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MSNBCW MTP Daily April 28, 2016

Welcome to mtp daily. 81 days now until the Republican Convention in cleveland but the clock is about to strike midnight on the stop Trump Movement. They dont have months they dont have weeks to figure this out. Barely talking days for them. Just over 120 hours now until the voting is done in the state of indiana. If trump wins the hoosier state, this republican race is basically over. The map and the math do not lie. We are going to game it out on the big board in just a moment. Let me tell you, the devil is in the details on this one. You are looking live, mean while, at south bend, indiana, its the home of the university of notre dame. Also, Carly Fiorina speaking now and where ted cruz is about to take the stage as his campaign, as their campaign now, fights for survival. They are desperately trying to unite conservatives in a lastditch alamostyle stand against donald trump. We begin with, perhaps, the furthest thing from unity. The former republican speaker of the house of representatives, john boehner, delivering a blistering attack on cruz at an event last night at Stanford University in california. When it came to cruz, boehner did not mince words. Yeah. How about ted cruz. Lucifer in the flesh. In washington, i have democratic friends and republican friends. I get along with almost everyone. But i have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life. Boehner said he would vote for trump in a general election, but that if ted cruz is the republican nominee, he will not vote for him. In a moment, were going to speak with boehners former top spokesman. You dont want to miss that interview. The Cruz Campaign firing back at former House Speaker, first on social media, attacking him for comments boehner made about texting and golfing with trump. And then that was followed by a press conference in indiana, where nbcs Hallie Jackson asked cruz for his reaction to what john boehner had to say. If youre happy with john boehner, speakinger of the house and want a president like john boehner, Donald Trumps your man. Boehners comments, he said Something Like hes the worst s. O. B. Ive ever worked with, Something Like that. Lucifer in the flesh. There was that, too. But the interesting thing is, he said that ive ever worked with. Ive never worked with john boehner. Truth of the matter is i dont know the man. Boehners comments reveal everything that is wrong and corrupt with washington, everything youre angry with. When sbrooin cajohn boehner cal lucifer, hes not directing that at me. Hes directing that at you. The guy who holds boehners old job weighed in during his Weekly Briefing with reporters. Heres ryans exchange. Lucifer in the flesh, i have Democrat Friends and republican friends there are children here, watch what you say. But ive never worked with a more miserable son i heard. Your relationship with senator cruz. I have a much better relationship with senator cruz. I have a very Good Relationship with both men and im going to take it that way. Take your child to workday, luke editing comments were there were, as speaker pointed out, some children. Troubling signs for cruz, after the primary sweep, some holdouts on capitol hill now appear to be falling in line with donald trump. Trump winning support from three members of congress today. And in an interview with andrea mitchell, senator bob corker from tennessee, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee praised trump for yesterdays toned down speech on Foreign Policy. I thought it was a very good step forward. I enjoyed the speech. I like the speech. I think what youre seeing is someone who is evolving. I was building Shopping Centers in my previous life and was a mayor, came here, been in Foreign Policy nine years, three months know a lot today i didnt know then. We should note that trump told supporters in indiana today that he spoke with corker today, he called corker, quote, fantastic. Corker told msnbc he may change his mind about not endorsing a president ial candidate. A good sign there potentially for donald trump. Finally, for ted cruz, that shaky alliance, the deal with john kasich, against donald trump, well, that appears to be dead now, after kasichs campaign attacked cruz for picking fiorina as a running mate. Fiorina called on kasich to get out of the race. And today, cruz told reporters, quote, there is no alliance. The Washington Post Chris Cillizza wrote the epitaph for that, born sunday night, died thursday morning, rest in peace. Lets kick things off with luke russert, all over capitol hill today. He spoke with speaker ryan and spoke with Trumps Convention manager, paul manafort, outside a capitol hill meeting between the campaigns and members of the congress. Luke, start with you, big day for the republican race on capitol hill. You got the trump forces in town trying to make friends there at the same time, youve got john boehner sending signals if ted cruz is looking for the republican establishment to rally around him, he may have some trouble there. What are you finding out today . Reporter i think theres two