Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Stephanie Ruhle 20201

We have the best medical his social distancing. Equipment. But there are a lot of people we have the best medicines. Who looked at that video last all developed recently. I stood out front. Night and thought, this is the president signaling bad behavior i led. To americans as were still in nobody thats a leader would not the midst of a pandemic thats do what i did. And i know theres a risk. Theres a danger, but thats killing american after american. Okay. Robert, we still dont have and now im better and maybe im answers to critically important questions like when the immune. I dont know. President last tested negative. But dont let it dominate your lives. Of course, we can and should politically, why is this so be afraid without it dominating important . Well, look, i think its our lives. Going to be important for a lot President Trump sent that very of things, not the least of message on a day when the number of americans who have died from which theres supposed to be a debate between joe biden and covid is above 211,000. Donald trump and we dont know roughly the entire population of when this negative test was. We dont really even know when Salt Lake City. The first positive test was. Im quite sure those peoples so we dont know when the families are scared. President is going to get back and at this point, at least 14 on the campaign trail. I have no doubt hes going to people that we know of tied directly to the white house or access his twitter account, but the Trump Campaign have now been i think, steph, literally moment infected with at least one still after moment, watching these in the hospital. Former new jersey governor chris three briefings weve seen from the doctors, its obvious that christie. And remember, the president s what donald trump wants the own doctor, sean conley, has American People to know thats said the president is not yet good, the doctor is happy to out of the woods and he wont be share. Anything else the doctor is for at least a week. Holding back on. Lets dig deeper. We dont know quite frankly kara lee joins us from the white yesterday was asked point blank, house. Also yamiche alcindor. Does the president of the United States have pneumonia. He said, i dont want to get and it was Just Announced into that. When did the last negative test yamiche will be honored with the happen . Eiffel award. I dont want to look backward. And robert gibbs who was press we know those facts issue secretary under president obama. Inconvenient. Modeling that Good Behavior. Now that the president is home, making sure as the president goes about the activities that what is the plan . He must do as the chief how are they keeping other people in the white house safe . Executive of the United States that hes doing so in a way that it was just a week ago the is safe. Safe for the people that are president looked at somebody around him. With a mask and said, take that modeling that Good Behavior and i think we the white house thing off. Yeah, steph. Well, the plan is multifold in has really missed a huge terms of the president s medical opportunity to change the way care. This was thought about and the hes expected to continue to be way donald trump might be monitored 24 7. Thought about around coronavirus because he clearly hasnt taken we know from his doctor hes any of this stuff seriously, and supposed to receive the fifth dose of remdesivir some time we still see the same hiding the today. Facts on things the president his doctor also said yesterday, believes show weakness or were really in unchartered territory given the number of inconvenience. Treatments that the president carol, i want to go back to something yamiche mentioned has had and that he wouldnt breathe a sigh of relief until before, Contact Tracing. The white house has refused the next monday. In the meantime, the president cdcs help, and its not just and the white house are saying about Contact Tracing people who that hes set up to work in the were at the rose garden event residence so he can have a space last week. We still know that many havent he can continue to conduct the been contacted who were in countrys business. Cleveland, minnesota, and new but there are concerns among jersey, places where the president was throughout last people who are in the white week around hundreds and house who say they, one, are not hundreds of people. Any other first world country getting a lot of information about who is infected and being has responded to covid issues in a completely different manner notified in terms of contact than this. Yeah, steph. Tracing and generally fearful Contact Tracing is still a for their safety. We have statements from the really big concern, particularly white house saying all precautions are being taken to among people who have been in and around not just the make sure that everybody is safe, including, you know, there president but people who work for him. If you just take the rose is physical access to the president. It will be significantly limited garden, for snarninstance, on and appropriate ppe will be september 26th. Worn. Thats a statement from the the white house has not said white house. Whether everyone in the rose so the president is being taken garden was tested for care of medically in the coronavirus. Now theyve said that people around the president are tested residence. Also has a workspace there in the residence for him to do that for coronavirus so it suggests that not everyone in that very and the white house says theyre large gathering outside was. Taking all sorts of precautions. However, all of those people who just because the president is home doesnt mean some of this were mingling with each other anxiety that weve heard about outside and then another from people inside the white house has gone away. Question there is, was anyone theres still a number of concerns about from white who was outside, inside for the house officials who are having to go to work and wondering reception afterwards who wasnt whats happening now, but also tested for coronavirus . What happened and what they may and so what youre seeing is have been exposed to previously, that event and as you mentioned, steph. Yamiche, lets talk about the debate, the president traveling to bedminster, new jersey, at his club for a those people. With that least 14 people in his fundraiser after he knew one of inner circle who have been his closest aides had tested positive for coronavirus. And so its not just him. Infected, has anyone raised their hand and said im not its all of the people around comfortable going back to work . Him. There are definitely people and the problem that you are working from home that were not seeing and hearing from people working from home before this. Who have been in these different and the level of anxiety is through the roof when you talk locations is that they are not to white house officials, white hearing from the white house or house aides. I think the thing we have to any other government entity, and explain to people is, of course, they just dont know what their there are