Counselor president. Ma he probably want my number one priority of what it has been to be a discreet adviser and somebody who helps him and supports him in communicating with america. And thats smooth transition promised by the white house is starting to show some cracks as the add minuministration cracks un and israel. Carrie is joining me this. This is sean spicers appointment. Hes on tv a lot and whats your take on this . Well, ali, sean spicer has been a long time rnc communicator. Hes very used to be on tv and advocating for republican polici policies. This is not a great surprise that hes a pick, he was long known to be a front runner for the job. Sean spicer does have a representation willing to mix it up with the press core and giving aggressive push backs to reporters. It will be in the trump style in terms of pushing back. Spicer is a logical pick. He does get into it with the media. He does have no, masome mem moments. That was appealing. He talks to people. We see josh earnest, the current secretary in the briefing room. Will we see sean spicer in the briefing room. Well, we does not seem adverse at all. He likes to mix it up with the press. He likes Kellyanne Conway and he seems to engage in the idea that i want to have this conversation all the time. Well, we hear Kellyanne Conway earlier today in a series of media interviews she did promising the Trump Administration will engage with the media both the president elect trump himself and his communication staff, trump assembled this. People that have covered trump for the entirety of the kacampan are familiar with this group of staff. They are setting themselves up to have a lot of interactions with the press core. And pushing back that promise press conference from earlier this month. Theyll have their words cut up for them in terms of answering questions from the president elect trump. You may never need to have a press conference and these two will do a lot of talking. Kellyanne conway, this is in the month in the making. We are all wondering what job she will get. Well, she turned down the job. She did not apparently want to be press secretary. She was looking for a position thatll put her in a place thatll continue to serve essentially the president elect trump. She obviously, the third and final Campaign Manager during the campaign. She was somebody that earned his trust. I think there was a Decision Making process. She spoken publicly, she has four children, they all have to move and her family is moving to washington. Thats sometimes for folks, it is not an easy decision to make. She has young kids. Yesterday, the president elect trump emerged from maralago, here is what he say and how Kellyanne Conway responded when asked about his remarks. Listen to this. You know my plans. Will that count as something you are going to look at in your policy . That in of itself . No. Okay, lets talk about this a little bit. Donald trump says you know my plan, i have been 100 right and Kellyanne Conway going further saying we are not going to ban people based on their religion. It maybe geography. Whats going on here. Donald trump is saying you have known my plan all along come to a surprised reporter who have been covering him. Looking back at this time last yeer year, his campaign put out an unequivocal statement saying that muslims maybe ban temporarily until we figure out whats going on. That position evolved from the candidate which she descri candidate which he describe describes he wants extreme vetting. He did not explain what country heser hes referring to and Kellyanne Conway, you heard her saying no religion itself in a vacuuvacuu. Thats something we have not heard from the candidate and until you hear something coming out of the president elect trumps mouth knowing exactly what the parameters of policymaking are going to look like. It is difficult to rely on. He appeared to double down on his original position yesterday. And clearly his age are doing a little bit of clean up today. Interesting stuff. Thanks to both of you. Tonight, Rachel Maddow sits down with Kellyanne Conway at 9 00 p. M. Southeaste 9 00 p. M. Eastern right here on msnbc. Lets turn to the manhunt of the christmas attack. Dna evidence linked anis amri to the site of the attack. Fingerprints found in the truck makes him the suspect. He was on watch list in europe and today, two u. S. Intelligence confirmed that amri had isis sympathies and links. All of this comes as germans adjust to their new normal. The market in berlin had been opened three days before christmas. Police kicked down doors across the german capitols. We are covering all angles from berlin to dc. Lets start with matt bradley whos in berlin. This investigation is stretched beyond berlin to a refugee camp on the dutch german border to poland and italy, what are you hearing right now and the new evidence that they have . Thats right. Ali, the latest that wi heae hes that amri was a prime suspect here and the perpetrator of this attack. They found fingerprints in the cab of the truck and on the exterior according to some media errors reports of the truck. It makes it close to put this 24yearold anis amri right here. It is about 72 hours since the attack. Everything is more or less back to normal. I dont know if you have been to german Christmas Market but you know everybody here, theyre having a good time and drinking more wine and eating Petro Poroshenko pretzels and snacks. They silenced all the music here. Booi behind me as you can see and barely see, there is some little shrines that have been set up and candles and flowers and merkel was here laying her own flowers for r tthe victims. There were system firefighters on my left and they were the same firefighters responded to this 72 hours ago. This is a lot of christmas cheer here and people are trying their best and it is quiet and solemn. People here are trying to eat out Something Like christmas, it is not so easy. It is what they are