Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Velshi And Ruhle 2018

MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Velshi And Ruhle July 24, 2018 15:00:00

Unprecedented step further in what critics call an effort to is distract the white house now threatening to revoke security clearance from six former Top National Security officials, all of whom are fierce critics of trumps actions or inactions. These officials have served both democrats and republicans and have decades of experience in intelligence, law or diplomacy. For context, the heads of the Intelligence Agencies usually keep the Security Clearances unless theres reason to revoke them. It allows them mpay attentio to this it allows them to speak openly about matter the. They keep the clearance so if the Current Administration needs some advice or help, they can talk to them. I want to point out something. Sarah sanders was very proud to get up and change the topic because she didnt want to talk about the president s walkback, disaster in helsinki, all the messes. Certainly didnt want to talk about migrant children. But the people she listed, so proud they want to revehicle the clearanc revoke the clearance, two of them dont have clearance. If you want to pick a fight. Do your homework. This is not actually a policy change. It would be one thing if you said everyone. I want to make that point again. Its one thing when you say rand paul. Rand paul wanted a policy change. The president just picked a handful of people who he doesnt like and said were talking your clearances, no the everybody. Rand paul was making a recent argument. Youve got millions out there with clearance. They could make a mistake. Maybe there should be a cooling off period. Before theyre working for private companies or speaking to the media. Because what if President Trump took that perverted it into heres six people who have smack talked me or gone after rush. Lets pull their clearance. Lets take a closer look. Bush, clinton and george w. Clapper called the threat to take away clearance quote petty. James comey, President Obama nominated him as fbi director and he served until President Trump fired him over the russia investigation. Previously comey served as Deputy Attorney general under president george w. Bush. Threat is not much of a threat 25 at all. Andrew mick kab. Say that one more time. No more clearance. Just to say it. For sar he doesnt have experience. Andrew mick k andrew mccabe. James comey nominated him as fbi director in 2016. Attorney general Jeff Sessions fired him just two days before that. I think its es importance to remember john mccain, and see the Attorney General there laughing, its a little bit troubling. Because the Attorney General should be the person that is the rule of law. They are the person that is not part tis san and advancing justice around the country. So its pretty discouraging to see that. This just meets a pattern for the Trump Administration, which essentially everything seen through a partisan lens. I think its interesting with these former officials or in this case, with the Attorney General, i think americans constituents expect more of the elected leaders and of the leaders that are representing these institutions. It only further erodes the faith and confidence. Malcolm, if you look back at the last two weeks and things that have happened, some of which are of remarkable consequence, whether its helsinki or the weird walk back or insults to the nato allies or calling european foes. This doesnt rise to that level. A tweet yesterday we should not move on from or stop thinking about how significant it is that after helsinki and the walkbacks, donald trump tweeted it was a hoax that russia interfered with the election, a spit in the eye of his intelligence community. Donald trumps had a bad two weeks. This is really just a distraction. It sort of doesnt have longterm consequences. Yeah. Its a distraction. About a year ago, when john brennan and jim clapper were making comments related to the flynn investigation, there was a lot of rumors back then they were talking about, taking their clearances or even having them arrested. This is just internal talk. Its like that scene in good fellas where theyre all sitting around the Italian Restaurant slapping each other on the back and thinking up horrible things they can do to people. Thats the Trump Administration when they do these attacks personally. They need to get the heat off of them over what happened in helsinki. Even though Donald Trumps base thinks its awesome, the rest of the country thinks its awful. Taking that focus off saying these people could divulge classified information. Donald trump divulged classified information. In the oval office. There you have it. I want to point something out. During the campaign i interviewed richard branson, he was talking about the first time he met donald trump. He said what struck them, he was obsessed with talking about four or five individuals who he wanted to seek revenge upon and they were people he went to during one of his four or five bankruptcies to ask bail the out and they turned him down. He was laser beam focussed on seeking revenge on them. It