we have a team on the ground following the campaigns. shaquille brewster with the bernie sanders, ali vitale with elizabeth warren, josh letterman following michael bloomberg. good to see you. shaq, bernie sanders says he is ready for the pressure. what can we expect to see tonight? >> reporter: that's right, chris. he said he was ready for the pressure of being and scrutiny of being frontrunner. what you're seeing from his campaign is him trying to get ahead of attacks that have been telegraphed from some of the other candidates. we know he is going to be on stage, defending his big ideas, things like medicare for all, college for all, green new deal, and candidates like vice president biden are ready to go after him, say you haven't provided the cost, haven't been honest about that. senator sanders released pay fors, to pay for the big ideas. same ideas he has talked about, same ways to pay for them, same menu of options in each of them. he put them on one list, put them on the website, said i am showing you how i propose to pay for many of these things. it is clear the campaign is ready for attacks. senator sanders admitted he is not comfortable with, he is used to being an outsider, now he has to be ready foray tax from other candidates, and giving them ammunition. yesterday, he was defending his comments about fidel castro and the literacy program, while condemning the cuban regime. it is that the candidates will try to pull any way they can, go after him any way they can, knowing this is a moment, may be one of the final moments to directly confront him before his momentum continues. >> do or die applies here. elizabeth warren got a big money bump after the last debate. she was widely praised for her debate performance, no bump in the poll. what's the battle plan tonight? >> reporter: look, nevada was a little different than the past few states we've seen because for the warren campaign, she had that kind of standout debate performance, but so many people early voted there was no polling boost. this campaign, that debate marked a larger point made in the context of the primary, showing that there's still life in the warren campaign, yet we know they needed that money boost they got in days and hours following the debate. that's important. her strategy has always been to push deeper into the primary calendar and use the infrastructure that her campaign has invested in and built across the country. that's coming into play super tuesday. the nevada debate for them was crucial if only on that front. what they're hoping is now that you get into south carolina, that they can just get another bump out of a strong debate performance. we know from the campaign trail she's only just continued hitting someone like michael bloomberg. he continues to be a perfect foil for her campaign. the question for everyone on stage is what they're going to do about bernie sanders. other candidates on stage have previewed on the campaign trail they're willing to go directly at sanders. for warren that's a little stickier. she's willing to draw contrast on filibuster reform, but that's not an attack a voter can latch onto and think how it will directly impact her life. for warren, it is about efficiency and getting progressive policies done. it will be interesting to see if she sharpens the knife for bernie sanders at all. if you're on stage and your name isn't bernie sanders, you need to make a case why you're in the primary going forward. voters who aren't going for a bernie sanders' candidacy want to see an alternative on stage. for many of them, it is not if they can stay in with money, should they stay in with the argument on stage. >> money is not the problem for michael bloomberg, the debate is he is looking for a do over. i find it interesting that a lot of his supporters and aides say his debate was so poor. how has he been prepping, what are you hearing from inside the campaign? >> practice makes perfect, chris. michael bloomberg has been off the campaign trail several days as he has been huddled with advisers, working to rehearse for the debate, making sure he doesn't have a repeat of the weak performance in the first debate. we have spoken with campaign officials that say his singular focus tonight will be on bernie sanders and working to take him down. throughout the day today, as we get ready for the debate, we see the bloomberg campaign start to preview some of the attacks he may use in tonight's debate. we finished a news conference in front of american flags behind miada hotel in charleston where a group of surrogates for mike bloomberg, mayors and others that endorsed mike bloomberg attacked bernie sanders' record, going after his record on gun control as well as criticizing him for what they describe as a thin record of accomplishment for narrowing the income gap for people of color. i asked the surrogates what about mike bloomberg's only record on race and policing, other comments that came to light that raised a lot of questions. they said look, it's different. mike bloomberg has apologized, said he learned from his mistakes. that's something they're waiting to see from bernie sanders. >> josh letterman, shaq brewster, ali vitale, thank you. joining me, a consultant that works on campaigns of newt gingrich, mitt romney, and dr. ben carson. great to see you. sher michael, i covered the carson campaign and jeb bush for awhile. as i mentioned at the top, it wasn't long after the south carolina primary that they were both gone. the pressure on a night like tonight. take us inside what it is like in these campaigns, knowing there's so much at stake. >> chris, i remember in 2016 i was in south carolina, i was in that room watching that performance, had other colleagues that worked for the other republican candidates at that time, i have to tell you the biggest concern is money. you know that super tuesday is right around the corner and the question is can my