essential workers the exposure is and whether they can president sees as critical to go about their lives without being around him. Having to do Something Like chief of staff mark meadows being one of them. Quarantine, steph. Well, i will tell you, there are a host of other junior members thinking about the deputies of the white house schools, businesses, people in press secretary who are really just doing what their bosses do that bedminster area of new jersey, theyre paralyzed and which is if your boss doesnt wear a mask, you dont feel pan comfortable wearing a mask, so panicked. I want to bring in dr. Richard when you got exposed. Besser. There was a culture that exposed the president and ceo of the Robert Wood Johnson foundation. People and put people at risk your reaction to what the and now people are lining up to president did last night and get tested, lining up to figure said when he got back to the out what to do next and people white house. Very worried this contact stephanie, in Public Health, tracing the white house says its doing, theyre not actually we talk about teachable moments. Doing it in a thorough way in the fact there are not a lot of these times when everyones people who have been at these attention is focused on a critical issue, and you have the events who say ive not been contacted. I think of Chris Christie who opportunity to reframe things in said he learned about all of important ways. This on tv in news reports, even this was an opportunity to call though he was in the president s out the critical importance of vicinity in the debate prep and everyone in the nation coming now, of course, is hospitalized together and Wearing Masks and social distancing. With the coronavirus. And then add to that, the it was a time to call out the president saying that people importance of Contact Tracing. Shouldnt be afraid, shouldnt let the covid19 dominate their something that has been very life when, in fact, he, of challenging around the country course, had access to the best for Health Departments to do. It was a time to call out the medications, best medical teams in the world, in the country, and a lot of americans say, i didnt have that access. Severity of this pandemic. A lot of my family members didnt have that access and we the fact that 200,000 people, have 200,000 americans dead. More than 200,000 people have and the president is in some lost their lives. Ways still trying to downplay disproportionately, people of the virus, even as he fights the color, lower income people in america. Virus himself. Robert, if the president s it was a time for pulling us goal last night when he was up together as a nation, not to there waving on the balcony was talk about this as something that, you dont need to to be a symbol of strength, did i am extremely worried about he miss the mark . Was it not an opportunity to this pandemic as are most public say, america, i have experienced Health Leaders because of the fact were not doing the things this. I am now with you. That would really get this under ive learned from it. Let me protect you . Control. Well, his words didnt make stephanie, absolutely. Us safer. I think the most important line lets talk about his actions. In that video that you showed his own doctor, dr. Conley, said was when he said hed learned a the president is not yet out of the woods. Lot about the coronavirus. He wont be for a week. Learned a lot about covid. And i think you hoped his next in that time, what is the danger set of remarks would talk about to President Trump and the people around him . The importance of wearing a mask, the importance of social yeah, when you look at the distancing, the importance of time course of a covid doing the things that we have all been taught and learned to infection, this is still in the heart of that period where you do from the doctors over the past six or seven months. Can get worse. And so its really important and yet the flip was, dont let it dominate you. During that time that you limit dont be afraid. Your activities. Maybe im immune. That you definitely limit your i mean, this is a man clearly exposure to other people because that walked out of a hospital you are potentially infectious. Yesterday. Hes still actively shedding a virus. As you all have just talked its a risk not just to yourself about, nobody has been contacted but to those around you. And what youd like to see is or rare contact from even white behavior being modeled that house staff about what they everyone in the country who may should be doing. Come down with this infection so theres no doubt, and, look, as you see the polling, not just could follow. Weve talked about this before, post debate but now postcovid stephanie. The challenge that so many people have in being able to diagnosis, the number of people that believe that donald trump isolate safely at home away from has acted irresponsibly in his others. The fact that so many people own situation with covid is live in close quarters. When youre in a situation where nearly twothirds of the American People. Thats not the case, youd like and thats really all you need to see the behavior being to know. Yamiche, i want to stay on followed that models what you want to see in the ideal that. He had this chance, right . E situation. Where people are not in contact with others when they are potentially infectious. All right. I want to ask you about something that was the most Important News of the day that could impact millions of people across the country. New york times reporting that Top White House officials are now blocking guidelines for the emergency relief of a covid vaccine. Theyre saying forget the guidelines. They want to get it done before the election. Thats according to people familiar with the approval process. Can you explain this to us . I mean, safety is the number one issue here. Well, you know, its not just safety. Its trust. And in order to have trust that a vaccine that gets approved is safe and effective, we need to have hands off of the fda. They need to be able to set the standards, and these standards make sense in terms of making sure youre following people long enough to see if there are safety issues that youre following people along enough to make sure there have been enough severe cases of covid that you can tell whether the vehiclesine truly works. The idea that the political layer of government would tell fda to do their work is absolutely chilling. I do want to ask you, the president tweeted this morning comparing covid to the flu saying we have to learn to live with covid the same way we do with the flu. President trump said when the weather got warm in the summer, it would be gone. He said we wouldnt face a second wave in the fall, we obviously are. Hes got it. What do you think of his message, the covid and the flu, the same diffy . I think there are things people can do right now going into this winter to reduce their risk. One is to think about the flu and make sure youve got your flu shot. The other is to recognize that wearing a mask, washing hands, social distancing, complying with Public Health guidelines is the best way to