feels like were back in that lane. Clint, as whether he would revoke President Obama or joe bidens clearances, the Press Secretary they were not on the list at this point. If that happens, what message would that send . Totally erodes the institutions. Bigger message is what does it send inside the Intelligence Agency and Law Enforcement community. When i hear this, what i think, if i was working in the government im basically being told unless i play to the president and tell him what he wants to hear im not going to be heard and in fact may be punished. We saw this going back to alternative intelligence processes back during the war on iraq. We dont want this insulation. We want them to be able to provide the opinion of whats best for the country. Looking at President Obama or Vice President biden, all have the clearance to come back and talk about issues they were involved with personally so provide perspective. They can hear information, updated inputs about what might be going on in the world currently that theyre not aware of so they can help inform the current leadership. I think with all of these senior executives, for them, the clearance process ultimately helps the government more than it helps them personally. Im pretty upset to watch this sort of partisan play out. It could have detrimental effects. Many of these people were involved in iran negotiations going back decades. Wouldnt we want them to tell us what the Thought Process was. I think thats good for all americans. I hope this sort of partisan battle is there for the day and not forever. I think back a minute ago in my head. Jeff sessions laughing as they chanted lock her up. Thats the Attorney General. The Benghazi Investigation took over four years, how many indictments . Zero. Email investigation two years, Robert Mueller special investigation at this point has 35 known indictments and plea deals. 35. Lock her up. What does that mean . Unbelievable. Thanks very much. All right. White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee sanders says americas intel chiefs are nonetizing. And we are looking ahead to the midterms which could mark an historic turning point. Right now, The State Of Nevada is poised to become the first state with a female majority in its legislature. At least eight other states have also have a shot at reaching or passing the 50 mark in november. There you go, government. Maybe youre watching velshi ruhle. Even though i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. So if theres a better treatment than warfarin, im up for that. Eliquis. Eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. 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He has a stake in all his companies, meaning just because hes not running things doesnt mean hes not profiting. He has spent 174 days at a trumowned resident since taking office. Staying at his properties is not like george w. Bush staying at the texas ranch. This cost the taxpayers big bucks. Secret service has to pay for room and board. U. S. A. Today reports Spending Money on Golf Carts Protecting the president at the properties. In fact, in his scotland resort i ahead of the putin summit, taxpayers picked up the 77,000 tab. Thats more money than many teachers make in some states. Back at maralago, the president s club doubled its Membership Fee to to 200 grand. Its not just trump hotels. The government of qatar bought a million apartment. And in trump tower here on fifth avenue, chinas largest state owned bank rents a 2 million a year space for the Biggest Office in the United States. On sale at the Shenandoah National park visitor center, trump wine. Jared kushner and his wife who both took positions in the white house brought in anywhere between 82 million and 222 million last year, according to the disclosures, eyong ivanka p in. Much of jareds ivanka got a nice little boost from counsellor to the president Kellyanne Conway telling fox viewers go buy her stuff. A big moneytizatiomoneytization. I need to remind you when the trump family did an interview on 60 minutes that nite ivankas own employees sent out an email telling us where we could get her bracelet. Please, sarah sanders, gag me with a spoon on this. Joining us john john harwood. Before the inauguration, President Trump said he would donate proceeds to the United States treasury. How closely is this tracking . Well, i dont know how closely theyre tracking it. They sayer theyre going to donate the profits in 2017, they did. 150,000. But donald trump, remember, reported 400 million in income. More than 400 million in 2017 and more than 40 million at the trump hotel in washington where he said his profits in foreign business was just 150,000. Okay. At worst, its a conflict of interest, best, bad optics, the white house continues to say, well ivanka is not taking salary. Great. You can blow your nose with the 130 grand in salary. We havent even mentioned the clearances theyve got, from china, the approvals. Para trademarks. Ivanka got 13. Coincidentally she had dinner 1 sitting next to xi. He has a series of Income Stream that is cos that come in. Chinas largest bank renting space. So does the pentagon. Youve got secret Service