Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Velshi And Ruhle 2018

Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Velshi And Ruhle 20180529

Where are those kids . Why dont we know where they are . President trump blamed democrats for supporting what he has described as lax immigration policies. But democrats say breaking up families is largely a result of the Trump Administrations zero tolerance policy for illegal border crossings. If you are smuggling a child, then we will prosecute you, and that child may be separated from you. If youre planning a starbucks run, go early. More than 8,000 locations will close this afternoon so employees can undergo racial bias training following the incident in philadelphia last month. We have an opportunity given the fact that we have stores in every community in america to begin a very important conversation. This is probably one of the most important transformational moments in the history of our company, and weve taken it seriously. This is just the beginning. We dont think this is a magic moment and were all together. Thats right. This is a beginning of a journey, and we have steps that will follow this. I see this as something thats woven into the fabric of how we operate as a company. Lots to cover today. We begin with International Confrontations for the United States on two fronts. China and north korea. The Trump Administration moving ahead with tough new trade measures on china. Again calling the countrys trade practices unfair. But could that complicate talks with north korea . There appears to be an all out effort to underway to revive the potentially historic summit between President Trump and kim jongun. President trump tweeted earlier today, quote, we have put a great Team Together for our talks with north korea. Meetings are currently taking place concerning summit and more. The vice chairman of north korea heading now to new york. Solid response to my letter. Thank you. The meetings the president referred to were taking place today between north and south korea and in singapore the site of the planned summit. Surely there is a lot going onto try and move the ball forward. We are joined from the white house. Also with us former Senior Adviser to the assistant secretary defense for asian and Security Affairs. Shes now the director of political and Security Affairs at the Asia Society Policy institute. Thats a mouthful. Hans, lets start with you. We have to go trade action against china. Were just hearing the president talk about that this morning with a 50 billion number. An i. P. That will hit china where it hurts. Weve learned the deadline. Its june 15th, or thats when theyll get specific about where the 25 tariffs, what it hits. We knew the talks were going on from different people in the administration. You hear different views on whether or not the trade war is on or off. It seemed like it was off last week. Now that the talks with north korea are back on, it seems like theyre moving forward putting a hard deadline for when theyre going to get serious and specific about what sport sort of sanctions and what companies it takes a bite of. Its after the summit. You can see the significance of Kellyanne Conways comments this morning. If the june 12th date slips and the north korean summit date slips, will they have the june 15th th date with the new sanctions get pushed back . When you look at whats happened across the whole of government, theres been a more aggressive posture toward china. Last week they disinvited the them from the pentagon military exercises. And over the weekend the u. S. Navy sailing a destroyer for what china claims is their waters what the u. S. Says is international waters. It seems theres more an aggressive posture, especially from the pentagon. Lindsey, whats your take with china being north koreas closest ally . Yeah. So i do think its interesting and telling that we have a north korean official coming over to the United States right now, and he is making a stop in beijing first. So china quite clearly, i think, is trying to leverage the north korea situation to its own advantage. The administration is overall trying to take a tougher line toward the chinese. But quite frankly, the question is always where is the president . And the president sort of flipflopping on where hes going to be, i think, undermining their overall effort to look tougher toward the chinese. Hans, the president said in his tweet he feels really good about the them that thats been put together. Talk to us about the meeting taking place in singapore thats being led on the u. S. Side by joe hagan and talk about the meeting happening in the dms right now. Joe hagan is a logistics master at the white house. The same position he had during the bush administration. He knows logistics and summits. Thats the technical meeting. The dmz is more strategic. You have the former u. S. Ambassador to south korea. Also currently the envoy to the philippines doing double duty. A korean speaker. Hes joined by an official who is on the National Security team. And then Randall Shriver is the assistant secretary of state for east Asian Affairs coming over of defense, coming over from the pentagon. Once again, i think its significant. Theres a pentagon official heading to north korea trying to talk to them and figure out what the contours of this summit are going to be, and it seems like from some reporting theyre trying to figure out what the final statements are going to be. So in a lot of ways the negotiation taking place right now could be more important than what we get from the president who especially if they do have final statements that have already been prenegotiated. A lot has happened from last week until this week. Kellyanne conway is not wrong