protect yourself, not just from the flu but from covid. There likely will be a day that covid and the flu are treated in similar ways and that hopefully there will be a vaccine and well be able to vaccinate. But at this time, the vaccine equivalent for covid is social distancing, Wearing Masks, hand washing and doing all of these things that have been effective in states in the country, red and blue states that have employed them and in countries around the globe that are taking this seriously and following Public Health. Dr. Besser, always good to have you here. You always make us feel smarter and definitely safer. Coming up next exactly four weeks away from election day, and Vice President joe biden brings out a surprise guest to make his closing argument. And later, the latest on the Coronavirus Relief negotiations. Im talking about the next stimulus bill. As millions of americans are still out of work. Plus wall street warming to the possibility of a blue wave. But it may not be that simple. But a resilient business you cacan be ready for it. Re. A Digital Foundation from vmware helps you redefine whats possible. Now. From the hospital shifting to remote patient care in just 48 hours. To the university moving hundreds of apps quickly to the cloud. Or the City Government Going Digital to keep Critical Services running. You are creating the future on the fly. And we are helping you do it. Vmware. Realize whats possible. Im happy to give you the tour, i lohey jay. It. Jay . Charlotte oh hi. He helped me set up my watch lists. Oh, hes terrific. Excellent tennis player. Byebye. I recognize that voice. Annie . Yeah she helped me find the right bonds for my income strategy. Youre very popular around here. Theres a birthday going on. Karl he took care of my 401k rollover. Wow, you call a lot. Yeah, well its my mon joining us for karaoke later . Ah, id love to, but people get really emotional when i sing. Help from a team that will exceed your expectations. Lift it press it downward dog it watch it sweat it bend and stretch it renew active gives you so many more ways to be healthy. Get medicare with more. This morning, we are exactly four weeks away from election day. And while the president continues to recover from the coronavirus off the trail, joe biden is focusing on the battleground states and hes there today. Heading to pennsylvania after spending yesterday in florida speaking to voters and answering questions at a town hall largely focused on the coronavirus. The virus also hanging over tomorrows debate between Vice President mike pence and senator Kamala Harris. The Debate Commission announcing new safety protocols late last night. Ali vitali is getting ready for that debate in Salt Lake City where final prep is under way. Ali, take us to the ground. What are you hearing from the commission and both camps . Yeah, steph, obviously news of those plexiglas barriers was happening overnight last night. But in talking to people with both campaigns, both Kamala Harris and mike pence have been preparing for this debate for weeks. Poring over briefing books and also preparing lines of attack. The thing thats interesting is after the president s hospitalization, there was a lot of talk about a shifting of tone when the two candidates were going to contrast against each other on the stage. But the Vice President ial running mates tend to take their cues from the tippy top of the ticket. If you look at the way President Trump<\/a> sent that very of things, not the least of message on a day when the number of americans who have died from which theres supposed to be a debate between joe biden and covid is above 211,000. Donald trump and we dont know roughly the entire population of when this negative test was. We dont really even know when Salt Lake City<\/a>. The first positive test was. Im quite sure those peoples so we dont know when the families are scared. President is going to get back and at this point, at least 14 on the campaign trail. I have no doubt hes going to people that we know of tied directly to the white house or access his twitter account, but the Trump Campaign<\/a> have now been i think, steph, literally moment infected with at least one still after moment, watching these in the hospital. Former new jersey governor chris three briefings weve seen from the doctors, its obvious that christie. And remember, the president s what donald trump wants the own doctor, sean conley, has American People<\/a> to know thats said the president is not yet good, the doctor is happy to out of the woods and he wont be share. Anything else the doctor is for at least a week. Holding back on. Lets dig deeper. We dont know quite frankly kara lee joins us from the white yesterday was asked point blank, house. Also yamiche alcindor. Does the president of the United States<\/a> have pneumonia. He said, i dont want to get and it was Just Announced<\/a> into that. When did the last negative test yamiche will be honored with the happen . Eiffel award. I dont want to look backward. And robert gibbs who was press we know those facts issue secretary under president obama. Inconvenient. Modeling that Good Behavior<\/a>. Now that the president is home, making sure as the president goes about the activities that what is the plan . He must do as the chief how are they keeping other people in the white house safe . Executive of the United States<\/a> that hes doing so in a way that it was just a week ago the is safe. Safe for the people that are president looked at somebody around him. With a mask and said, take that modeling that Good Behavior<\/a> and i think we the white house thing off. Yeah, steph. Well, the plan is multifold in has really missed a huge terms of the president s medical opportunity to change the way care. This was thought about and the hes expected to continue to be way donald trump might be monitored 24 7. Thought about around coronavirus because he clearly hasnt taken we know from his doctor hes any of this stuff seriously, and supposed to receive the fifth dose of remdesivir some time we still see the same hiding the today. Facts on things the president his doctor also said yesterday, believes show weakness or were really in unchartered territory given the number of inconvenience. Treatments that the president carol, i want to go back to something yamiche mentioned has had and that he wouldnt breathe a sigh of relief until before, Contact Tracing<\/a>. The white house has refused the next monday. In the meantime, the president cdcs help, and its not just and the white house are saying about Contact Tracing<\/a> people who that hes set up to work in the were at the rose garden event residence so he can have a space last week. We still know that many havent he can continue to conduct the been contacted who were in countrys business. Cleveland, minnesota, and new but there are concerns among jersey, places where the president was throughout last people who are in the white week around hundreds and house who say they, one, are not hundreds of people. Any other first world country getting a lot of information about who is infected and being has responded to covid