Following him everywhere, Spending Money at the clubs that he owns, at maralago, golf courses, and this is extraordinary because weve had wet wealthy president s before but president s have put their assets in blind trusts so they removed a potential conflict between the private profit and the public interest, and donald trump simply hasnt done that. So you had a chance to talk to Elizabeth Warren, the senator from massachusetts. What does she have to say about this . We didnt talk specifically about Donald Trumps president ial money making. But we did talk about problems of capitalism, and elizabeth warren is a big advocate for regulations on wall street, on business, and i asked her if she recognizes how polarizing that makes her within the business community. John, good to see you as always. I get there are a lot of folks who like having the power and the riches they have. They like being able to tweak their little pinky and the United States government does just what they want. But my view on that is dont call me the polarizing figure, theyre the one that is want to take advantage. You dont think capitalists are bad people. Im a capitalist. Come on. I believe in markets. I dont believe in theft. I dont believe in cheating. So, john, thats not the Elizabeth Warren people often think she is. They think she is a anticapitalism, antibusiness and antibanks. It sounds like we didnt know or shes turning over a new leaf. Part of the problem is that people hear what they want to hear. President obama said much the same thing and people thought he was viciously antibusiness. We have a ix m tmixed economy. Obama like bwarren favors. Its not capitalism or soe socialism. Its capitalism with what kind of rules. Thank you for joining us. The russia investigation heating up on several fronts. Now trumps attorney, Rudy Giuliani says the president will talk to Special Council Rob Mueller if there are no obstruction questions. I dont understand how he thinks he can make that type of requirement. Why that could be so tricky. Well break down his many ties to russia. You are watching velshi and ruhl ruhle. Sore mouth, abnormalities in liver blood tests, diarrhea, Hair Thinning or loss, vomiting, rash, and loss of appetite. Alice calls it her new normal because a lot has changed, but a lot hasnt. Ask your doctor about ibrance. The 1 prescribed fdaapproved oral Combination Treatment for hr her2 mbc. Court. Mr. Trump called the investigation in russian attacks on the president ial election a witch hunt and totally discredited but the so called witch hunt has produced dozens of indictments. Joining us now ken. Give us the latest. In court yesterday, not in one of his what was it 5,000 suits but in a green jump suit. In a green jailhouse jump suit. Trial was delayed because the new lawyers had been given tens of thousands of documents they hadnt had a chance to review. Judge was concerned about an appeal issue. Jury was told to come back in a week. Trump white house has been pore t portraying this as something in the past. But actually, what this trial is likely to show is that Paul Manafort had been entwined with russian interest for year, came deeply in debt to these. And monetizing his services. Raising the question of whether he was open to collusion with russia. Ken, on twitter, the president said he quote, gave up nothing in helsinki and merely talked about future benefits for russia and the United States with Vladimir Putin. What do you make of that . First of all, he went out in public and sided with the russian spy master over his own intelligence community. Damage will be felt for years to come. But the other issue here is we still dont know what deals were cut inside that room. In fact, dan coats, the director of National Intelligence says he doesnt know. And the russians are saying that there was an agreement on syria. Thats really crucial. Question is what is that agreement . Is iran going to with draw . We just dont know and waiting for donald trump to tell us what he agreed to. Walk us through. The president is calling the investigation a hoax. Sarah sanders is trying to clear it up saying he was referring to the campaign. But he wasnt. So, again, its a black eye contradicting our National Intelligence. We saw dan coats over the weekend, he was apologizing for being stunned when Andrea Mitchell told him putin was coming to the white house. What does this do to the position dan coats and the rest of the leaders of the Intelligence Agency do . It really undermines them. Particularly coming after the statements he made in helsinki and this hoax thing puts him back. Those officials were in Aspen Reiterating that russia did in fact interfere. Donald trump has been briefed on intelligence far more detailed on this than weve seen in the public. He is either being willfully fwlien blind or deeply cynical. He doesnt consume, but the bottom line hes been president for a long time. He gets the briefings and generally knows what the gist is. Of the either hes not absorbing it or ignoring it. Thanks very much. I used that word Friday Night Playi playing scrable. Coming up next. A shocking new court fil

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