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MSNBCW MTP Daily December 12, 2016

The russians are not our friends. They do not rich us well. The top pick for the diplomats. Why tactics on Climate Change has a lot of scientists on edge. This is mtpdaley and it starts now. Good evening. W to mtpdaley and we begin with a question of intelligence. What do you trust . The cia or fbi or congress or trump . The legitimacy of the election is on the line and right now it is chaos. Including russia tried to interference with the election to help trump. A congressional official confirmed the reports. The fbis conclusions are described as fuzzy and ambiguousuous according to the washington post. Thats inside the cia. Congress wants hearings and they have gone nuclear on every part of the story. They said intelligences a bunch of hacks. They are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass sdrugz. It is hard to remember who was doing the hacking. A former Senior Intelligence officer said that means they did just that. Park are im not sure they put it out. I think the democrats are putting it out because they suffered one of the greatest defeats in the history of toll ticks in the country. They a suggesting a historic experience like john who has been lying if are a top job. According to a source, he wants to know if the white house directed the hacks and not russia. Its not clear to me viewing this from the outside that the hacking into the dnc and the rnc computers was not a false flag operation. You accusing someone here in this administration or the Intelligence Community of trying to throw something . We just dont know. I believe intelligence has been politicized in the Obama Administration to a significant degree. A flurry of criticism in the comments. He said he has not concluded that they carried out the taxes and maybe it was an attempt to frame russia. The Top Republican Mitch Mcconnell held a press conference that there will be probed by at least two senate committees. He took a few not so subtle shots at trump. It defies belief that republicans in the senate are reluctant to review russian tactics or changed their mind on how they were going to vote as a result of these allegations of improper involvement with these Internet Communications on the part of the democrats . I dont know of a single voter who changed their mind one way or the other. That is a separate set of issues. We need to stop it. Put that to the side. You are right, there is no way to tell if it affected an individual voter and whether that changed the out come, yes, but if russia was able to get in, period. Is this not something that should be taken seriously as it is being taken . Absolutely. By the president elect and why would he not do so in the interest of the American Public and the democracy . Im quite confident that this administration will continue to do what we can to protect Internet Communications, but thats a blanket statement. Its one thing to have an advancement to create one set of protection. When donald trump is coming up and trying to under cut the Intelligence Community and saying they have no way of knowing even though they were in agreement even though russia was able to get in not necessarily whether they were able to effect an out come, but that they got in. Donald trump is not taking that seriously, now why do you have reason to believe he will take it seriously when he is actually inaugurated . Im quite confident that the cia and the department of Homeland Security and any number of agencies as part of a blanket order to protect Americas Communications will be active and will do so. Its in everybodys interest to make sure that our infrastructure is safe from being tampered with and that our power grid is not shut down and our Banking Systems are not penetrated with the kind of economic damage that can be done. In that context, we will use a broad brush to stuff all of this. The problem is technology and the leaps and bounds. As soon as you stop one attack, another is launched. Its a very difficult problem we will have to ruffle with. I have a high degree of confidence that with barack obama and the prior administration, we will deal with it. Hopefully we will take it a step further and as we start figuring out who the actors are and the damage we are doing to our economy or private communications, we will start acting in a fashion that goes beyond internet with trade sanctions or other weapon that we may have at our disposal to deter them from continuing to do what they are doing. This involves National Security. As you well know, the hackers and the state agencies have been trying to penetrate the military capability going to the defense contractors and trying to steal our technology that gives our National Defense a technological edge over the opposition. There are many, many motivations to protect the use of the internet involvement in the elections might be one. It should be one, but you have all these other things that indicate to me that will be a high priority in protecting the internet. It will be a high priority in this administration and this was the last administration. We will see if you were right about this. Thank you so much for joining me. Coming up, why the friendship between russia and Donald Trumps top pick for secretary of state is concern for both sides of the aisle. Stay tuned. The real gift isnt whats inside the box. Its whats inside the person who opens it. Give ancestrydna, the simple dna test that can reveal their ethnic origins. Order now at ancestrydna. Com and save 10 . Youthats why you drink ensure. Sidelined. With 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. For the strength and energy to get back to doing. What you love. Ensure. Always be you. He wears his army hat, he gets awalks aroundliments. With his army shirt looking all nice. 