. President trump just tweeting about mexico moments ago, and his tweets just to set up the back drop come after the president of mexico expressed his disappointment in trumps executive action at building the wall. Essentially put it on the table that he might not come now for this meeting. Heres what trump just tweeted, the u. S. Has a 60 billion trade deficit with mexico. It has been a one sided deal with massive numbers. And his second tweet says, of jobs and companies lost, if mexico is unwilling to pay for the badly needed wall, then it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting. Really laying down the gauntlet there, stef. He was asked about the fact that mexico has been insistent its not going to pay for the border wall during an interview with abc. Take a listen to what President Trump had to say. Theyll pay us back . Absolutely, 100 . The american taxpayer will pay for the wall at first . All it is, well be reimbursed at the later date from whatever transaction we make from mexico. That wall will cost us nothing. So not a whole lot of specifics about how that rei am brsment is going to work, stef, and if you look at the estimates it puts it anywhere from 8 to more than 20 billion. I spoke with a source familiar with the Administration Last night who said, look, they want to do this with preexisting funds from congress. They dont know if thats going to be possible. So they may ultimately have to ask for more funds. Thats going to require congressional approval and that could be a big battle ahead. But again, this was a big Campaign Promise that mexico was going to pay for the wall. The president now saying that u. S. Taxpayers are going to foot that bill on front end. Mexico is going to reimburse u. S. Taxpayers but still not giving details how specifically thats going to happen. When you Talk Congress at approval, i think of the gop and jam bore rea taking place in philadelphia today. President trump set to meet with them. Whats going to go on . Its not like this group and the president have been on the same page for long . Its an important point. I think the president sees this as a bridge building trip to some extent, one gop lawmaker saying this relationship is a work in congress. They are going to get into thorny topics, including his claims of voter fraud. This is something that a lot of republicans want him to drop and were being told he do in fact launch an investigation as early as today. He wants to explain why he thinks theres evidence of voter fraud. He may be pressed on these recent comments that hes made about torture, that he would be open to water boarding again. He also caveated that. A lot of hot topics on the table when he heads to philadelphia. Stay close and well bring you back in a second. I want to bring in raul reyes. Good morning to you both. We have pro testers in the street and president of mexico says im not coming but why is anyone surprised . This was a clear Campaign Promise from President Trump. Why are we surprised this is happening . We shouldnt be surprised and we have to look at the other side of the equation. In his address, mexico offers an demands respect. Hes under enormous pressure. When donald trump went there in the fall, that was like it was good for donald trump and it was a Public Relations disaster for the mexican president. His approval then was 22 , which was a historic low, now its 12 . Which i believe he is under enormous pressure in mexico to either cancel the trip from the public or work out some type of statement in advance of meeting that theres no way mexico is going to quote unquote reimburse e u. S. The numbers are just not the. Even when donald trump talks about taking somehow taking the remittances that mexicans sent back from the u. S. , thats 142 million. The wall cost billions. Anyone who is a developing or math person or business person so rauls point, the president is under a huge amount of pressure from the mexican people but donald trump puts out a tweet a minute ago, if mexico is unwilling to pay for the badly needed wall then it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting. You aint going to pay, no worries, no need to show up for the white house. I think these tweets and a lot of the behavior that President Trump has been exhibiting since friday, just reflect he doesnt understand the value of diplomacy. They are working. At the end of the day in order to combat Drug Trafficking from mexico, the only way to do is joint with the mexican government. If hes going to undermine and disrespect him, they are going to tell him in the future, were not going to extradite that guy or imprison him either or cooperate to give you intelligence to the dea, all things we do now. Heres an example of how con flicked mexico is. After trump went down for the campaign, the finance minister who had arranged the trip, he was fired. But post trumps election, he has brought him back and made him minister of Foreign Affairs because they feel now we have to deal with President Trump. They are conflicted what they are pragmatically are going to have to deal with. I want to bring Kristen Welker back in the conversation. As part of the conversation President Trump had with abc, there was a lot of talk about this voter fraud issue again. Kristen, i want to share with you a little bit of what the president had to say. Hes not letting this go. If you look at voter registration, you look at the dead people who are registered to vote and people registered in two states, you look at all of these Different Things that are happening with registration, take a look at the registration, youre going to find and we going to do an investigation on it. 3 to 5 million illegal votes. Well find out but it could very well be that much. This is extraordinary that this is what is completely in focus for President Trump and not launching an investigation into the russian interference into the election. Ill leave that to the side. Talk to us more about this. Theres controversy around this being registered in two states specifically around Donald Trumps daughter tiffany being registered in two states. Kellyanne conway told matt lauer, absolutely not, shes not registered in two states. Thats right. Shee disputed the reporting that Tiffany Trump is registered in two states. Said its not the case. I talked last night with tiffany and she said it is flatly false. Shes registered in two states and i recall talking with tiffany all through the fall and making sure she can reregister in york to vote for her father and registered in pennsylvania and went through the pro serks said it was very bisen teen and took a long time. What about Steven Bennett . I havent discussed that with him, i can guarantee he didnt vote in two states. Doesnt it prove the point even people trying to follow the law, they havent been purged from the roles where they clear it proves the point you can be registered in two states and not vote illegally in two states and sway an election. We double checked our reporting. A Philadelphia County board of