doing in america. Theyre trying to be not be defeated but remember the tragedy that occurred a few days ago. Matt, thanks for your great reporting. Matt bradley, justice correspondent, pete williams, is joining us now. What is your source saying of amri of his past . There was known to u. S. Sb intelligence and thats the germans passing information along the u. S. About him. The German Authorities were onto him and concerned about him and none the less, did not take a step to kick him out of the country or arrest him or once they did take him into custody release him again. The information the u. S. Had was basically what the German Authorities shared with other countries and including the u. S. He tried to come here and one hope he would have been stopped. It was not like some u. S. Intelligence that only the intermans had would make a difference. Thats not the case. You know pete, you can remind our viewers that these watch list are subjected to a lot of scrutiny. Names that are not correct and does the idea that he was on a watch list here mean that he would have been apprehended had he come anywhere close to the United States . Well, apprehended are certainly questioned. Pete williams, thank you very much. Joining us now is our former new york state homeland adviser. There is a lot to i mpact here. Lets start with the basic of the fact that this guy was known to authorities and a few other countries. We got a video which i will show in a second here. The guy was for better or worse of a bad apple. We dont know how bad he was to start with. He was arrested and everybody knew about him. Why cannot you keep a guy. Why cannot you keep tabs on a guy like this . We have sophisticated intelligence network. Yet, they were not able to stop them. That means the fbi have to file. They may have their fingerprints or Something Like that. It does not mean there is three shifts of Police Officers watching. I think a lot of people dont appreciate is the amount of resources to conduct a 24hour surveillance on individuals. The fbi has said that about a thousand cases that they are looking back in the United States. In europe, much, much more. Particular after this string of attacks and what this complicates them is this whole migration from north africa. All these folks coming in and they have been vetted some and not for all. How are uhyou going to respond . There is a issue of and we know in brussels it is bad place and people dont have jobs and it is a hotbed of radicalization and apparently if you have nothing to do, being radicalized is Something Better than what you are doing. In the old days medium becoming gang members and there was limited of their scope of activities was. Now, when we radicalize young men this way, they become killers. You touched on a crucial point. This is apart of an asymmetrical war. This is about random act of violence intended to and still fear. Thats what the activities of these individuals are in support of the isis or alqaeda that says we have to take it to the west. It is important that you say that. It is important of their monotra. None of these guys are scholars. Not at all. What allows them, they have never been formally trained so their trade practice is really bad in terms of how they are transferring information or prepared for the attacks or carrying it out. Michael, good to talk to you. Former new york state adviser. Micha thank you. The syrians said it is now in completely control of aleppo. They were forced to withdraw after months of bombardment. This is key by russians and Syrian Government force and russian back syrian forces. That is russian victory in syria as it is an assad victory. Joining me now on the phone is bill neely. What is the significance of this Development Today . Good afternoon, ali, this is probably one of the most important days in the almost sixyear war in syria. Aleppo was syrias commercial center in this city. I has now fallen revolution that have shined for four years. The city has sailed. Rebel fighters have left and this afternoon marching in the final rebel area of eastern aleppo. It is a huge victory for president bashar alassad. It is a huge defeat for the rebels. It marks the end of the official revolution. It is important and cannot be you shou under stated. More than 34,000 people have left in the last few days. Among them will be rebels. They have really two choices. They can go to western aleppo, the government controls that area. It was not much of an option. The important thing about that, ali, is that there are two targets next for president bashar alassad. Isis had their syrian capitol and strongholds. The second target is the province itself. The unfortunate thing for all civilians they have gone out of the frying pans and into the fire. In a few months time they may find themselves under air strikes and shelling again. The retaking of aleppo is such a significant development. It is the beginning of the revolution that started almost 6 years ago. It is important for people to remember, damascus was the capitol of aleppo and syrias Biggest Issue and it is now a ghost town. Thank you very much for that, bill. Much more on Donald Trumps transition after this break. His former Campaign Manager with surprising comments of his vow to change the swamp. Well get reaction from andy carr when he joins us live. The north pole could be 50 degrees warmer than usual this weekend, you are going to florida . Cancel your trip, go to the north pole. The man donald trump picked continued on Climate Change, bill nye, the science guy everything on his thoughts today. Beyond is a Natural Pet Food that goes beyond assuming ingredients are safe. To knowing they are. Going beyond expectations. Because our pets deserve it. Beyond. Natural pet food. So the question is does donald trump still plan on draining the swamp . That depends on who you ask. You say you have been working on these issues, others might say you have been working in the