candidate perform well enough so that we can go to the top donors so you can also send out email blasts to your supporters, energizing them to contribute whatever they can to give you some type of fuel going into super tuesday with the hope that you can maybe win two or three states to be able to argue why you should continue and maintain your candidacy in the race. that's going to be the biggest question for many of the candidates and their campaigns tonight and i would argue, chris, when you look at the momentum and energy behind bernie sanders at this point which reminds me so much of donald trump in 2016, it may be too late to change the direction. >> that's what we're going to find out, right? joel, no surprise to you that there's kind of a deluge of oppo research on bernie sanders, after the last debate there was surprise more of it didn't come in. some of his folks are saying things now we're led to believe some of the let's say wilder things as people have sort of put them that bernie sanders has said in the past, that your campaign, hillary clinton's campaign chose not to use. are you surprised by the things you're hearing, and is it all out war against bernie sanders now, do or die? >> no, i'm not surprised by anything we're seeing. this is in a lot of ways the last stand of the establishment of the democratic party. at least in terms of whether or not a joe biden can really reassert himself at the top of the race. it is interesting, i notice joshua in south carolina with the bloomberg campaign, and if i was the bloomberg campaign, i would actually want joe biden to not do well, i wouldn't be attacking bernie sanders because the way that bloomberg isolates the race as he versus sanders is if biden falters this week, and if this turns into a super tuesday fight between sanders and bloomberg. i think that's an interesting bit of strategy, if they even have folks on the ground in south carolina, and they're contesting south carolina even though bloomberg is a candidate in ab sen sha, he is not on the ballot. tonight will be for the second tier candidates to justify why am i still in the race, why am i still relevant, why do my donors still need to give me money, why do folks in the party not need to push me out of the race. for buttigieg, for klobuchar, for warren, they have to justify why they still belong in this race and why they're not simply stopping the inevitability of sanders or sanders and bloomberg versus biden being the ultimate result of what we see. >> and i think oppo research can be tricky. what actually sticks has changed post trump. having said that, i think there's first of all always the criticism, do you go too far against your fellow democrats that in fact democrats don't like it, have you chosen something that isn't going to stick but make you look small somehow. i mean, again, what are you expecting to see tonight in terms of some of the tougher and maybe even newer attacks in. >> look, i think i'll start with elizabeth warren for starters. i think elizabeth warren has to be able to distinguish herself from bernie sanders. they have a lot of similar ideas, a lot of similar supporters. she should have done this several months ago. i think now she reached a point her campaign is almost out of money, and it may be a little too late. for someone like a joe biden who wants to knock bernie sanders out of the number one spot to take that position again has to articulate to voters, particularly african-american voters in south carolina and beyond come super tuesday that if bernie sanders becomes a democratic nominee, it is almost certain that democrats may indeed lose their house majority. it is certain that president trump will likely be reelected by maybe even a stronger margin than 2016. >> joel is shaking his head. >> voters have to consider that if they vote for bernie sanders because a lot of his ideas while they do register with a very small subset of democratic voters, it is not representative of the democratic party at large, certainly not representative of the american voter populous at large. that's something that some of the candidates have to make a distinction tonight on that stage. >> joel? >> chris, chris, you have no idea how much we have talked about this off the air and -- >> i do believe. >> but look, i understand why he is someone who is from his political background may have glee what's going on at the democratic primary, the idea of bernie sanders being at the top of the ticket. but i would argue there were a lot of people that vote like i vote, that had the same feeling when donald trump became the republican nominee four years ago. in politics, the ground moves beneath your feet very quickly, and usually you get caught fighting the last war. i would be very careful for my good friend shermichael, i have family that say he is their favorite person. >> you have a family member that says that? your family sounds like my family. >> chris, if i can say quickly to my friend joel, that's my point, joel, the democrats have to coalesce around one alternative, otherwise it will be a repeat of 2016. just like we got donald trump, democrats will be stuck with bernie sanders. >> who's your favorite? 