Epstein will stay in custody as prosecutors continue to build their case against him. Plus, more. The hard working americans, saying that ignorance is pervasive in many parts of this country. A crowd chants, send her back, during a trump rally when he starts to attack a member of the squad yet again. Well begin this afternoon with new details in the Campaign Finance violations case that put former trump lawyer and fixer, the guy who is currently in jail, myrickichael cohen in pri. That included hush money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels. Now we know the fbi believed the president , himself, donald trump, was involved. Search warrants related to a 2018 raid of Michael Cohens home and Office Released today by the Southern District of new york describe a series of calls back in october of 2016 between trump, cohen, and former White House Communications director hope hicks. That resulted in cohen agreeing to make an Illegal Campaign contribution paid directly to Stormy Daniels. The federal judge who denied the governments request for limited redactions to protect third Party Interests called the violations in the matter a matter of national importance. He says, it is time that every american has an opportunity to scrutinize these very materials. And scrutinize they have been. Joining me now, nbc news correspondent, tom winter. Walk me through, what have we learned from these documents that we didnt know this morning . I think a couple things. As far as the over arching scheme weve known about this. Weve known there were payments made, we know that the payments were made, you know, on behalf of, according to what Michael Cohen said and other documentation these payments were made on behalf of the president s campaign to pay these two women for affairs they say they had with the president that he has strenuously denied. Weve known about that. That is not new. Weve talked about this probably a hundred times. What is new today is the president in his engagement with Michael Cohen on this issue according to phone records. These are not the president s phone records. They were not listening to the president s calls based on the information thats in this affidavit. What these were, were records for Michael Cohens phones. Basically, they detail five specific conversations that Michael Cohen had with the president in one of those certain circumstances he is on the phone with hope hicks, who was his press secretary at the time. Basically the calls start on october 8th, which is right after the access Hollywood Tape comes out. The fbi writes in their affidavit to get the search warrants to get into Michael Cohens apartment, his home, his hotel, basically saying, look. We believe these were discussions that were had because the access hollywood story came out and they wanted to tamp down on these other stories involving other women. So the phone calls start at 7 20 p. M. On october 58 cording to these documents, fourminute phone call between trump and cohen and 8 03 a phone call between trump and cohen and the publisher of the National Enquirer the head of American Media. This phone call occurs on october 8. Theres a series of discussions back and forth. I wont detail all of them because it goes on for several pages in these documents about arranging a payment to Stormy Daniels through her attorney. Then on october 26th, the day that money is funded into escrow, essentially saying, Michael Cohen says, okay. Im going to give her 130,000 for this payment, into escrow, as long as we get the documents back from Stormy Daniels and her side the day that payment is funded in the morning at 8 26 cohen and trump talk for three minutes. Then at 8 34 they have a minute and a half phone call. There are other Text Messages and messages between cohen and other players that day. Then on the 28th of october leading up to the election in 2016 at 11 48 a. M. There is a fiveminute phone conversation between trump and cohen. Thats the day that essentially we get the done deal. This whole payment involving Stormy Daniels is complete. So its an important timeline. Its a new timeline to us. It details just how involved individual number one which Michael Cohen identified at the time the president , then candidate donald trump, was involved in this process. Okay. From what you have just outlined to me, i hear this and i think, wow. This is bad news. This is bad news for hope hicks, potentially david pekhar, potentially the president. The president s attorney puts out a statement at the same time saying we are pleased the investigation regarding these ridiculous Campaign Finance allegations is now closed. We have plain tained from the outset that the president never engaged in any Campaign Finance violation. Glad this thing is now closed. The president is also saying via twitter, i did nothing. This thing is now over. How is it that youre saying, wow. All this bad stuff happened. And the president is spiking the ball. Which is it . Well, i think the bottom line is and i think we saw it from the Mueller Report and from the department of