Somebody disrespects our flag . To say, get that son of a off the field. I have a daughter. I do whatever i have to do to make sure she can look at her dad and be, like, hey, he tried to make a change. It was divisive. For him to use this platform to divide us more is not something i can stand for. If youre a multimillionaire who feels oppressed, you need a therapist, not a publicity stunt. They can do the free speech on their own time. He should apologize. Theyre not sobs. Theyre thoughtful, smart guys. The latest push to overhaul obamacare may be in Critical Condition again. Can only afford to lose two, and they already have. It is difficult for me to envision a scenario where i would end up voting for this bill. Republicans are attempting to sweeten the deal, offering a lastminute change to shift money in the bill to alaska and
maine. Politico reported that kushner has been in the white house and used a personal email account. There were fewer than 100 emails sent to this personal account. His lawyer confirmed yesterday, dozens of times to correspondents, like steve bannon, Reince Priebus. President trump is doubling down, tripling down on his comments about nfl players not standing during the national anthem. Mentioning nothing about puerto rico and the 3 Million People suffering there. The president tweeting, many people booed the players who kneeled yesterday, which was a small percentage. In total, these are fans who demanded respect for our flag. Adding, the issue of kneeling has nothing to do with race. It is about respect for our country, flag and national anthem. Nfl must respect this. President trump, thats wrong. Also tweeting, proud of nascar in its supporters and fans. They wont put up with disrespecting our country or flag. From nfl Spokes Mman To Form Press Secretary for bill clinton, quote, yesterday was an important day in the nfl. This is what real Locker Room Talk is. Tom brady did not go to the white house when the patriots were invited after they won, yet the president made no comment. Over the weekend, he attacked steph curry of the golden state warriors, who decided back in june not to go to the Celebratory Party with his teammates. His teammates who now decided theyre not going to the white house either. It caused such a stir that fellow Basketball Superstar lebron james tweeted, calling the president a bum. All of this after a wave of protests across the nfl took place yesterday during the anthem. More than 100 players kneeling in defiance. Others joining in a massive show of solidarity. With coaches and owners, even some team owners, who doe nate donated heavily, im talking in the millions, including the president s friend, robert kraft, and the redskins owner,
all following the fire storm the president set off on friday night. Wouldnt you love to see one of these nfl owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, just say, get that son of a bitch off the field right now. Hes fired. Hes fired collectively, we felt like we had to, you know, do something. Only a few times in a mans life where you have a chance to stand up for something you believe in and make a statement. Today, i thought that was the chance, and i took it. There are no sobs in this league. I supported donald trump. I sat back, when he asked me to introduce him at a rally, you know, in buffalo, i did that, but im reading these comments, and its appalling to me. I dont agree with it at all. I think that President Trump was absolutely right when he said that the players should stand for the national anthem. I disagree. They should be able to protest how they feel is necessary. I want to point out, the president called the nfl players
sons of bitches, yet when he referenced the protesters at the neonazi event back in charlottesville many, many fine people. Joining us now, live, former nfl Defensive End marvin washington, who played for the new york jets, 49ers and the Denver Broncos during his 11year career. Also, former Seattle Seahawks player and Army Green Beret nate boyer, who served multiple tours in iraq and afghanistan. Nate, marvin has the homecourt advantage so well start with you. You talked to colin kaepernick, into kneeling instead of sitting on the bench, as hes done for several weeks. Talk us through the argument that President Trump makes, that if you dont stand, youre standing against the United States of america. Yeah, first of all, i didnt talk him into it. That was a conversation that we make to the middle ground together. That was between him and me. We sat down for a couple hours, discussed our perspective and