swamp to use Donald Trumps words. I am told that he disclaims that. It was cute but he does not want to use anymore. Where does draining the swamp stacking up on the trumps camp . If you have to put them in a chronological order, draining the swamp it is down at the bottom. Good thing you did not vote for donald trump because hes going to drain the swamp. Donald trump tweeting this response to those interviews you just heard. Someone incorrectly stated that the phrase drain the swamp was not used by me. Actually, well always be trying to dts. Newt gingrich offerin offering suggestions that trump was not interested in taking on the washington establishment. I want to ro right turn thep a big booboo, he reminded me that he likes draining the swamp. I mischaracterized it the other day. He likes draining the swamp. Andy, it is good to see you. I think hes draining the swamp possibly and of some of the alligators of washington and replacing them with the crocodiles of wall street. I am not sure what Middle America had in mind when they thought somehow people are used to power and control are not going to be doing the same thing in washington. I heard you on cnn a little while ago. I was disappointed. You dont seem to be bothered by this. First of all, the president needs to have people around him and all have the courage to serve at the president s pleasure. They should actually speak truth of power and thats the way to help the president but they do so as pleasure. I look at donald trump is coming in as an outsider and hes doing things radically different than they have done in the past. Now, i dont know if you want to call it draining the swamp. He should have some guides that knows what it is like to live in the swamp and he will be living in the swamp of washington, d. C. So hes going to have some people around him that understands what it means to be there. Hes definitely doing things differently than they have done in the past. I just hope that the white house staff recognizes that they have responsibilities to help the responsibility to do the job. It is not i want to see portfolios these people have. Everyone cannot just be an adviser. That he have to have some portfolios. Lets talk with the people with jobs. Lets talk about Rex Tillerson and ross and kerri cone. Wall street or corporate america, do you think people cast the ballot thought thats going to happen . Well, they knew donald trump is going to do things differently. He has done things differently. He wants people to run them. Rex tillerson is a wonderful person. I am excited that he will be the secretary of state. And i think that he will offer a view that is very important for the president to hear and one thatll inform the president , educate the president because no one knows everything. Rex tillerson knows a lot. Let me ask you something specifically that may be should not change. You probably had one of the words in history of the chief of staff. When everybody has seen this picture, we got it there. There it is, you whispered to the president something and the camera focused on the president s face and you have given him such tragic information. That president was well read and knew what was going on. This president says hes like a smart guy, he does not need daily briefings where they tell them the same stuff over and over again. I think that he will come to realize that the daily briefings are not that redundant. They are relevant if the chief of staff is doing his job. Nothing that goes in the oval office that the chief of staff have not seen. I have great confidence in Reince Priebus. The president will be responsibility for making brutally tough decisions and meeting obligations that is bigger than anything the president elect trump could ever thought could be, thats to keep an oath to preserve and protect and defend the constitution of the United States. Thats an awesome job. What is whispered in president bushs ear, yes, he took office. When i whispered in his ear that a second plane hit the second tower and america was under attack. Thats when you realize that i have a constitutional responsibility to protect. You were so so so briefly in the president s ear. Which led me to believe that you understood that you did not have to provide a whole lot of context and details. When you told the president that, you had the confidence that he could understand the gravity of the situation. I assume that you had the confidence of the president bush was well read into the security concerns of the day. We are in a dangerous situation today well, we continue to be in a dangerous situation. I dont know if it is more dangerous, we are on a very dangerous world right now. President elect trump will come to recognize that because others around him will have to Pay Attention and theyll make sure that the president needs and gets the information that he needs to have. The one thing that is important for Reince Priebus to do is hes got to decide what information the president needs and what information the president may want and does not guilneed. Hes going to focus on getting the president s needs addressed first. Those are the countrys needs and the worlds needs and the worlds challenges. The president has responsibilities if he does not consume himself with the issues that are not important. Hes going to focus on those brutally tough issues because he should not be allowed to make an easy decision. As the man who had the president s ear from your mouth to the president elect trumps ear. Andy card, chief of staff of president bush. Do you support Donald Trumps plan for extreme vetting of immigrants seeking entry to the u. S. The pulse is live on www. Pulse. Msnbc. Com. You can weigh in on my twitter page. Hit me up at ali velshi, should i stay or go. Well be back in a little bit. Let me tell you of what happened earlier. In new york, a jet blue passenger was kicked off a flight departing jfk airport. It was after reportedly confron