things. Number one is that if the immediate narrative there was a strong, Never Trump Movement here on capitol hill and the establishment would fall into line, get behind ted cruz, i think we may have gone too far down that story line over the last few months. People forget how toxic ted cruz was in october 2013. He was a thorn in the side of not only john boehner but Mitch Mcconnell and routinely prohibited boehner and mcconnell getting legislation forward because theyd have to negotiate with nancy pelosi or harry reid because their conservative caucuses and conferences couldnt stand in line behind them because they didnt have enough members for the 218 votes on the house floor and moving forward in the senate. Thats the first thing. Two, i also think youre starting to see a Real Movement that, okay, trump has won in connecticut, massachusetts, and also in places like alabama, south carolina, and mississippi. This is real. Someone who has that type of pull around the country, it behooves us to get on the train sooner rather than later. I think the Real Movement, though, steve, came with pennsylvania, all of those committed delegates that have come out saying theyre more likely than not going to trump or could go for trump. You look at endorsements today, kelly, shuster from pennsylvania, youre starting to see, gosh, he won every count any the state. Maybe i dont want to be so against my constituents. If he wins indiana, he pulls up big numbers out west in california, a lot of the members say, back home, my people like trump, maybe i should get on board and stop being silent. Thats a real possibility here in the next few weeks which would be wild, considering where we were a few months ago. Luke russert on capitol hill. Great report. Five days to he go now until indiana. You might think that both of trumps rivals would be joined by a financial cavalry of big gop donors, at least to judge from what the stop Trump Movement has been promising. But the Associated Press is reporting Many Republican rainmakers have fled the scene, denying cruz and kasich needed funds to mount effective offensive against trump. Kasie hunt has been working the stop trump beat for us. She joins us from indianapolis. Kasie, pick up on that point. Luke was making there. Something ive been thinking for a while, too, to listen to stop trump forces, theyd have you believe anybody that wasnt on board with donald trump a month ago, is automatically on board with pulling out all of the stops through the convention to stop him. Some of the things were seeing and hearing on capitol hill indicate theres a lot of wiggle room for trump to make inroads with people who may not be supporting him yet. Reporter theres plenty of room. And part of this is because the stop trump forces are frustrated with the candidates runling against trump, candidates are frustrated with the stop trump forces. Its almost as though theyre turning their guns on each other. Part of this in that a. P. Report you pointed to is about money, right . John kasich, a candidate who a lot of the more establishment types could get on board with and of course kasich feeling like they should get on bort with him. Theyre not giving money to him. The donors that gave to jeb bush, they gave to marco rubio, they maybe gave thousands or millions of dollars to right to rise, super pac run by mike murphy that did next to nothing from what we can tell to help jeb bush get elected to the presidency. All the donors are feeling burned and theyre, frankly, not ponying up for the stop trump efforts. A lot of the donts, in particular, they dont necessarily want to be out there publicly saying that theyre against trump necessarily. But at the same time they dont see necessarily a viable alternative. Theres a sense on the ground in indiana, steve, that this race is moving towards trump, not away interest him. Kasie hunt on the stop trump beat out there in indiana. Thanks for that. Going to bring in Michael Steele. The Michael Steele the top spokesman to former House Speaker john boehner, not the other Michael Steele, the former rnc chairman. More recently adviser to the super pac backing jeb bushs president ial bid. Thanks for taking a few minutes. You know john boehner as well as anyone. The perfect person to ask about this today. Lets start on comments from john boehner for people out there who only follow this stuff at a passing leveling a glancing level in washington, tell us when john boehner says something about ted cruz like that, where is that coming from . Give us a real good sense of why ted cruzs name gets that kind of reaction from john boehner. Theres a huge amount of frustration with senator cruz among Many Republicans on capitol hill, particularly in the fall of 2013, as luke discussed. Look, john boehner wants to repeal obamacare, he worked very hard to repeal obamacare. He and ted cruz had adisagreement over tactics. Ted cruz texas senator believed if we just shut down the government, somehow, magically president obama will agree to repeal obamacare. It was a dumb and ineffective tactic, damaged the partys standing with the american people. Speaker boehner knew it was a bad idea. It