issues in a completely different manner notified in terms of contact than this. Yeah, steph. Tracing and generally fearful Contact Tracing<\/a> is still a for their safety. We have statements from the really big concern, particularly white house saying all precautions are being taken to among people who have been in and around not just the make sure that everybody is safe, including, you know, there president but people who work for him. If you just take the rose is physical access to the president. It will be significantly limited garden, for snarninstance, on and appropriate ppe will be september 26th. Worn. Thats a statement from the the white house has not said white house. Whether everyone in the rose so the president is being taken garden was tested for care of medically in the coronavirus. Now theyve said that people around the president are tested residence. Also has a workspace there in the residence for him to do that for coronavirus so it suggests that not everyone in that very and the white house says theyre large gathering outside was. Taking all sorts of precautions. However, all of those people who just because the president is home doesnt mean some of this were mingling with each other anxiety that weve heard about outside and then another from people inside the white house has gone away. Question there is, was anyone theres still a number of concerns about from white who was outside, inside for the house officials who are having to go to work and wondering reception afterwards who wasnt whats happening now, but also tested for coronavirus . What happened and what they may and so what youre seeing is have been exposed to previously, that event and as you mentioned, steph. Yamiche, lets talk about the debate, the president traveling to bedminster, new jersey, at his club for a those people. With that least 14 people in his fundraiser after he knew one of inner circle who have been his closest aides had tested positive for coronavirus. And so its not just him. Infected, has anyone raised their hand and said im not its all of the people around comfortable going back to work . Him. There are definitely people and the problem that you are working from home that were not seeing and hearing from people working from home before this. Who have been in these different and the level of anxiety is through the roof when you talk locations is that they are not to white house officials, white hearing from the white house or house aides. I think the thing we have to any other government entity, and explain to people is, of course, they just dont know what their there are essential workers the exposure is and whether they can president sees as critical to go about their lives without being around him. Having to do Something Like<\/a> chief of staff mark meadows being one of them. Quarantine, steph. Well, i will tell you, there are a host of other junior members thinking about the deputies of the white house schools, businesses, people in press secretary who are really just doing what their bosses do that bedminster area of new jersey, theyre paralyzed and which is if your boss doesnt wear a mask, you dont feel pan comfortable wearing a mask, so panicked. I want to bring in dr. Richard when you got exposed. Besser. There was a culture that exposed the president and ceo of the Robert Wood Johnson<\/a> foundation. People and put people at risk your reaction to what the and now people are lining up to president did last night and get tested, lining up to figure said when he got back to the out what to do next and people white house. Very worried this contact stephanie, in Public Health<\/a>, tracing the white house says its doing, theyre not actually we talk about teachable moments. Doing it in a thorough way in the fact there are not a lot of these times when everyones people who have been at these attention is focused on a critical issue, and you have the events who say ive not been contacted. I think of Chris Christie<\/a> who opportunity to reframe things in said he learned about all of important ways. This on tv in news reports, even this was an opportunity to call though he was in the president s out the critical importance of vicinity in the debate prep and everyone in the nation coming now, of course, is hospitalized together and Wearing Masks<\/a> and social distancing. With the coronavirus. And then add to that, the it was a time to call out the president saying that people importance of Contact Tracing<\/a>. Shouldnt be afraid, shouldnt let the covid19 dominate their something that has been very life when, in fact, he, of challenging around the country course, had access to the best for Health Departments<\/a> to do. It was a time to call out the medications, best medical teams in the world, in the country, and a lot of americans say, i didnt have that access. Severity of this pandemic. A lot of my family members didnt have that access and we the fact that 200,000 people, have 200,000 americans dead. More than 200,000 people have and the president is in some lost their lives. Ways still trying to downplay disproportionately, people of the virus, even as he fights the color, lower income people in america. Virus himself. Robert, if the president s it was a time for pulling us goal last night when he was up together as a nation, not to there waving on the balcony was talk about this as something that, you dont need to to be a symbol of strength, did i am extremely worried about he miss the mark . Was it not an opportunity to this pandemic as are most public say, america, i have experienced Health Leaders<\/a> because of the fact were not doing the things this. I am now with you. That would really get this under ive learned from it. Let me protect you . Control. Well, his words didnt make stephanie, absolutely. Us safer. I think the most important line lets talk about his actions. In that video that you showed his own doctor, dr. Conley, said was when he said hed learned a the president is not yet out of the woods. Lot about the coronavirus. He wont be for a week. Learned a lot about covid. And i think you hoped his next in that time, what is the danger set of remarks would talk about to President Trump<\/a> and the people around him . The importance of wearing a mask, the importance of social yeah, when you look at the distancing, the importance of time course of a covid doing the things that we have all been taught and learned to infection, this is still in the heart of that period where you do from the doctors over the past six or seven months. Can get worse. And so its really important and yet the flip was, dont let it dominate you. During that time that you limit dont be afraid. Your activities. Maybe im immune. That you definitely limit your i mean, this is a man clearly exposure to other people because that walked out of a hospital you are potentially infectious. Yesterday. Hes still actively shedding a virus. As you all have just talked its a risk not just to yourself about, nobody has been contacted but to those around you. And what youd like to see is or rare contact from even white behavior being modeled that house staff about what they