Good evening to you. Here in new york in for chuck todd tonight. Welcome to mtp daily. We are going to take you inside that dramatic shakeup at trump headquarters. How it went down, why it went down, what the fallout is and whether the Campaign Just tried to douse a fire with rocket fuel. Also, were trying to keep an eye on trumps big rally since the big shakeup. Mike pence right now being introduced. Were keeping a close eye on his remarks. Well let you know if anythings happening out there. But lets dive right in. This has been a dizzying stretch for donald trump. Selfinflicted wounds, worsening controversies. Dire warnings from his own Party Leaders to tone it down as republicans beg trump to pivot to a more tra dig l general election strategy. Trumps response to all of it, forget about it. Trump announcing a Major Overhaul at the top of his campaign. He is installing as his campaign ceo steve bannon. Hes a Top Executive from the right wing media outlet breitbart news. He has a reputation as a political street fighter. He is a big fan of trumps brash style. Also in addition to that, trump tapping pollster and conservative fire brand Kellyanne Conway to serve as his campaign manager. Both moves sidelining Paul Manafort who was intent on turning trump into a more establishment friendly general election candidate. This is a Campaign Intent on returning to the strategy that it thinks worked in the republican primary season. Let trump be trump. That is something that has many conservatives anxious right now. Because trump being trump is arguably what got the Trump Campaign into this mess. If you are saying he cant do his job because of his race, is that not the definition of racism. No. Were building a wall. Hes a mexican. Do you think its appropriate to call the sitting president of the United States the founder of a terrorist organization that wants to kill americans . He was the founder of isis. Absolutely. The elections are ig arigged. All of a sudden, i was viciously attacked on the stage of the Democratic National convention by mr. Khan and i responded to that vicious attack. If you look at his wife, she was standing there, maybe she wasnt allowed to have anything to say. You tell me. Russia, if youre listening, i hope youre able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. Does that not give you pause . No, gives me no pause. If they have them, they have them. I am who i am. Its me. I dont want to change it. Thats from the last couple of months since donald trump emerged from the primary season as the republican nominee. With all of that in mind, lets dive into the full extent of the crisis that this new Trump Campaign team is walking into. Again, with less than 90 days to go now. Brandnew polls out today. In three battleground states. The big news here, double digit leads for Hillary Clinton in virginia and colorado. These are two states that stayed republican all the way through 2004. Not just moving in the democratic direction, but breaking wide open for Hillary Clinton. This is consistent with our nbc news polls in the same states last week. Hillary clinton has a sizable advantage in both of these states. We talk about that divide all the time. College educated white voters. Her lead has exploded with College Educated white voters. It is a little closer in iowa. Again, thats something we also picked up on in our poll. One of the reasons there, thats a state where there are a lot more blue collar whites and president obama might have overperformed a bit with them in 2012. Iowa, hes still losing, but its by a narrow margin. Big picture, not good news for donald trump when youre a republican getting blown out in those two states. Check this out, you start with the question of party unity. You shouldnt be seeing a number like this right now if youre a republican nominee. 52 of republicans in our most recent poll, 52 saying theyre satisfied with trump as their nominee. This poll was taken as the republicans emerged from their convention. Youre supposed to emerge from your convention with unity, not with half the party saying no, im not satisfied with the candidate my party just nominated. Bigger problem for trump, though, look, we talk all the time, hes lucky that hes running against Hillary Clinton. Because Hillary Clinton has negative numbers of her own. She has that very high negative number on honesty, trustworthiness, on personal likabili likability. But here is what maybe the ultimate challenge that donald trump faces. It is on the question of tren temprament. This maybe a very basic threshold question. Less than onethird of voters right now look at donald trump and say, yeah, i could see him in the oval office from a temperamental standpoint. Heres one where she is clearly, clearly doing better than donald trump. More than double that 27 . A clear majority right now say Hillary Clinton has the temperamental to serve as president. That may be the single most important question right now in terms of separating Hillary Clinton from donald trump, why shes been able to open up these leads. We are looking alternate a brandnew Trump Campaign leadership team. We are covering the Trump Campaign from the very beginning. Cnbcs in washington. Been working. This