justice. They believe they cannot indict a sitting president. Hope hicks isnt a sitting president. Neither is david pekhar. He is okay because he signed a nonprosecution agreement. He signed an agreement with the government we heard about in december of last year when Michael Cohen was sentenced. Basically he provided substantial testimony to federal prosecutors and to the fbi in new york in the course of the investigation. It was very helpful to them so they agreed not to prosecute him and not to prosecute American Media which is the company he heads and the company that publishes the National Enquirer as long as they took certain reforms as well. Basically from a legal perspective essentially he got a clean bill of health. Trumps lawyer says pleased that the allegations surrounding these ridiculous allegations is now closed. He is accurate because the reason this material is unredacted today and were able to talk about it is because prosecutors in new york, Southern District prosecutors notified the judge and told the judge, look. We have now concluded this part of the investigation. The Media Company sought to get access to the search warrants because we knew theyd contain these details we are talking about today. Prosecutors said, look. We still have certain aspects of our investigations in the search warrants that are still being investigated. We dont want that out into the open. The judge agreed. Now prosecutors have said, look. Were done with the Campaign Finance portion of this. Your honor, were willing to unredact that. And it was the judge who said i believe the American People should hear this. Should hear this for what purpose . Hope hicks still living her life in l. A. When she gets a subpoena basically laughs at congress and says im not talking. So is it that the judge wants the American People to hear this for our own personal interest . For democrats or congress possibly moving forward with an impea impeachment proceeding . From a legal perspective if the case is closed do you really think theyll reopen it . I think what the judge is doing here and i havent talked with the judge and i dont expect him to take my calls but when a judge looks at this they say, look. There is a lot of underlying information. Michael cohen before he pled guilty was going to be indicted and indicted on a lengthy indictment that would have likely included all of these details. So it is information and details concerning the president that havent been made public before. The other thing you have to look at with respect to hope hicks is whether or not theres actually a nexus to a federal crime here. If hope hicks is facilitating phone conversations and is aware of phone conversations, she is not necessarily being involved in or directing or complicit in the scheme. From a legal perspective, whatever we may think about that from a from the way that it looks whether we think that is acceptable behavior, whatever we may think about it there needs to be a legal nexus to a crime. It is not clear to me from the search warrants, certainly the president s involvement in the timeline raises significant legal questions if he wasnt holding the office of the president but from a hope hicks perspective is she just facilitating phone calls and aware of the discussions in which case could you really charge her . I dont know. I think from a legal you need a legal analyst. Guess what . Weve got two of them. Lets bring them in. Former federal prosecutor Glen Kirschner and former u. S. Attorney joyce vance. Glen, to you first. As unsettling as this report may be what does it actually mean in terms of legal consequences . Let me use tom winters great reporting and jump into the legal issues that i think this raises. Now, first of all, we see in the documents that were just released this sentence. It says, now this is right after the access Hollywood Tape is released, on october 8th, 2016, at approximately 7 20 p. M. , cohen receives a call from hope hicks. 16 seconds into that call, trump joins it as a three way Conference Call and they talk for four minutes. Heres where i think the legal issues arise. Hope hicks reportedly said, i have no recollection of that call. Now, that might make it sound like its a he said she said, with the he said being Michael Cohen saying, wait a minute. We had this three way call with, you know, soontobe President Donald Trump and discussed this blockbuster access Hollywood Tape and the implications of it for trump and the Stormy Daniels issue. And hope hicks tells federal investigators, i have no recollection. That i think gives hope hicks real legal exposure because it is no longer he said she said. But, glenn, where and with whom . Here is where. This information is new to you and i but not new to prosecutors. The same prosecutors who charged Michael Cohen. Thats why he is sitting in jail. They didnt charge hope hicks and they had this information. Heres where i see it playing out, steph, in congress, for hope hicks, not necessarily in the courts. We know hope hicks has already appeared before congress and asserted a bogus