in saying that its been historic. But if the United States and north korea are not in agreement on what the definition of denuclearization is, is all of this for not . Yeah. I think there are a lot of questions right now. It is good that you have an extremely experienced team who is out talking in north korea right now. But theres still a huge gap between the United States and north korea. And whether you can close that in the time that we have, i think, is a big question mark. I mean, in an ideal world this is why you do these types of negotiations behind closed doors, and you start from the bottom up. You give people the time they need to actually address those types of cleavages. What you have here is a president pushing pretty hard for this sort of quick win. And quick wins are not the way really to get the type of agreement we need in north korea. Quick win. Hard to say youll get a quick win on a situation this complicated. Hans, lindsey, thank you so much. All right. When we come back, we have to talk starbucks making a bold move today after this video of two black men being arrested in one of their stores went viral. Its closing thousands of Stores Across the country. Thats 175,000 employees. Their goal to make the employees more aware of biases when dealing with customers. Heres a question. What will happen after today . And this morning we are certainly watching markets for you. After the dow dropped more than 200 points at the open, there you go. Were now down almost 30 0 points. This all stems from italy. Political turmoil in italy as more leaders and government are taking a populist bent sort of against the euro zone and the euro, it questions the strength of the euro. Think about this. European nations normally acting and speaking as one. Italy is the third biggest economy in europe. What if their government is suddenly saying we want to go at this on our own . This is bills yard. And bill has a noweeds, not in my yard policy. But with scotts turf builder weed feed, bill has nothing to worry about. It kills weeds and greens grass, guaranteed. This is a scotts yard. Welcome back. Starbucks the worlds biggest coffee chain will close this afternoon for mandatory racial sensitivity training. Its in response to this viral video showing Philadelphia Police arresting two black men inside the starbucks. It all began last month when the store manager called police after the men waited for a business associate and did not make any purchases. The manager accused the men of trespassing when Law Enforcement arrived, the when reportedly refused to leave and were escorted out in handcuffs. Following the incident, there was a settlement with the city of philadelphia. They accepted a symbolic payment of 1 and asked the city to set up a Grant Program for students. Starbucks announced theyll be closing some 8,000 stores containing more than 175,000 employees for racial bias training. That means a loss of about 12 million in revenue. The Company Appears undeterred. They released a portion of the video used in todays training which indicates a frank conversation about racial bias. 5 29 is an opportunity to renew our commitment to the third place. Because we understand that racial and systemic bias have many causes, sources, and ways of showing up within each of us. And in our communities. This morning executive chairman Howard Schultz says the company is not going to stop there. Its just the beginning. What weve said to our board and shareholders is we are deeply committed to making this part of everything we do. We hire 100,000 new people a year. This is part of the training. Weve going to globalize this. With me now Melissa Depino who witnessed and recorded the incident. An opinion writer for the Washington Post who interviewed the starbucks executive chairman, and howard ross, author of everyday bias. Melissa, you witnessed the incident, and starbucks did not take the response, listen, maybe were a business, were not a public park. If you want to sit in our store, you have to buy something. They took quite the opposite. Howard schultz has take thn head on. Theyre doing this bias training today, training 175,000 people, and schultz says its not just today. This is just the beginning. Do you believe thats a reasonable response as someone who was in the starbucks itself . I believe it is a reasonable response. Im cautiously optimistic about what starbucks is doing, but they have a huge opportunity here as a global brand to set an example for what other corporations in america should be doing. So what theyre doing to do is great, but its really just a start. Jonathan, you, i mentioned earlier, spoke to Howard Schultz last week. In your piece you write that he had Real Relationships with African Americans he could call upon after the philadelphia arrests. Spoke volumes about schultz and his commitment to seriously addressing the problem. In other words, it sounds like you believe hes sincere in this fight. I believe hes absolutely sincere. When the philadelphia arrests happened, i started my own sort of internal countdown clock to see how fast how long it would take for starbucks and or hour schultz to announce something, say something, do something, and it was in no time. When i talked to Howard Schultz, he said he within 48 hours had decided that what was going to happen today was going to happen. But it was the people he reached out to in those 48 hours that spoke volumes to me. He told me the first person he reached out to was brian stevenson. Most of the country doesnt know brian stephenson, but hes renowned in the world of racial justice, and justice in general. Hes the head of the equal Justice Initiative head quartered in montgomery, alabama where the lynching memorial was opened last month. This is a