is the new brain trust. Theyre calling the shots. What are they going to do. Whats going to be different . Reporter this is not the campaign realizing they need to return to a let donald trump be donald trump era. This is the candidate deciding he wants to return to allowing himself to be himself. Sources tell us hes been deeply unhappy the past few has been i he has wanted change. He feels he knows best and this is him embracing what he says is best for the campaign. Which is him being himself on the campaign trail. Kellyanne conway is somebody with with a good reputation and respected. There is good new when is it comes to her, and its a feeling of relief from republican strategists when they lk at her coming on board. She will be traveling with him and described as a calming reference and tell trump no if need be, and bannan is making folks nervous. I spoke to a source that bannan called a spoource and called th and told them he will not be telling him to go in another direction. He has taken up Donald Trumps mantles, and if he is following paul ryan, you will see breitbart news, that paul ryan is ending his career. He is taking up trumps causes, which is a conservative fire brand and made his name in the tea party. He is an outsider and doesnt agree with establishment principles. Somebody who pushes back. This shakeup in some ways is easing peoples minds because conway is somebody people like, but this makes people think donald trump will be pushing back against the rnc and republicans, democrats and the media. Donald trump versus the world. Katy tur outside trump tower. Thanks for that. Lets turn to john harwood in d. C. Lets stay on the point katy was talking about in terms of reaction from republicans. We put the poll numbers up there, and trump has a problem. In terms of his leadership, he has a problem of having the partys confidence to execute the campaign in a professional way. What are you hearing from republicans today . Katy ended h report by talking about trump against the world, and if you are talking about strategists, they dont have confidence in him. They are accelerating a move in the wrong direction, and trump is down in our monkey poll nine points nationally and large margins in swing states and republicans are beginning to worry that the undertoe from donald trump will take republicans who might be able to otherwise drag them down. Like pat too mamey, and racicha burr in North Carolina, and in missouri even. The senate is very much in danger, and in the house, its a more comfortable majority for republicans, but they are concerned about the collapse by trump, and i talked to one strategist who said their campaign is so far off the rails that i dont know anyone who would want to invest in the campaign. They are looking for donors to hold the house and senate concluding its very unlikely that donald trump can win the white house. John harwood in washington. Thanks for that. As john was speaking, you saw live pictures on the screen. Thats mike pence speaking in nevada. Just outside of las vegas. Were keeping an eye on that event. Im joined by two people who know the conservative landscape better than any. Hugh hewitt, and charlie sykes. Out the in wisconsin, wisconsin, where donald trump was last night. Wisconsin where donald trump had a lot of trouble with republicans in the primary. Like you, charlie sykes, you have been critical of donald trump. Looking at this report today, how do you feel about this . Does this give you more confidence in the direction of the donald Trump Campaign . No. Exactly the opposite. This is going to end badly. Remember that colorful phrase from the book, the right stuff, when somebody would make a mistake, it was called screwing the pooch. And this is doing that royally. Its taking the campaign in the wrong direction. He was in wisconsin last night, making a pitch for africanamerican voters, and then you wake up this morning and he is promoting the head of a website that has enabled and embraced the old right, White Nationalist white supremacist wing of the party. Breitbart is really the dark fever swamp of the conservative media, and unfortunately, this move is going to reinforce almost all the worst traits of this campaign, and i dont mean this debate. Hugh, i hope you understand what im about to say here. If donald trump was going to reach out the somebody in the media, if he had reached out to hugh hewlett instead of steve bann bannan, that would have helped a lot of conservatives. Saying, i want to be a grown up and be president ial and serious. Going with steve bannan tells me he wants to be around people who are his enablers and will ten him he is great and wonderful and he needs to do what he has been doing that have torpedoed his campaign so far. He is saying what katy tur is saying. Breitbart has been protrump and antiestablishme antiestablishment. Does it unnerve you . No. There are a lot of things to say there. One, its great to be on with charlie, and if wisconsin goes to donald trump, it will be because charlie makes peace with had im. Kellyanne conway has been my friend far long time. She is an extraordinarily gifted strategist, pollster and traveling with donald trump, that telegraphs that the message