Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Velshi And Ruhle 2019

MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Velshi And Ruhle June 6, 2019

Dawn. We know that the Road Conditions seemed to be just fine. We believe that there have been as many as 20 or more troops in what was described as a personnel carrier. A truck with a cab in the front and then an area in the back where there are troops who are sitting. And the investigators will question, were there too many people in the back . Too many troops in the back . We know that one cadet died. We know there were injuries to as many as 20 other troops who were there. Back and neck injuries were some of the earlier reports. Again, a lot of detail is still missing from all this. We dont know what caused this. This personnel carrier that were looking at here, or tactical vehicle, to have flipped of we dont know if there was a weather condition issue or the speed of the vehicle. We dont know what type of training they were doing but of course the training there can be very rigorous and intense. It is meant to simulate warfare and combat. You can see it is a very rugged part of new york state which is why west point is there. And there are steep hills and it is a very dense terrain. It could be something as simple as a vehicle accident. However tragically fatal it is. Or it could have been they were doing something more intense. Those are, of course, the questions we hope will be answered when the officials come forward. Do we have details yet, were looking at the vehicle flipped on to its roof. This is an aerial shot. Youre not looking through trees from ground level. This is from above. Do we have any sense of how many people were in that vehicle . We know there were 20 injured and we bloe one who has died. Do we know anything about the capacity of this vehicle . I dont know about the capacity of it. We believe there were maybe as many as two dozen troops aboard. Soldiers who were trainers and some cadets. This Training Camp is a summer camp. It is where the troops go. As i understand it, these are usually cadets in their second year of training. They spend the summer there. It is part of the right of passage and all this is just a very grim reminder of the hard work that troops do day in and day out. Even in peace time. The sacrifices they and their families make in something as apparently what could be a simple traffic accident. Thats the thing. It seems benign to us. Weve reported on accidents that happen on bases and it is jarring. You dont think about these things. The training that these soldiers have to go through is rigorous and dangerous. They dont train them for nothing. They train them in hard circumstances. I dont have a recollection of a lot of accidents at west point. I dont either. But i know there are a lot of accidents with the military. There are all sorts of accidents involving vehicles, aircraft. Accidents do happen. Because again, it is an intense environment. These are troops training to go to war. So the training is very serious. It is meant to simulate the intensity, emotional, physical, stress and strain. And to some degree, the danger. We forget that in combat, in dangerous situations, a lot of people are killed because of the dangerous situations. Not just under enemy fire. We dont have a lot but we are expecting a press conference from officials at west point. Ron and i will listen to that very closely. Well bring that to you live when it happens. Thank you. You can see theyre assembling, getting ready for the press conference. Were looking for a lot of detail. What we understand is at least one person has died and 20 others are injured. This includes cadets and soldiers who were involved in the training. Well stay with that story and come back to it shortly. President trumps trade wars taking center stage even on ddated. Trade talks will continue between the Trump Administration and mexican officials at the white house. This morning the president discussed tariffs. Casting a shadow over his trade trip to normandy. Additional tariffs in china . Well, you mean, when am i going to put the extra 325 billion worth of tariffs . I will make that decision over the next two weeks. Probably right after the g20. One way or the other ill make that decision. After the g20. What must mexico do . What can they do to stem this massive thai . 140,000 people in may . When youre the piggy bank, they deceive you, tariffs are a beautiful thing. It is a beautiful word if you know how to use them properly. Republicans should love what im doing. Tariffs are a beautiful thing. Mitch mcconnell told white house officials he should hold off imposing tariffs on mexico until making the argument to gop leaders. The first tariffs on mexican imports is set to take effect on monday. Joining me from limerick, ireland. Whats the likely outcome here . It does seem a little strange that theyre not on the same page or they havent even coordinated on talking points . Reporter if past is present, Senate Republican theres capitulate to the president. Weve seen it so many times. The president bending them to his will. I dont think it is likely that it will come off his position. We heard from him twice today. The first time he seemed to be insulting Senate Republicans saying they didnt understand the beauty of tariffs. And then later in that interview with fox news, the president said republicans should love his approach. The president said hes taking calls from Senate Republicans. So hes taking incoming and the president of the United States doesnt seem likely to compromise. He believes in tariffs. It is very difficult to see how he can have a meeting in person with Senate Republicans before that deadline comes and passes on monday. The talks are expected as we know within an hour