was clear he always knew it United States and doomed to failure and we had better tools to dismantle the president S Health Care law. Theres that strategic aspect where ted cruz pushed the party into a direction that boehner and others thought was strategically disastrous in 2013 with the shutdown. Tell me this, whether boehner or other republicans like boehner who feel what youre talking about there toward ted cruz, is there another aspect to this where they think theres ins insincerity with ted cruz, playing the conservative hero, playing crusader, purist and they think its an act to get himself ahead in politics . No, i dont think anyone questions sincerity of senator cruz. Beliefs. This is a period of time when he seemed to be putting his own ambition above effectively using majorities in the house to fight the president S Health Care law. Tell us what happens now, this dilemma for the republican establishment. An interesting place that ted cruz finds himself. He defined himself in opposition to john boehner tactically, in opposition to the republican establishment. Now he sort of counting on them to help him stop donald trump. Boehner sending out a signal, im not going to be part of than how much of the republican establishment is boehner speaking for here, do you think . I think the former speakers speaking for the former speaker himself and thats about it. This was his personal opinion offered at a speech in california. How many would agree with him, with the sentiment hes putting out there . I think it is an ironic position for senator cruz, who defined himself in opposition to the establishment to be in some senses the establishment alternative to donald trump. But thats how far out of the republican mainstream donald trump is. Because hes not a republican, because hes not a conservative, there are a lot of people turning to the least bad option even though that option is not their favorite. So talk about trump, another detail here that boehner let out at this speech at stanford, hes been texting, texting buddies with donald trump. You worked with boehner. Was trump on John Boehners radar at all before this campaign . Was that somebody who was in his orbit in think way before the last year . Sure. Never underestimate the bond of a good round of golf. Theyve known each or for some years now. Washington republican, when they look at donald trump, bob dole said this a while ago, bob dole said, i think hes the kind of guy we could make a deal with. Do you think a lot of Washington Republicans feel that way. I think in this situation with trump having a series of huge wins this week and seeming to inch closer to the nomination, not there yet, i think that a lot of republicans in washington and across the country are hoping that he will in some form or fashion evolve from his pugnacious comments, from attitudes that drive people away from our party to become someone that more republicans can support. But right now, its a hope and nothing more than that. All right. Ive got to ask you this, too. The term he used, boehner used, lucifer in the flesh, i know a lot of people, i think of his age, who went to catholic school. Correct me if im wrong, i was hearing a Catholic Education from the 50 and 60s there, does that sound about right . I think thats entirely possible. Michael steel, appreciate it. We are waiting for a john kasich event thats going to be taking place this hour. Getting word that kasich is going to be making comments, his campaign saying, on the state of the race. Curiosity there. Well bring you what he has to say live. Next, threes company, why the time could be right for Third Party Candidate this year. Bill kristol joins us. The end game, well look at what the Sanders Campaign wants to accomplish, as his path to the democratic. Abo nomination narrows. Poor mouth breather. Allergies . Stuffy nose . Cant sleep . Take that. A breathe right nasal strip instantly opens your nose up to 38 more than allergy medine alone. Shut your mouth and say goodnight, mouthbreathers. Breathe right. As Hillary Clinton take as few days off from the campaign trail, new evidence showing how seriously the clinton camp is pivoting to the general election. Latest nbc news numbers show team clinton isnt spending any money on ads in the upcoming primary contest. Not a single dollar in indiana oregon, west virginia, kentucky, even california. Team sanders, meanwhile, spending about 1 million on ads in all of the upcoming states. 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We got indiana nextweek. Now the way they do it, get a big chunk of them if you win staid state wide and then do it by district. Say trump loses statewide. Wins three congressional districts, thats a fair low side estimate. He gets nine delegates out of indiana. That would put him at an even 1,000. Then further into may, what happens . West virginia, nebraska. Say he takes a lot in nebraska, thats a winner take all state. That could be a cruz state. West virginia, looking like a trump state. 1030s the number were going to give him, two more states to come in may. Washington an

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