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>> well, currently the health risks are minimum, practically nonexi nonexistent dealing with coronavirus. what the cdc was referring to is the fact that we're seeing cases now in a considerable number outside of china in other countries, south korea, italy, iran, japan, and when you start to see sustained transmission from person to person in multiple different countries throughout the world, it is inevitable that this will come to the united states and you'll have the kinds of infections we hope we're not going to see but inevitably will see unless the other countries get complete control of the infections, for example, in south korea and italy and other places. we need to be prepared. i think the chances are slim that they're going to be able to control it completely, and each day we see more countries that are now having community spread of person to person. and that's the reason why the cdc made that warning in their press conference that it is likely we will see infections in this country. >> so one of the things we heard from the president today who was asked about it at a press conference in india is we are close to a vaccine, he feels confident. how close are we, number one. number two, even if we're close to that vaccine, what are the chances that the timing will be soon enough that we can stop what may indeed be this inevitable set of cases? >> well, you're asking a very good question. we are going to have a vaccine in early phase one trial to determine safety in the next couple of months, if not sooner. that will be the quickest we ever got a vaccine from the time we discovered a pathogen to the time we started to test it in humans. however, that's just the first step in the development of a vaccine. and if you really want to talk about realistic timing, it is likely that we will not have a vaccine available for deployment in a meaningful way in at least a year to a year and a half. >> a year to a year and a half? >> that is correct. we will be testing it literally within a month or so, but a vaccine that we can give to tens and tens of millions of people will not happen for at least a year, even under emergency process. >> so what do we do in the meantime? how prepared are we and what do we still need to do, doctor? >> well, i mean, obviously we are reasonably well prepared. we had a pandemic preparedness plan we put together years ago and what the cdc was talking about is taking the process from containment to mitigation, and mitigation means to be prepared to do things that would slow down the spread if we had an influx of infections, such as closing schools, social distancing, tele working, things like that. we need to start thinking of that now, even though it isn't absolutely necessary to implement it now. >> i don't want to get you involved in politics but i want to make sure we're getting correct information out there. one of the things the president also said today was i think the whole situation will start working out and rush limbaugh who is a big supporter of his basically said to his many viewers on his show monday the coronavirus is the common cold, folks, he basically said we're overstating this. are we overstating this and are we in a situation where the whole thing is just going to work itself out? >> well, first of all the common cold rarely if ever kills anybody, rarely, truly rarely. and even seasonal influenza has a mortality of 0.1%. the current mortality of this outbreak at least in china was 2 to 2.5%. that's serious. i think it would not be appropriate to say this is just another common cold because it clearly is not just another common cold. >> dr. anthony fauci, you always give us so much important information at a time a lot of people had concerns heightened. thank you so much, sir. we appreciate your time. >> good to be with you. speaking of coronavirus, right now stocks are down again over the growing concerns of the possible spread and its impact on global markets after going down a thousand points yesterday, now down 524. of course, that was one of the biggest one day drops we've seen, the biggest in two years. joining me, bob pisani, live at the stock exchange. what are we seeing today? >> reporter: i think what's happened, u.s. markets were at historic highs a week ago under the belief it would be largely contained to china, and that hasn't happened. we're seeing outbreaks in south korea, italy, as far as iran. the concern is even minor impacts in europe, for example, potentially in the united states could slow global growth significantly the first quarter. the question is how long it lasts. we don't know the fundamentals. traders are lightening up on positions. we were at highs last week. >> what sectors are being hit today? >> ones you would expect. master card, big global credit card company came out, said we don't know where this will impact, we're seeing some effects in asia. american express, visa, master card are weak, industrial names, boeing, caterpillar, 3m, they're exposed to the global economy, get half their revenue outside the united states, oil companies like exxon, chevron. oil is down, their prices are tied to the price of oil. >> bob pi ssani. appreciate it. coming up, the race for south carolina is on. candidates will be put to the test for the first time with a large population of black voters in south carolina. we'll look at how important tonight's debate will be for the candidates. first, looking ahead to what's next for the me too movement, following harvey weinstein's guilty verdict. will prosecutors be inclined to take on future cases? we talk with one of weinstein's accusers that testified against him. you're watching msnbc live. you're watching msnbc live your mission: stand up to moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. and take. it. on with rinvoq. rinvoq a once-daily pill can dramatically improve symptoms... rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. and for some... rinvoq can even significantly reduce ra fatigue. that's rinvoq relief. with ra, your overactive immune system attacks your joints. rinvoq regulates it to help stop the attack. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious infections and blood clots, sometimes fatal, have occurred as have certain cancers, including lymphoma, and tears in the stomach or intestines, and changes in lab results. your doctor should monitor your bloodwork. tell your doctor about any infections and if you are or may become pregnant while taking rinvoq. ready to take on ra? 