everyone in the country who may should be doing. Come down with this infection so theres no doubt, and, look, as you see the polling, not just could follow. Weve talked about this before, post debate but now postcovid stephanie. The challenge that so many people have in being able to diagnosis, the number of people that believe that donald trump isolate safely at home away from has acted irresponsibly in his others. The fact that so many people own situation with covid is live in close quarters. When youre in a situation where nearly twothirds of the American People<\/a>. Thats not the case, youd like and thats really all you need to see the behavior being to know. Yamiche, i want to stay on followed that models what you want to see in the ideal that. He had this chance, right . E situation. Where people are not in contact with others when they are potentially infectious. All right. I want to ask you about something that was the most Important News<\/a> of the day that could impact millions of people across the country. New york times reporting that Top White House<\/a> officials are now blocking guidelines for the emergency relief of a covid vaccine. Theyre saying forget the guidelines. They want to get it done before the election. Thats according to people familiar with the approval process. Can you explain this to us . I mean, safety is the number one issue here. Well, you know, its not just safety. Its trust. And in order to have trust that a vaccine that gets approved is safe and effective, we need to have hands off of the fda. They need to be able to set the standards, and these standards make sense in terms of making sure youre following people long enough to see if there are safety issues that youre following people along enough to make sure there have been enough severe cases of covid that you can tell whether the vehiclesine truly works. The idea that the political layer of government would tell fda to do their work is absolutely chilling. I do want to ask you, the president tweeted this morning comparing covid to the flu saying we have to learn to live with covid the same way we do with the flu. President trump said when the weather got warm in the summer, it would be gone. He said we wouldnt face a second wave in the fall, we obviously are. Hes got it. What do you think of his message, the covid and the flu, the same diffy . I think there are things people can do right now going into this winter to reduce their risk. One is to think about the flu and make sure youve got your flu shot. The other is to recognize that wearing a mask, washing hands, social distancing, complying with Public Health<\/a> guidelines is the best way to protect yourself, not just from the flu but from covid. There likely will be a day that covid and the flu are treated in similar ways and that hopefully there will be a vaccine and well be able to vaccinate. But at this time, the vaccine equivalent for covid is social distancing, Wearing Masks<\/a>, hand washing and doing all of these things that have been effective in states in the country, red and blue states that have employed them and in countries around the globe that are taking this seriously and following Public Health<\/a>. Dr. Besser, always good to have you here. You always make us feel smarter and definitely safer. Coming up next exactly four weeks away from election day, and Vice President<\/a> joe biden brings out a surprise guest to make his closing argument. And later, the latest on the Coronavirus Relief<\/a> negotiations. Im talking about the next stimulus bill. As millions of americans are still out of work. Plus wall street warming to the possibility of a blue wave. But it may not be that simple. But a resilient business you cacan be ready for it. Re. A Digital Foundation<\/a> from vmware helps you redefine whats possible. Now. From the hospital shifting to remote patient care in just 48 hours. To the university moving hundreds of apps quickly to the cloud. Or the City Government<\/a> Going Digital<\/a> to keep Critical Services<\/a> running. You are creating the future on the fly. And we are helping you do it. Vmware. Realize whats possible. Im happy to give you the tour, i lohey jay. It. Jay . Charlotte oh hi. He helped me set up my watch lists. Oh, hes terrific. Excellent tennis player. Byebye. I recognize that voice. Annie . Yeah she helped me find the right bonds for my income strategy. Youre very popular around here. Theres a birthday going on. Karl he took care of my 401k rollover. Wow, you call a lot. Yeah, well its my mon joining us for karaoke later . Ah, id love to, but people get really emotional when i sing. Help from a team that will exceed your expectations. Lift it press it downward dog it watch it sweat it bend and stretch it renew active gives you so many more ways to be healthy. Get medicare with more. This morning, we are exactly four weeks away from election day. And while the president continues to recover from the coronavirus off the trail, joe biden is focusing on the battleground states and hes there today. Heading to pennsylvania after spending yesterday in florida speaking to voters and answering questions at a town hall largely focused on the coronavirus. The virus also hanging over tomorrows debate between Vice President<\/a> mike pence and senator Kamala Harris<\/a>. The Debate Commission<\/a> announcing new safety protocols late last night. Ali vitali is getting ready for that debate in Salt Lake City<\/a> where final prep is under way. Ali, take us to the ground. What are you hearing from the commission and both camps . Yeah, steph, obviously news of those plexiglas barriers was happening overnight last night. But in talking to people with both campaigns, both Kamala Harris<\/a> and mike pence have been preparing for this debate for weeks. Poring over briefing books and also preparing lines of attack. The thing thats interesting is after the president s hospitalization, there was a lot of talk about a shifting of tone when the two candidates were going to contrast against each other on the stage. But the Vice President<\/a> ial running mates tend to take their cues from the tippy top of the ticket. If you look at the way President Trump<\/a> has been talking on twitter this morning it seems any kind of political detente or attempt to elevate this moment above partisan politics is just not happening. And for Kamala Harris<\/a> part if youre looking at the way joe biden was talking on the campaign trail, yes, hes tried in recent days while trump was at walter reed to not directly attack the president or the first lady, but last night in that town hall with lester holt, we did hear him say he wasnt exactly surprised that the president and first lady got the coronavirus given the way that theyve askewed Wearing Masks<\/a>. Whether or not the contrasts are going to be more personal or partisan, frankly, once we get on the debate stage. So final preparations here in Salt Lake City<\/a>, but also a time for final pitches. Were four weeks out from election day. Top democratic surrogates like Michelle Obama<\/a> releasing their final pitch to voters as you were getting on the air this