definitely our feelings toward the anthem, the flag and our background that led us to feel that way. Kind of came to that decision together. But, like i said before and ill say again, i will always stand because of what it means to me. The men and women who lay down their lives for what that piece of cloth represents. However, that piece of cloth also represents everyones right in this country and the freedoms to express yourself how you feel. When youre not pleased with something, in our country, you have the ability to speak out against it or to take a knee against it or do something in protest in some way, as long as it is peaceful. Ill always support that. So i support the rights 100 . Marvin, just for historical perspective, when you played, you didnt have to stand. That was not something that players necessarily did. They didnt always come out for the national anthem. Some cases, they were in. Some cases, they didnt stand. Of course. It depends how the game went. I dont remember being out there for the national anthem. This is something thats come on ae ce ece recently. I think 2009 when the nfl paid the Department Of Defense to promote the Department Of Defense paid the nfl. The Department Of Defense paid the nfl. This is not about disrespecting the soldiers and flag. Rosa parks didnt sit down because she didnt like the transportation system. This is about civil rights. My dad is buried in a veteran cemetery, and he joined the service when he was 17 years old during world war ii. He didnt have his full rights back here at home. So this is not about me disrespecting the flag or whatever. It is about these players expressing their First Amendment right to Freedom Of Speech and freedom of expression. My dad and the veterans like him will fight for him to either kneel or stand. Heres something that puzzles me. Newt gingrich earlier today said
it is impossible for multimillionaires to be oppr s oppressed. If theyre feeling so oppressed, they need a shrink. Newt gingrich doesnt realize Abraham Lincoln didnt fight to free slaves because it was affecting him personally. Can you use your position to help those who dont have a voice . I think you should. Sports and politics have been around since the inception of time. Africanamerican players, since 1947, trying to integrate the game of basketbaeball. For him to say that, he acts like the owners own the players, when they own the team. I understand the players get paid a lot, but theyre making the owners a lot of money, also. So i dont believe that. For Newt Gingrich to say that, i think, is ridiculous. He needs to have empathy and sympathy for what people of color are going through in this country. Nate, i think Something Interesting that you said, that you have fought, youve been in afghanistan, a place where the
taliban do not allow any variance from the official line in terms of selfexpression. There are millions of People Living under the rule of isis that american soldiers are fighting right now. They will not allow any freedoms of expression of any sort. Tell me about your sense of the importance of the freedoms we have to protest peacefully. Yeah, i mean, thats what makes our country truly great and very special, you know. The anthem and that flag does not represent a person. It represents the entire nation. You know, when i was overseas fighting, the fact that i had to we had to put aside some of our differences and cultures and understand that, look, i may not relate to this person that im working with and im fighting alongside against terrorism, against hatred, but i can sit down and listen to them and understand that at the end of the day, they probably want the same things i do, as far as for their family and everything like that. And you have to be able to work
maybe steph curry could say, im not going to spend my time at a Celebratory Party for someone that doesnt clearly denounce racism. I agree with you. But i mean, if he comes at it with that attitude, like, look, ill come to the white house but i want to sit down and talk, i mean, thats an opportunity. If he gets told no, hes told no. At least its an attempt though. I dont know. I mean, im just im a huge fan of steph curry. Im a warriors fan, and he is an intelligent, young man. A lot of people follow him. I think that would be interesting to see what came of that. Thats all im saying. I totally understand where youre coming from. Im just saying steph curry is a leader, example of a father, husband, hard work pays off, is a tough guy to say, guess what, youre not invited anyway. Marvin, could you comment on this point that Steve Mnuchin made, that the players should, quote, do free speech on your own time . The last time i checked in the United States of america, whether youre at work you can do free speech wherever you are. Im unclear what doing free speech means. Ive never been in a scenario where if you speak respectful from a place of integrity, you cant speech your mind. Mnuchin is under investigation for mispolice station misplacement of federal funds. Its interesting coming from him. But people dont realize, the socially conscious athlete is what i grew up with. I grew up in the 60s and 70s. We had muhammad ali, jim brown, russell. I didnt look up to politicians. I looked up to sports stars. They can bring attention and focus to whatever issues are going on. Im glad were having this conversation right now. It needs to be had. Hopefully, it can lead to reform. Wh we put our hands up, its offensive. Kneel down, it is offensive. Ferguson has reform now in their