or so between mexican officials and the Trump Administration. Again, we have no sense really about what the mexican officials seemed somewhat positive about the fact they can get something done by monday. But we dont know whats on the table and whats not. Well, talking to the president , he wants to see the numbers of migrants come down. So there can be a lot of thresholds as you reach that goal on what you do to the criminal gangs, what sort of penalties. The president wants to see one thing. The numbers come down. Thats what hes focused on and frustrated about. You saw it play out at the same time the president has been looking for unique ways. Hes been somewhat stymied in building the wall and bringing the numbers down. You see the video. The grainy images of migrants trying to cross the border. That affects the president. It bothers him. What he wants to see is the numbers come down. I would caution on all this. The president of the past criticized. He threatened to shut down the border. And then he says, mexico is doing a much better job. Hes the arbiter on all of this. Thats exactly the point. He decides when mexico is doing a good job and when theyre doing nothing and well find out once they conclude their talks. Thank you. Coming up later, what these potential tariffs on mexico mean for the price of products you buy every day. Ill break that down for you. Nancy pelosi told senior democrats this week that she wants to see President Trump, quote, in prison rather than impeach him. Politico reports citing unnamed sources that pelosi made the comment when house judiciary chairman jerry nadler pushed the speaker to launch an impeachment inquiry. She said she wants to see President Trump defeat in 2020 and then prosecuted for his alleged crimes. We should note, nbc news has not confirmed this report. Politico did not characterize the full context or tone of pelosis reported comments. Joining me, contributor jonathan capehart. The speaker reportedly wants to see trump in prison. This is the kind of stuff that trump seems to take very personally and it does seem to affect him. Is nancy pelosi making a deliberate decision that she has pressure from part of her party or shes going to sacrifice the relationship, the working relationship she has with donald trump by saying this . Well, working relationship, we must take that with a grain of salt. Whether the president will take umbrage with what nancy pelosi says as we long now know, the president takes umbrage with anything said about him that isnt nice. So those caveats being put out there, i think again, politico is reporting this. You have already acknowledged nbc news has not been able to confirm how this conversation went. But the idea that there are people who are reporting from that meeting that the speaker said she would like to see the president in jail. It is sort of, keeping in line with what ive been hearing, the reporting that ive been doing. There is a lot of pressure within the caucus as we all know. I think based on two fronts. One, clearly theres anger at the president and what hes done and his policies. But also anger at what has been laid out in the mueller report. The ten instances of possible obstruction, leave aside the interference of the russians in the 2016 election. I think what is driving a lot, at least within the democratic caucus, is a feeling that they have a constitutional duty to be not only a check and ballot president. A check and pal on the executive. But to stand up for the rule of law. So you have a restive base coming up against Committee Leadership and a speaker who are looking to be methodical and deliberate and very careful about how they go about this. Both in terms of building up public support, educating the public about what is going on. You and i both know. Most people have not even read the mueller report. Most may never read the mueller report. And so in order for impeachment to really push forward, people have to be educated. I think steve at the mad over blog has the best take of any that ive read. I agree with him that he is supposing that impeachment is one of those things where you can impeach the president in the house. Because the senate is run by Mitch Mcconnell, leader of the republicans, removal of the president wont happen. He remains in office. If indeed Speaker Pelosi said to her caucus, she would rather see President Trump in jail, what that means is, after he leaves office, from their perspective, preferably january 20th, 2021, he is open to legal liability and could be put in jail for crimes by prosecutors. And that is the ultimate punishment. The president was asked about former special Counsel Robert Mueller testifying on fox news. Lets just listen to this together. He made such a fool out of himself the last time. What people dont report is the letter he had to do to straighten out his testimony. His testimony was wrong. But nancy pelosi, i call her nervous nancy. She doesnt talk about it. Nancy pelosi is a disaster. Okay . Shes a disaster. And let her do what she wants. You know what . I think theyre in big trouble. A little hard to follow. Hes talking about mueller and his testimony being wrong. Thats why he had to write a letter. Do you make any sense of that . No. I could not make any sense of that at all. It is the president. Lets keep in mind that interview he gave with laura ingram was before he gave his speech commemorating the normandy invasion. The very stately speech that he gave. But it is typical President Trump. Calling people names. Degrading and belittling people. And what adds to sort of the horror of what the president was saying is what was in the background as he said it . Those white crosses on that pristine green lawn where the bodies of american soldiers who helped liberate france, liberate europe, and saved the world from naziism, are buried, laid to rest. Hallowed ground. Yet the president used that location and that time to attack his political enemies. Given the opportunity to do the same to comment on what is going on back in the states with andrea mitchell, Speaker Pelosi demured and said, no. This is not the time and place for that. If only the president had taken that same tact. Always good to talk to you. Thank you. All right. Newly leaked documents at trumps d. C. Hotel. Foreign leaders, lobbyists and exiles who spent thousands of dollars to stay at the president s hotels. Details on the guests, the stays, which countries theyre from and the ethical implications. Ns were oscar mayer deli fresh and you may know us from. Your very first sandwich, your mammoth masterpiece. And. Whatever this was. 