Elections Official confirmed to nbc news that Tiffany Trump is still registered there in the state of pennsylvania where she went to college. Her voter status is also listed as active according to a state elections website. Public records in new york where she now lives show she is also registered in that state. So again, registered in two states, President Trump wants to say this proves his point that folks can be registered in multiple states but bottom line doesnt necessarily mean they voted twice. What . This these situations happen. I mean i think most people if you think back to College Years maybe as im watching, maybe im registered in two states. Its a distraction because maybe this happened with Tiffany Trump and steve bennett, whoever, thats not the type of voter fraud that the gop typically says they are going after. They say that undocumented people, illegal voting, that thats whats happening. And i can say look, it is a fact most of the undocumented population in the United States is latino. That is a fact. I think what is shoulbe very troubling for the gop leaders especially with President Trump having historic low Approval Ratings for a new president , especially in florida and southwest whether he keeps making these claims about illegal voters and illegals voting, that to a lot of people suggests latinos and maybe undocumented people. Thats worry some. No evidence of that its again hammering home this hostility he seems to have to the countrys largest minority group. Why . Lets say that President Trump is right. If there were illegals that were voting, wouldnt Hillary Clinton and company have sent them to the state of florida so she could have won . You know, he said this President Trump mentioned this last night on the interview and said, i want to do this investigation and by the way, those illegal votes would have gone to Hillary Clinton anyway as though he was doing something for the better of our nation and for her. It just screams a waste of resources to go act and you know, when i saw yesterday morning that he want d to call for an investigation into voter fraud, if this is a president acting based on completely unsubstantiated claims and everyone is telling him its not true, what else is he going to act on based on a belief he has on his own. A gut feeling. This is like anxiety we feel about going to visit our parents for thanksgiving, okay, theres four topics were not going to cover because were going to end up in a crazy location. Well take a break. Before we do, i dont want to forget every day to remind our president because i hope hes watching. I am interested in seeing your taxes, its not that i believe theres a smoking gun in there, its just about transparency. Kellyanne conway says its been litigated no one cares. I do vote in at least one state and i do care. Fair game, President Trump publicly ro moating torture. Who i feel strongly about waterboarding, as far as im concerned we have to fight fire with fire. What happens when his National Security team disagrees . Plus the entire gop congress gathering right now at a retreat. Its in philadelphia. Dont go thinking they are at camp or anything. The president is joining them soon. Well hear from the leadership live in this hour. We need to share something that matters, i think to everyone, it certainly does to me, yesterday we lost an icon, mary tyler moore, her Ground Breaking show, changed the television landscape. 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Its against National Domestic law. Its against international law. It puts our military at risk. I say that as a guy whos son and daughter or both in the armed forces. This is a really shaky position. I think President Trump started to walk back. Secretary jim mattis will never officially tolerate this and i doubt the cia will either. As a fourstar general, the fact that to my first question, when i said do you believe the president , the president of the United States and you had to answer, im not sure, how does that make you feel . Well, i think to be honest its a disgraceful situation. The u. S. Has a set of National Values that we try to live up to, not always but they are as spirational in nature. Publicly epousing torture, erodes our standing in the world. Its part of our power. We aspire to be a people who live up to the law. Again, im real actually appalled. This happened before during the bush administration, bush 43 administration with secretary cheney. We had a bunch of washington lawyers all agreed that enhanced interrogation, we were torturing people. I think we killed people under our control both iraq and afghanistan both the agency and the u. S. Armed forces. So we close that door thank god. We got an army manual that says how we deal with detainees under your control. Thats what we got to live up to. I want to share with you a bit more of the interview with donald trump was in just yesterday where he specifically spoke about water boarding. Take a look. I will rely on pompeo and mattis and my group and if they dont want to do, thats fine. If they doant to do, i will work towards that end. I want to do everything within the bounds of what youre allowed to do legally but i do feel it works . Absolutely i feel it works. Okay, so if President Trump believes that it works, talk to me about military chain of command. What do general mattis and mike pompeo do if the president says gentleman, i believe it works, have at it . Im reasonably sure that thats not going to happen. I think secretary mattis would say mr. President , its against the law. I cant comply with illegal orders. I think any cia agent or military intelligence or nco would say to himself, im simply not going to do it. Ill get prosecuted sooner or later. But i think the big problem is the harm the president s statement is doing to our international standing. Again, weve got 2. 2 Million People in the armed forces. Cia is some of those courageous High Integrity people in the country and we simply cant go there and if they do go there, they will end up getting prosecuted. To the generals points, the United States has an obligation to live up to stand ards that we have set in terms of code of conduct, but the president has already said that terrorists are chopping off christians heads around the world. They are using barbaric tactics we have to get to their level. Doesnt that exactly directly conflict with what the general is telling us . Absolutely. First we have the question of it being illegal both in the United States, its against our eighth amendment and international law, we signed and ratified the convention against torture. And it just it makes us look bad. We are the United States, leader of the free world. We sat an example. Countries will turn their back on us and not going to work with us and be credible in their eyes. At the end of the day it ends up undermining our counterterrorism efforts not aiding them. Youre talking about sophisticated Foreign Policy and all of these moving parts but potentially if a donald trump supporter were sitting nex