come back from the break. Plus, well explain how Americas Nuclear codes work and exactly how long itd take for President Trump to pull the trigger. Hi, im the internet you know whats difficult . Foreign minister threatened the north would shoot down any u. S. Bombers if necessary. This is important. U. S. Bombers flew as far north and as close to north korea as theyve done in this century. This happened this weekend. Joining us is nbc News White House correspondent kristen welker. What do you know . Reporter ali and steph, this war of words escalates. As you point out, speaking in new york, the north Korean Foreign minister said President Trump declared war over the weekend. Let me read you a tweet over the weeke weekend. Just heard Foreign Minister of north korea speak at u. N. If he echoes thoughts of little rocket man, they wont be around much longer. North koreas leader saying that those comments, his other fiery comments, clearly a declaration of war. Warning the International Community should clearly remember it was the u. S. That
declared war on north korea. Really extraordinary language that is coming out, not only of north korea, but from President Trump, as well. Of course, he gave that speech at the u. N. Last week and said that he was prepared to bring about north koreas total destruction if it didnt stop its nuclear provocations. Now, of course, those words were also met with tough actions. The ones that you talked about, that show of force, flying military bombers close to the north, but also, of course, the toughest round of sanctions that we have seen yet. North korea has threatened to test fire an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile into open air. If that happens, itll be the first time a country takes that type of step to test a Nuclear Weapon in open air since china did it back in 1980. So certainly an escalation here. The question is, how does this all end . President trump has an event here at the white house today, which will be focused on jobs. Undoubtedly, well get questions about this. Well be paying very close attention to that. Thank you. Theres a lot of news. The Trump Administration is grappling with Nuclear Issues on two fronts this morning. First, irans test launch of a new Ballistic Missile it says is capable of carrying nuclear warheads. Condemned by the united nations, the missile test comes less than a week after President Trump spoke before the General Assembly here in new york. Accusing iran of exporting violence, the white house faces an october 15th deadline to certify irans compliance with the 2015 nuclear deal to congress. The president has claimed iran is in violation of, quote, the spirit of the deal, but has issued the certification as required every three months. Meanwhile, the president S Newest Travel Ban includes north korea, part of a Ratcheting Up of tensions between kim jeong junes regime and the United States. The two leaders have hurt ehurl massive personal attacks at each other, including this, that took
place on friday. Little rocket man. He may be smart, he may be is that strategic and totally crazy, but no matter what he is, were going to handle it, folks. Believe me. This is what is stunning to me. Members of the administration and Trump Supporters would say, follow what he does, not what he says. What about when he says things that causes erratic countries like north korea to say, youve declared war on us. It is impossible to separate the idea he tweets and wants his tweets to be taken seriously. Sean spicer said consider it an official statement. He is tweeting things that are separate and apart from american policy as it regards north korea. When youre dealing with things on the fringes, thats fine. But this is a country with Nuclear Weaponry. We cant really be having these mixed messages. We were discussing this on friday. We said, wed like to be discussing the other policy, but he threatens via tweet. It would be irresponsible of us to ignore the tweets. Because weve been told, thats policy. How do members of the military how would a mother, if she had a son or a daughter posted in south korea. Posted in japan. This is serious stuff. Coming up, were going to talk looks like someone else has been emailing on private emails. Were going to be talking about that when we come back. Amazing. Jared kushner, after all that happened, the criticism, Remember Lock her up . Now Jared Kushner seems to be using private emails, even though he is a member of the administration. And were watching markets this morning. Remember Angela Merkel secured her fourth term over the weekend. The markets have been on a run. Facebook and some other social Media Companies are getting a lot of criticism. Stand by. You are watching velshi ru e ruhle live on msnbc. How do you chase what you love
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