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According to the post, an iraqi businessman pivotal in the leadup to the iraq war stayed in a suite at President Trumps hotel in washington, d. C. For 26 nights in 2018. This businessman reportedly once had aspirations to be iraqs president , has correspond with Michael Bolten and mike pompeo about those seeking to overthrow the iranian government. The cost of the stay ranges in the tens of thousands of dollars. Before his stay, two former thai prime ministers exiled from the country stayed at the hotel at least one night. These latest episodes are further examples of the shaky mix of personal business and the potential for foreign interests that cultivate perceived favor within the Trump Administration. The Washington Post previously report on a pr firm that lobbied for saudi arabia booking an estimated 500 nights at the president s d. C. Hotel three months after the 2016 election, and as the merger efforts would sprint, wait on government approval, execs from tmobile booked 52 nights. The executive, the ceo of the company hanging around in the lobby with a bright tmobile sweatshirt on. This of course, enriched the president and his family and cast suspicion with watch dogs over government policy toward these high level customers. I want to bring in the report here dug all this up. Of course there is the perception that people will try to gain flufl what we have trouble with, what the constitution foresees, how to prove that there is also benefit that flows from doing business with things that enrich government officials. How do we connect the two in. In this case, youre right. It is a difficult thing to connect. The people like tmobile, theyre people who want something very badly from Trumps Administration and they spend a lot of money on trumps properties. They say the first is totally disconnect from the second one. They just happened to stay at the trump hotel because they liked the hotel. But certainly, it raises a lot of questions about what impact. Whatever their intention, what impact those stays and that money could have on Decision Making within the Trump Administration. There was word early in the administration that the president s properties would donate proceeds from foreign governments or individuals to the u. S. Treasury. There was concern that it would be difficult to separate those things out and figure it out. Particularly when youre dealing with korvis, the company you reported on, which is a lobbyist for foreign governments. Has there been any effort to separate it out and pay money to the treasury . We know the Trump Organization has made two donations from 2017 to 2018 to the treasury. It totals about 300,000. The question is what does that represent . They havent said much of anything about how those numbers are calculated. They say this is profit derive from business foreign governments directly. But how they calculate profit. What happens if they spend money a private trump company. The number that matters more, how much in total foreign governments have spend, we dont know. In this case, this guy, the sheikh, he is not a foreign official of the he would like to be president of iraq but hes not right now. They still counted his payments under that foreign patronage policy. We dont know how they apply that policy. It seems to be sort of haphazard. All right. Thank you very much from the Washington Post. I want to bring in joyce vance. Weve discussed for a long time how problematic this kind of business is. Other than the emoluments chaus which is being evoked by conservative attorneys general in court, what else can be done to combat this potential conflict . This is an interesting situation. Jimmy carter famously put his peanut farm into a blind trust to avoid any suggestion that he might ever implement a policy would benefit himself financially. Of course, that doesnt seem to be a concern for this president. Thats the issue here with the emoluments clause. And outside of some sort of an outright bribe, somebody staying in exchange for a policy decision by the president , which there is no evidence of. It is unlikely there is a federal crime. But what there is here is a clear violation of the oath that the president swore. When he took the oath of office, he promised to uphold the constitution. The emolument clauses, both foreign and domestic, are a part of that constitution. So this conduct would seem to be clearly contrary. A lot of americans didnt know anything about this before it came up. Are the test thats weve seen so far evidence the clause needs to be looked at and that it doesnt have teeth in it . Or do we need to let the courts decide . There are two lawsuits moving forward. Like all lawsuits they seem to move at a glacial pace. One is in maryland. One is in the district of columbia. And the district of columbia case, the judge has rejected this very narrow reading of the emolume

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