very serious person. He also talked to Heather Mcgee from demos, anna debeer smith the play right and actress. The head of the ncaap legal and Defense Education Fund who also awarded Howard Schultz the National Justice award last year. I know that because i was the em see of that event. Thats why i knew given the speech he gave that night in november, that Howard Schultz would do something significant when the philadelphia arrests happened. Jonathan, in some sort of perverse way, is there a Silver Lining that this incident happened in a starbucks . A company run by Howard Schultz, someone who will truly take this seriously and try to move the needle . Yes. I think its two things. Its Howard Schultz the man. He believes this to his core. But also i think its starbucks the company, and what they were trying to do. As you played in the video, i believe it was melody hopson, another person, a call also on the board, she said, she talked about the third place. Starbucks centers around this notion that their company, their outlets are supposed to be that place between home and work. And a place of community, of gathering. And so when you have a person like Howard Schultz and a company with this modelling, this third place model, it was incumbent upon starbucks to do Something Like this. And melody hopsbson saying w want starbucks to be a place between home and work. Its not black and white, you have to purchase a coffee or snack. Help us understand what implicit bias is. For those who dont necessarily experience it, its pretty easy to discount. Yeah. Absolutely, stephanie. I think one of the things we have to realize is that we sometimes misunderstood some of the concepts because of the construct we put them in in our plit solitical society and the. Its a mental function weve all experienced and experience every day. We see things out there in front of us, and we make very quick assessments with our brains as to whether this thing is safe or unsafe. Positive or negative. Valuable or not valuable. And we do this in split seconds. Much faster than we can realize were doing it. At this point we have technology, particularly Computer Technology that allows us to track human responses so quickly that we can see how they play out. The same thing that has our watchers walking into a party by themselves or a meeting by themselves and quickly scan the room and decide whos the person id rather sit next to is the same process we use to filter out other things in our life on a daily basis. How challenging sit to take this on . Implicit racial bias requires thoughtfulness and time for people to open their hearts and minds. This is at a time when the country is angry and when were encouraging people when you see something, say something. So jonathan, how do we marry the two at this time of heightened tension to tell people to be more thoughtful about their actions and reactions . This is a conversation that must be ongoing. It is not one that one sort of fourhour afternoon session can change you or change people. I think once people know that such a thing exists, that subconscious bias exists, they then have to take the next step to recognize how that works itself in their own lives to point it out to other people who might not realize it. The enbeauty of today and what starbucks is doing, its teaching its employees or the partners as they call them, teaching their partners how to look out for these things and be sensitive to these things and keep the conversation going from today on out. I think that we as americans altogether must also do the same thing. Today is not a silver bullet. Its the start it should be the start or even the continuation of a conversation that this country has been having much more seriously, i think, since maybe in the last five years or so. We got to get out of our corners and not be afraid of these conversations. Again, i want to thank melissa. Melissa, its your work, you recording this, and trying to raise this issue to the country that has made it so impactful. Thank you so much. Jonathan, howard, really important day, not just for the 175,000 people who work in starbucks who are going the get the training and go home and talk about it. Its an important moment for the country. We have to keep this going on, and you can keep talking about it tonight when you join msnbc for a town hall called everyday racism in america. Live from philadelphia. Thats at 9 00 p. M. Eastern right here on msnbc. Controversy growing over the Trump Administrations treatment of Migrant Children. Babies, some say, are being ripped from their mothers while others apparently are being lost in the system. Were going to dispel the myths around the issues and whats being done to fight the policy. And information surrounding ivanka trump. Her company scored seven new trademarks in kmie china this month for some of their products. It happened around the same time President Trump promised to help stop Chinese Telecom company zte from going under. Times reports its probably a coincidence. And remember, ivanka trump has stepped back from management of her brand, but she still has a massive stake in the business. Im going to talk to you about this. In a statement the president of the ivanka trump band said the brand has filed updated and rigorously protected the International Trademarks over the past several years in the normal course of business, especially in regions where Trademark Infringement is rampant. We have recently seen a surge in trademark filings by unrelated third parties trying to capitalize on the name. Its our responsibility to diligently defend our trademark. Shes trying to do her job running a lifestyle brand with the name sake, the first daughter and Senio

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