in milwaukee, which is a good message will be repeated and refined and focused. I dont know steve bannan. Im not a fan of breitbart. Andrew was my close friend, and i interviewed on the day he died, sadly. And i dont know mr. Bannan. I dont know if he is good. He is a navy officer, and a lot of people like him, and a lot of people dont. I know Kellyanne Conway. Thats good. There are three stories today. The nsa was hacked in a way thats critically damaging to the u. S. Security. Its a pearl harbor of cyberattacks. Etna dropped out in 15 states. Perilling a broken and dangerous experiment impairing the health of americans, and Hillary Clintons russian reset button worked to put russia resetting into iran for bombers. This is a disastrous day in obamas presidency. This is inconsistency, and insatiable desire for power. That does not seem like the media doing itsjob. We ought to be talking about how russia is in iran and syria, and the nsa is in the hands of our enemy. Its a bad day for obama and clinton. Thats the story to me. Go ahead, charlie. Thats whats so frustrating about this campaign. Hillary clinton is unelectable except that she is running against donald trump, and what donald trump manages to do is rather than focus on all of those stories that hugh listed, and every one of those is a legitimate and major story, donald trump has consistently basically, you know, stepped in it himself. Maybe because, you know, he is so absorbed with his own grudges and agenda. But im willing to blame the media for a lot of things sh but donald trump has been the a architect of almost all of his slipups. He is responsible for the fact that he has the ability to turn the focus on anything he wants to turn the focus on, and the fact were not talking about those things that hugh mentioned and really an indictment of the way that he has run the campaign since the convention. Thats something, whiff talked to republicans that has been said more than once. Donald trump is returning to this let trump be trump strategy. He feels it worked for him, and there was an authenticity that came through, and if you were just watching this as a spect e spectator over the last few months, havent wie seen donald trump be donald trump for the last few months . When you opened the show with the oi number. Were not going to win virginia. And were not going to win colorado, but iowa is competitive, and there may be a lot of shy torys in pennsylvania, and i had rob portman on my morning show. He is coasting and killing Ted Strickland who is falling apart. He has taken money from negative ads and he is coasting. He has done good stuff for lake e e er erie. I think the republicans are in good shape, and you say the hawk eye state hasnt been red in a long time, and it may be that kel kelly anne is the message. Im sure you spoke with her. She is ms. Message discipline, and thats a good 83 days ahead for messaging. You said, look, wisconsin, could go to donald trump if you made peace with donald trump. Is that possible . First of all, im not going to come around. Especially after what happened today. No matter what i say, he is not going to win in wisconsin. We got a look at him in the primary, and they are not buying it. He wins wisconsin when pigs fly, and they dont here in wisconsin. 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Nbc news confirmed he will be running ads in florida, ohio, North Carolina and pennsylvania. In pennsylvania, trump is leading by double digits, and more indicative of a future Trump Campaign strategy may be where they are not airing ads. Look at these states, colorado, iowa, nevada, New Hampshire and virginia. A state president bush won in 2000 and 2004. Republicans won that through the 60s. Lets bring in the panel. We have susan page, e. J. Deon, senior fellow at the brookings institution. All joining us from d. C. , and here in new york, susan dellers. Owe. We have a full panel. Let me start with you, susan. Putting up ads that he has got money now, and there were problems for a while. They have got some money, and we were wondering when the ads would go on the air. Is it too late . Its a big finally. We forge that early voting starts in ohio. Eight weeks from today, so we have to everyone looks that the election day is 12 weeks today, and it starts in eight weeks in a lot of early voting states. Thats important. The Clinton Campaign has been able to consistently burn their message, reinforcing what people think of donald trump. It is extremely difficult to change peoples opinions of someone versus reinforcing them. These have to go on and be significant and stay consistent. They cant go up for a couple of weeks and go down. This has to be consistent for election day. And outside of television advertising, from the Trump Campaign shakeup, what do you think . Is there going to be a different trump we see next week that we werent seeing last week because of this or the same thing . I think trump is trump in the same way that Hillary Clinton is Hillary Clinton. Hillary clinton is a very similar candidate to one we saw at the beginning of this campaign, and so is donald trump. These are human beings who are who they are. 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