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>> absolutely. i mean, i really absolutely feel it is the only way forward. we have to keep speaking the truth and i feel like, you know, there's been something set in motion that's just unstoppable now, it is irreversible, we cannot go back. it is just new times, you know. >> and gloria, you have been a champion for women's rights a long time, help us put this moment in perspective. what has been achieved and what do we need to still do? >> i do, chris, see this as the age of empowerment of women, the time when women are no longer willing to suffer in silence, they're no longer going to let their fear paralyze them, turn that fear and rage inward and be self destructive, instead they're turning it outward into constructive action. they're either going to speak out, go to private lawyers to have settlements or they're going to go and file lawsuits or participate in the criminal justice system, and that took an enormous amount of courage because mimi was subjected to intense and brutal hours and hours of cross examination. she was willing to do that and speak her truth because it was in the interest of justice for her to do it. now we moved from the age of empowerment to legal reckoning. there are consequences now on the perpetrator of gender violence against her and that's because she was brave and was willing to speak the truth. >> it costs a lot personally to change this, i think we're all very aware of that, i can't imagine what you've been through. what makes it worth it? >> you know what, i get random messages, not random, i get messages from women i don't know reaching out to me on social media or in person sometimes just saying thank you so much and this means so much. they'll share their own experiences and tell me about things, for example, like this helped them deal with something in their life that they weren't necessarily brave or didn't feel comfortable enough to speak up about, so those type of supportive messages make me feel like it's worth it and it makes me feel it was a good -- it was the right decision, even before the verdict, because obviously, you know, before the verdict, you know, whatever the verdict had been, it wouldn't have changed what happened to me, but obviously it was terrifying to think maybe i wouldn't be believed. >> and this is not the end for harvey weinstein. after the sentence which is scheduled march 11th, move on, he will be taken quickly to los angeles for his arraignment on charges against him there. one of my clients, lauren, is a person that testified as a witness, prior bad act witness in the new york criminal case. she is one of the two victims for whom charges were filed in the los angeles case. so he's got a world of trouble ahead of him, and this sentence which could mean that he could be spending the rest of his life in prison depending what the judge decides is not going to be all he has to suffer. but you know, he said he was surprised, according to his attorneys. he said i'm innocent, how can this happen in america. well, it can happen because women were brave and courage is contagious. >> gloria allred, perfect way to end it. mimi haley, what you've done will change the lives of women for decades to come. thank you. >> thank you so much. president trump down playing the coronavirus, as stocks plummet. the implications he could face as the virus spreads during a contentious election year. we are hours from the debate in south carolina. joe biden tries to secure his first big win in the primaries. can his debate performance slow down sanders' momentum? 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how powerful would that be with south carolina voters? >> well, i mean that would be important with south carolina voters. you know, he is the most prominent african-american politician we have in the state, he's of course the most powerful african-american congressman in the capital right now, and he can basically help solidify joe biden's stature in south carolina, one where he has lead in polls throughout the past year in the state. biden has been really almost very strong at this point, and it is amazing to see how sanders has closed the gap on him in recent, really since the new year. >> steve, how much of the polls reflect what happens in caucuses and in primaries so far. if we're going to talk about, accept what andy says, and i think a lot of people feel joe biden can't win by a little, he has to win by a lot, show that strength with african-american voters. when you look at 27, 23, 15% there, all the money tom steyer put in, what are chances he pulls away by double digits. >> couple questions in the poll, the poll you're showing was taken before the nevada result. there's a question there, did the headlines from winning nevada boost sanders in a way that's not evident in that poll. the other is steyer, a wildcard in this, he is spending so much money on the air there. we have seen this elsewhere. is this the kind of thing where he pops up in the poll, but when folks get to the voting booth back away from steyer and that support becomes a bit of a wildcard, but yeah, it really is. south carolina been saying this a long time, it is the first real major test of strength with african-american voters. in 2016, bernie sanders came to south carolina hoping to show he made in roads, he lost the black vote by 72 points to hillary clinton in 2016 in the south carolina primary. in our poll, trails biden by 15. 35-20. there's a question from sanders' standpoint, if he can get close to even with black voters in south carolina, not only does that bode well howl do in south carolina, bodes well how he would do in other states with significant black population. but if biden runs up the number 20 points plus, could be new life for joe biden, not just in south carolina but beyond. >> steve kornacki, andy shane, can't wait to see what happens tonight. appreciate it. coming up, the dire warnings of coronavirus around the world are presenting potential political threats for president trump at home. how the deadly virus could effect his re-election campaign. you're watching msnbc live. you'e transitions light under control. ♪ upbeat music transitions signature gen 8, available now in 4 new style colors. transitions. ♪[ siren ] & doug give me your hand! i can save you... lots of money with liberty mutual! we customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ i don't have to worry about that, do i? 