morning. Listen. His willful mismanagement of the covid crisis is just one example of his negligence. When wildfires rage out west, he says nothing for weeks. When americans of all backgrounds peacefully protest racism and police violence, he disparages them yet eggs on heavily armed militias. When our heroic young men and women answer the call and give their lives for our country, he calls them suckers and losers. And, steph, in posting that message, Michelle Obama<\/a> called the last few days a bracing reminder of whats going on and the tragedy thats happened over the course of this administration. Her pitch, very closely mirroring what weve heard from joe biden and Kamala Harris<\/a> on the campaign trail, and i imagine its more of what were going to hear here in Salt Lake City<\/a> wednesday night. Steph . Ali, thank you. Lets dig deeper. Lilly adams, adviser for the dnc war room and former Communications Director<\/a> for Kamala Harris<\/a> and fernan fernand amandi, a former consultant to Barack Obamas<\/a> campaign. You are always welcome to join us on air with any policy advisers. You know how senator Kamala Harris<\/a> operates. How is she getting ready for this debate since theyve been walking this fine line of pulling negative ads while the president was in the hospital . I think shell view this as an opportunity to talk to the American People<\/a>, talk to those undecided voters out there and really mobilize folks who are already going to the polls. But i think shell also hold the Trump Administration<\/a> writ large accountable, including Vice President<\/a> mike pence who is head of the Covid Task Force<\/a> for frankly a complete failure at every level to contain the coronavirus thats punished not only the 211,000 americans who have lost their lives but the millions of folks who are their family members, the millions of folks who have lost their jobs and seen their hours cut back. I think she will speak directly to those sorts of anxieties and worries that the American People<\/a> are feeling right now. And just outline the leadership that she and joe biden could bring to the many crises that are facing this country. We have two people running for president who are over the age of 70. Theres a lot of focus from voters on these vp picks. And tomorrow night. Youve been talking to voters in one of the most important swing states, florida. What do they want to see tomorrow . Well, certainly i think theyre looking for a major departure from that embarrassment which was the first debate caused solely really by President Trump<\/a> who put on an ugly display for american democracy around the world. I actually think you will see a more reserved Vice President<\/a> pence. Youll certainly see Kamala Harris<\/a> with all of her strengths as a former prosecutor. Those that weve also seen in the Senate Committee<\/a> hearings on display. And by contrast, i think in some respects, that will even undermine more the president s disastrous first appearance. But just like in the debate, that contrast which was also on display for older voters last night, stephanie, a stark and disturbing contrast. We saw in former Vice President<\/a> biden a wouldbe president who is bound by the rule of law talking about the importance of taking the virus seriously. The protocols, Wearing Masks<\/a>. By contrast, we saw in President Trump<\/a> someone who looked like a wouldbe dictator acting as a superspreader of the virus that has caused the unnecessary, premature deaths of 212,000 americans from the peoples house, in the white house. So i think the stage is set for an epic and historic Vice President<\/a> ial debate tomorrow night. Lily, who is the Kamala Harris<\/a> voter . Who does she bring in to the ticket to support her and joe biden . Well, i think thats such a broad group now. In particular because i think one of the issues that will be at the front and center at this debate, youll see the plexiglas there that will be a reminder. Is this administrations failure on coronavirus. So she will not only be speaking to families and seniors who are worried about the safety and health of their loved ones but also to communities of color who are concerned about the high rate at which those communities are contracting this virus and being killed by this virus. But i also think its a really good behinder that what i expect well see from Vice President<\/a> pence is what was being talked, about a more reserved tone but no fewer lies than what weve seen from donald trump. But lily im not asking you about Vice President<\/a> pence or drawing a stark contrast. Im asking who is Kamala Harris<\/a> base . Who is her voter . We saw in the primary that she performs well among suburban women which youve seen as key to this ticket to seeing some of the margins weve seen in recent polls. She speaks directly, obviously, her life story to many communities of color and immigrants who see themselves in her. She has the potential to completely broaden the base and speak to a wide swath of americans on the debate stage tomorrow night. A lot of americans who are sick of what theyve seen. I want to ask you about new polling you have out of miami where joe biden is leading President Trump<\/a> among hispanic voters but losing among cuban americans, despite the fact that he does not have communist or socialist policies. He does not have a socialist track record and the president continues to hammer that all day long and yesterday. How ironic that the president who says he is in love with a communist dictator of north korea dares to impugn joe biden. He is always guilty of projecting out what he himself does on a frequent basis. Its not surprising. But back to the polling numbers. I think one of the things we see here in miamidade county, joe biden is still a little bit off of Hillary Clintons<\/a> pace here in dade county from four years ago. Hillary won it by almost 30 points and still came up short in florida with those 29 crucial electoral votes. But the salvation for Vice President<\/a> biden, a trend were seeing in the other counties of the state. Hes doing much better with older white anglo voters. Especially those 65 plus which would make sense given that they are the most vulnerable to the horrific mismanagement of this pandemic by the Trump Administration<\/a>. So if joe biden continues to overperform with those older white voters, he may win florida and if he wins florida its going to make it very hard on Election Night<\/a> for donald trump to try and play the illegitimate election card. A decisive win on Election Night<\/a> will make it really hard to contest this election. Fernand, lily, thank you very much. All our eyes will be on tomorrow night. The only Vice President<\/a> ial debate. Our colleagues rachel maddow, nicolle wallace, joy reid and Brian Williams<\/a> will have special coverage at 8 00 p. M. Eastern on msnbc. After the break, the stock market bouncing back, but not for the reasons you might think. Who knows where that button is . I dont have silent. Everyone does right up here. It happens to all of us. 