privilege. Absolute immunity. That battle will move into the courts. Congress had to take it. The courts will decide there is no such thing. Shell return to congress and shell have to testify truthfully or invoke her 5th amendment right against selfincrimination. Congress will have to decide whether to immunize her. I predict they will. Then she has to give up the president unless she wants to be held in contempt or perjure herself. It is a long road and were all frustrated but that is where i see the road map taking us as a result of what we learned today. Joyce, its a long road. Its one that thus far doesnt hope hicks doesnt seem to mind being on. At the same time, the president is running a victory lap and his attorneys are saying, case closed. It is very difficult i think in some ways to understand whats going on here. And there are many questions that need to be addressed to the attorney general whos been happy to answer questions about his Decision Making in other cases to determine whether or not he had any influence on the outcome of this case. Im not suggesting that because i do think that we would see signals from inside of sdny. We would see prosecutors asking to be removed from the case if they felt like it had been mishandled. So the most likely outcome here, steph, is that prosecutors didnt think they could prove knowledge as to hope hicks. And this is an unusual statute, the Campaign Finance statute. It requires that prosecutors prove beyond a reasonable doubt that each defendant had knowledge that they were violating the law. Not necessarily the Campaign Finance law but some law. Perhaps that was the Sticking Point with hicks. It looks pretty clearly here and i think the judge strongly signaled there is sufficient evidence to prove that the president was, in fact, individual one, a still unnamed coconspirator in a Campaign Finance violation here. That may have to await the end of his tenure as president. Last word . Just very briefly. Look, a lot of people in the new york federal Law Enforcement have my phone number and i have a lot of their phone numbers and ive been talking with them over weeks and months. Nobody has said theres been any interference from the attorney general on this case. Im not omniscient. I thought you were. Definitely not. But theres been no indication to me theres been any sort of interference in this case. By bill barr. Correct. Joyce, glenn, thank you both so much. Tom. Thank you. My friend, i havent even gotten to say hello. How are things in new york . I am going to send it back to you. It has been a very busy day here in new york as well. Jeffrey epstein will stay in jail with the department of corrections. This morning a judge here in new york city denied his bond application agreeing with prosecutors the financeer should remain behind bars. In fact, epstein is charged with sex trafficking conspiracy involving minors and sex trafficking of minors as we mentioned. Three alleged victims are listed in the federal indictment against him. Were learning more about what investigators found when they searched his Upper Eastside home. According to a letter filled with filed rather with the judge prosecutors say a safe was found containing about 70,000 in cash, 48 loose diamonds, and an expired foreign passport with epsteins picture but a different name. Nbc news correspondent Stephanie Gosk is covering the case for us from the courtroom. Reporter Jeffrey Epstein is staying in jail before he goes to trial facing two charges. One of sex trafficking one of conspiracy to traffic minors for the purpose of sex. He has pleaded not guilty to those charges. The judge made it very, very quick today. This hearing was short. He came in and he said that there was clear and convincing evidence from federal prosecutors that Jeffrey Epstein was a danger to the community. They said there was also a preponderance of proof that he was a flight risk. Now, unpacking that a little bit the judge specifically mentioned the two accusers that testified during the bail hearing. Its fairly unusual to have that kind of testimony during a bail hearing. Many have said that it is a sign of how deliberate and careful new york authorities are being with this case. The judge saying that their testimony that Jeffrey Epstein was dangerous, they were scared of him being out in the public, that affected him. And today announcing that Jeffrey Epstein will be in jail. He could be charged if he is found guilty on these two charges, he could be put away for 45 years. In other words, he could be in prison for the rest of his life. Thanks to Stephanie Gosk for that. We just heard from President Trump on the squad again. Well bring that to you shortly. What is he trying to achieve with these continuous attacks . Thats coming up. Too many people in pain settle for a restless nights sleep. Theres a better choice. Aleve pm. The only one to combine a safe sleep aid and the 12hour painrelieving strength of aleve that dares to last into the morning. So you feel refreshed. Aleve pm. 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