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>> reporter: they just sent larry kudlow out, trying to calm the markets, saying they think they fundamentally contained coronavirus. while it's not airtight, the containment, they think they're pretty close. larry kudlow talking to our sister network, cnbc, try iing calm things down. on whether it's more heightened or more acute now, the president did appoint a cabinet-level task force on this early. he has gone out of his way to talk about this most of the time he engages with the press. if you want any indication for how there's heightened concern it's the level of money they're asking for. initially reports for $1.8 billion. the most recent request is for $2.5 billion in new money to combat this. we'll see whether or not that rate goes higher or lower. clearly they're keeping it open to have some flexibility, at least from the white house's side. >> your story in politico summarizes it well, global outbreak knocking down the u.s. economy and walloping markets in an election year, all against accusations about whether the trump administration has mismanaged and underfunded a critical response with american lives on the line. how great is the political danger here? >> well, i think that the white house is really worried behind the scenes about the economic impact. president trump views the stock market as another form of polling on his presidency. so it's something that he watches very closely. and then the trump campaign, and several of his political advisers believe that the state of the economy and the health of the stock market is his best re-election message going ahead. it's something they hope can win over voters in key states like wisconsin and pennsylvania, win back suburban women. if that's any threat to it, even if it's out of their control, like coronavirus, it's something they're really worried about. they don't, internally, have a plan as to what sort of economic levers they can pull if there is some sort of long-term economic damage. >> he tweeted today, president trump did, quote, crying chuck schumer is complaining for publicity purposes only that i should be asking for more money than $2.5 billion to prepare for coronavirus. if i asked for more, he would say it was too much. he didn't like my early travel closings. i was right, he is incompetent. there is, i think, a history that would suggest that in times of crisis, and way just talked to dr. anthony fauci, who said let's not get ahead of ourselves, but the cdc is right, it is going to be coming. the question is, how big is it going to be? in times of crisis, the buck, nancy, does tend to stop at the president's desk. >> absolutely. and the problem that the white house is facing in addition to the economic fears is that there has been a lot of internal fighting over what the response should look like. the secretary of health and human services, alex azar, has been on thin ice at several different moments in the white house over several different things, including his relationship with another key official. he is in charge of the response and a lot of this will fall on him if it doesn't go well. there's been internal fighting the last 24 hours over the amount of money that the white house should request for that supplemental package. there was a ton of confusion yesterday. some white house officials wanted that number to be as low as 1 billion. some wanted it to be as high as 5 billion. so at every turn of this crisis and the response, there has been internal bickering between the white house and the agencies, and i think that that has hurt the response at some point. >> this is a matter of life and death, hans nichols. >> reporter: yes. >> we're seeing what's happening in other places. so, given what we just heard from nancy and understanding, you know, the political season we are in, not just the re-election, but even take that out of it, the vitriol between the two parties, can we have any expectation in washington that if the coronavirus continues to spread, there will be some bipartisan effort to fund what needs to get done and that it will get done? >> there tends to be the money there for public health crises, right? it depends how quickly they get it out or crucially if congress or the president tries to attach anything else to the funding, if you have a clean bill, it can go through a lot faster. so, if past is precedent, i suspect the funding will be there. there could be real disputes about how it's spent and how effective the president and his entire administration have been about spending and coordinating, as nancy is reporting, across agencies. i would just note that during the ebola crisis, they had this separate directorate having to deal with global health challenges. when john bolton was starting this slivenging process at the nsc, they did away with that. at the time, there were people who said this could be a problem down the road. we'll see if there are any political repercussions for that. guys? >> we're continuing to watch the markets, coronavirus sell-off at 614 now. to punctuate a point from er, the president said we're close to getting a vaccine here. anthony fauci says that's about a year to a year and a half. what we're close to is testing vaccine, not to having one widely available. coming up, right now there are three former mayors trying to seize the democratic nomination. do they make the best candidates? 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