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Yesterday the markets shot higher after a very rough friday but there are two very different narratives as to why. The white house says the markets are happy because President Trump<\/a> is getting better. Others say the exact opposite. Because what started markets on a skittish path last week was the debate. And chaos about a potential contested election. With former vp biden taking a larger lead in the polls, a decisive victory whomever wins mean less chance for a contested election. Thats what markets are looking for. Transparency and a calm democracy, right . Yes, i mean, its a little of all of those things you mentioned. We saw markets react to President Trump<\/a>s diagnosis or proclamation that he had covid19. We also saw it respond to more positive developments on that front. Whats more interesting right now is the thing thats driving markets the most at this particular moment ahead of the election is the idea that Congress Might<\/a> be able to actually get a coronavirus stimulus package, another version of it, out and approved with money to americans who really need it the most. When you do see prospects for that, any kind of a relief package coming out of congress, thats when markets respond positively to the upside. You brought up this notion here that theres uncertainty thats brewing right now. Yes, there is. At the same time theres a notion theres a belief out there that if you do not have as much of a contested election that markets can go higher. The polls right now are indicating that you could see a little more certainty with regard to Vice President<\/a> joe biden securing that particular election. Thats not to say that it will happen. Polls have been wrong in the past. I harken back to 2016. But the certainty element is what markets are looking more for. Thats the main reason youre seeing a little bit of positivity. Remember, stephanie, this isnt like were seeing a 2,000point rally in the dow but a lot of people are waiting to see what happens in the couple of weeks ahead of the election. Thats the reason youre seeing, again, stable markets, not rocketing higher or falling like a stone to the down side. Not yet. Then who or what is standing in the way of the stimulus package . If democrats are trying to pass this robust package that will help cities, states, schools and the millions of americans struggling and we know the president is laser beam focused on big business and markets, why wouldnt they just get a package done. Last i checked having big debts and deficits is something republicans used to care about. Yeah, and thats been a big narrative so far right now. This idea that were expanding our deficits on the budget side of things. This is far the conversations moved far away from the trade deficit side of things over the course of the last several months. The budget deficits at this point here are in play right now because of a huge concerted effort to battle the covid19 pandemic. The biggest threat to the u. S. Right now from that pandemic, aside from the obvious health factors, is the notion that the u. S. Economy could again go into that very, very deep depressionlike recessionlike element we saw in march, april and may. Now that weve recovered slightly from it if you can get the notion of more stimulus out there, the economy could be set for a higher path forward. If it does not happen, then you risk that element going into a very tough season when the flu could strike at everything else. So lawmakers at this stage really need to come together and figure out whether or not the economy can withstand another shock like that. Right now theres not a lot of at least Market Sentiment<\/a> that says that lawmakers will not come to an agreement but they feel as though that fiscal stimulus, that government aid will happen more possibly with the Democratic Administration<\/a> and much more so in a possible blue wave quote unquote scenario like you pointed out. The pressure is on for both parties. President trump yesterday urging secretary mnuchin and leader mcconnell to get something done. Dom, thank you. When we come back, i want to stay on this idea of election or voting chaos in a key battleground state. Less than a month before the election. What is behind new calls to investigate Election Integrity<\/a> in the state of pennsylvania. Sprinting past every leak in our softest, smoothest fabric. Shes confident, protected, her strength respected. Depend. The only thing stronger than us, is you. So when it comes to screening for colon cancer, dont wait. Because when caught early, its more treatable. Im cologuard. 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All of this, of course, happening in one of the most crucial battleground states that could tip this election. Dasha burns is in one of the mustwin counties. I was there earlier this year. Beaver county, pennsylvania. Dasha, what are you hearing from Election Officials<\/a> there . Hey, stephanie. Good morning. Later today, county officials including county commissioners, workers at the Elections Bureau<\/a> and the county sheriff will be meeting here at the Beaver County<\/a> courthouse to try and tackle a plan for how to assure safety at the polls. This is the meeting that will likely be the first of many. And it came about from questions from voters around safety and security and officials here want to ensure everyone feels comfortable exercising their right to vote on election day. Now 2020 has created some unique conditions that could pose some challenges at the 129 polling places across Beaver County<\/a> and the many more across the state of pennsylvania. Theres, of course, covid19. How do you ensure folks are following safety protocols, including social distancing and mask wearing especially as covid itself has become a political issue. But there are also questions around voter intimidation and conflict as the tensions are high around this election. I spoke to the sheriff here, sheriff tony guy. Hes seen fights between families, fights between friends, and he doesnt want that spilling over into the voting area. Take a listen to some of what he told me. We are increasing our numbers. Well have more manpower out there to deal with any potential situations. Are you concerned about voter intimidation . Its a great question. And thats part of this. I know in past elections, in different places, there has been legitimate voter intimidation. We wont tolerate that here. And those are things well respond to quickly and adequately. Stephanie, there are a lot of questions that will be addressed in this building today. One change thats been made. When you walk into a polling place, those people that stand outside will have to be an extra ten feet away from the voting area to create that extra space, give extra comfort to voters as they go into that voting booth. Stephanie . Dasha, thank you. Joining me to discuss, democratic member of the Pennsylvania House<\/a> of representatives, malcolm kenyatta. Help us understand this. Republicans are creating a committee that could investigate novembers vote, and the election hasnt even happened yet. What is going on . Thank you so much, stephanie. Whats going on is donald trump is afraid of having to run on his record and so instead of litigating this election in the public square, he is trying to litigate this election in the courts. There have been multiple lawsuits he has filed to try to distract and dissuade voters from coming out and exercising their right to vote. And this commission on Election Integrity<\/a> is another example of the Republican Party<\/a> really being sycophants and imbracing any crazy idea that comes out of the president s month and on his twitter feed, even if its going to come at the cost of our democracy. Is there anything you can do about it . They control the state legislature. I think that what folks need to recognize, and i think what folks need to do is vote. They need to vote like theyve never voted before. And as i said before, we can stop this. Our term in the state Legislature Begins<\/a> on december 1st. If we win back the state house, we can stop a lot of these plans that they have been laying out to try to screw with the election. So people need to vote by mail. They need to vote early. They need to vote safely in person if they choose to. What i think voters do understand, and i think were seeing it in a lot of the polls that donald trump and the Republican Party<\/a>, they want to take away your health care. They want to take away social security. They even want to take away your vote. But the thing that donald trump refuses to do is to take responsibility for his record of failure. Help us understand poll watchers because poll watchers have been part of the election process for quite some time. But in this case, it is different. Can you explain it to us . Absolutely. So we do have poll watchers. If you want to be a poll watcher, theres a process by which you apply through the local republican or democratic parties to get a poll watching certificate. And everybody wants a fair election. But what we do know is that theres been a history of voter intimidation. The Republican Party<\/a> here in pennsylvania was under a dissent decree for a long time because of the type of voter intimidation that the president has consistently encouraged. But just like in that hearing, were not going to be intimidated by donald trump. And i know, you know, the president likes to watch tv, stephanie. So if hes watching, i would say, mr. President , you have made the last four years hard enough. Dont make it hard for people to vote. Lastly, are any of these headlines valid, these voting issues in your state beyond what republicans are trying to do at the core of it, does that is there are there any real problems . So whats so frustrating for me, stephanie is that there are things that we could do to make this process fair. We could deal with the issues around naked ballots that would ensure that every vote counts. County commissioners have been imploring the state legislature to do around allowing them to precanvas ballots so were not waiting weeks and weeks for the results of the election. We could do things like making sure theres a cure if folks have issues with their signature or issues as i mentioned before, with the ballot. They didnt put their ballot inside the separate envelope. We could do things like that. But instead of sitting dun and getting serious about areas of bipartisan concern, you have republicans just pushing forward and trying to ram through Donald Trumps<\/a> wish list of Voter Suppression<\/a> and intimidation. People got to get out there and theyve got to vote. Thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate it. Thank you for covering this. [narrator] the shark vacmop combines powerful suction with spray mopping to lock away debris and absorb wet messes, all in one disposable pad. Just vacuum, spray mop, and toss. The shark vacmop, a complete clean all in one disposable pad. Well, audreys expecting. Twins grandparents we want to put money aside for them, so. Change in plans. Alright, lets see what we can adjust. Wed be closer to the twins. Change in plans. Okay. Mom, are you painting again . You could sell these. Lemme guess, change in plans . At fidelity, a change in plans is always part of the plan. Lemme guess, change in plans . Hey mama, whats up . Im confused. 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Sign up today and get cash back with rakuten. Early voting begins in texas one week from today. Not everybody is going to have e wall access to the ballot box. The Texas Governor<\/a> limited the number of absentee dropoff locations to one per county. In Harris County<\/a> im talking about where houston is, we already saw massive lines like these stretching into the night on super tuesday. You Voting Rights<\/a> advocates are suing to block the order. Priscilla thompson is outside the arena, the countys only dropoff location. Harris county is the Third Largest<\/a> in the nation, home to 4. 7 million people. How far do people have to travel to drop off their ballots and the rationale the governor has for having just one . Reporter well, stephanie, this is a county of nearly 1800 square miles. It means for folks who dont live in this area, maybe live in the outskirts of the county, theyre coming a pretty long way to be here and drop off these p ballots. They drive up to this location, the only one in the county, and drop off these ballots and show their i. D. And sign verify that signature before they head out. But it is a very big concern, as you mentioned, among Voting Rights<\/a> groups and advocates. Harris county has sent out more than 200,000 absentee ballots and right now theyve only gotten in around 1500. Theres a lot more to be brought in and right now thats going to be happening at this location and only this location in Harris County<\/a>. And local officials there, what are they saying . They are not happy about it. We have heard two words. Voter suppression, being thrown around quite a bit. I want you to listen to what the i dont think we have that sound available, but the mayor of houston just spoke about going from having 12 in person places to drop off those absentee ballots to one. He called it Voter Suppression<\/a>. We heard the county judge here saying that for Harris County<\/a>, to only have one site when it is the size of some states like rhode island, even bigger than some states, it just makes no sense. Stephanie . Michelle obama said bring a folding chair and a picnic. Youre going to be waiting in line for a while, but dont forget to vote. That wraps up this hour. Hallie jackson is next. Hallie jt a Digital Foundation<\/a> from vmware helps you redefine whats possible. Now. From the hospital shifting to remote patient care in just 48 hours. To the university moving hundreds of apps quickly to the cloud. Or the City Government<\/a> Going Digital<\/a> to keep Critical Services<\/a> running. You are creating the future on the fly. And we are helping you do it. Vmware. Realize whats possible. And im still going for my best. Even though i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. So if theres a better treatment than warfarin, im on top of that. Eliquis. 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