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Chaching talking about getting that moneeeey talking about getting that moneeeey savings worth the hype. Now thats progressive. Welcome back to m trmtp dai the trump transitions pick for secretary of state is midweek. Tillerson could have a tough confirmation fight ahead of him. He is rolling ties to russia and putin and even honoring the friendship honor in 2013 and has been critical on russia. Some republicans are wary of those ties including senators john mccain, Lindsay Graham and marco rubio. He is concerned about tillersons relationship with putin. Putin is a murder and kgb guy who wants to restore the russian empire. When he gets the friendship award from a butcher, frankly its an issue that i think needs to be examined. Senator graham called tillersons ties to putin unnerving and asked the chief of staff Reince Priebus about concerns some have about tillersons previous dealings with putin. Do you understand why that would unnerve some people about the idea of him as americas chief diplomat . It might unnerve people who think the best route for the country to go is to ignore people and have an enemy and adhere to the list. Look, i dont believe that if solving the worlds biggest problems are best done by ignoring people and having crummy relationships across the globe. We just dont believe that talking to people and having relationships is a bad thing. Let me bring in tonights panel. The president of the partnership for conservative principals. The senior washington correspondent and coauthor of playboo playbooks. I was speaking with a former cia official and they said they could not believe this russia hacking news did not get more in the summer. They are glad to see they are getting more play now. How big is this and what are the consequences they get down the line . Its in part because they saw they will have a Community Hearing and that is based front and center in washington. The disagreement between connell and donald trump was on display and you will see that in the months to come. You were saying earlier you believe this is political to a degree as the transition is claiming it is . Absolutely. Its serious and its not shocking and the russians have been doing this for decades. They are very interested in investigating russian hacking. They are trying to undermine the election on donald trump and lets be clear. Was there a possibility that the russians who were involved in trying to manipulate the Election Results . Absolutely. Did they decide the election . Of course not. Even if its unclear about whether they were trying to tip the scales, the fact that the russians were involve side, period, were able to get into the system is that not something given that there is bipartisan support for investigation that donald trump, the president elect should be taking seriously to show the American Public that he has their interests and the democracys interest in mind over his own . Whats shocking is that the Republican Party hangs its hat on National Security and being reaganlike. Ronald reagan fought the soviets and the russians. Now here we are with the president of the United States making excuses for why we should not investigate the russian hack on american democracy. To me i find that there cant be a double standard. I am not defending trump, you are interested in investigating the russians . They have been hacking the systems and they can be conducting the spy . This has been very weak. Lets be very clear. The only people who had emails released were members of the democratic party. This is onesided. Im not saying were trying to tip the scales. I dont know that. They believed to a high degree of confidence that that is the case, but perceptionwise. Democrats were the only ones who had emails released. Do you believe if its political now, dont you have to believe it was political in the campaign . I agree and i think donald trump should expect the possibility that the russians got involved and hacked for political reasons the server . And there should be an investigation. Its a visceral reaction from donald trump. Its not a great reaction. I agree with you and there should be an investigation. At the same time to be fair on the other side they are trying to make this a political issue. Today or yesterday, we had the cia director say saying that this is the equivalent of 9 11. Thats a political statement. They did the work for the Bush Administration as well. The campaigns believe that Hillary Clinton did not believe in donald trump. He is not the most liberal person when it comes to politics. Moving on, so far trumps cabinet picks and the folks he has chosen have railed the administration they are being a pointed to you have scott pruitt and et cetera, etc. Does this mean that the administration will be trying to pair apart the posts and rebuild a new framework. Should we expect to see them get in line with the stated priorities of the post. Some republicans wondered if the positions were maybe the positions of agencies that are a big priority to trump and maybe they wont be effective. You see him with general mattis who will be an effective leader. Suing the epa as we speak. One of the things i heard a lot of from the career officials. Do you want to stay in this position because they will not fill my position or do i leave as a protest movement . This is something we see shake out in the coming months. The federal minimum wage and he has been critical of the offices and services that helped for housing. It seems like one after another that that could be the case that they will try to fix those that undermine the authority. It may be asking a question about whether or not he has to say. The president s Counter Terrorism adviser does not have the ability to make the transition. What if we still dont have the person in place. She doesnt have the same staff for president. We have a president elect who is going to be the captain of our team and is going to more pep rallies than practices. He is not taking intelligence briefings. He is supposed to protect the country. We will come back later in the hour. I promise. Stay with us. Still ahead, donald trump has climate questions for the Energy Department and why they are worried the trump teams latest move can lead to witch hunts. Keep it here. Why pause a spontaneous moment . Cialis for daily use treats ed and the urinary symptoms of bph. 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Its unclear how they say they plan to use the information, but reuters spoke with a staffer who said it feels like the first draff of a potential enemies list. Just to make room for witch hunts. Paul is a professor of environmental history at yale university. Lets get into this. How unusual is it for a Transition Team to ask for a questionnaire like this . Look, every Transition Team has to collect information on the agency they will help run, but to gather specific information on employees and Research Scientists and Civil Service employees who are doing the job 20 protect the climate, thats quite unprecedented. I cant think of an example quite like it myself. Lets talk about the short list for energy secretary. That includes rick perry who famously proposed eliminating the department of energy. At the same time he couldnt remember the department of energys name during the debate. Can you speak about the consequences of eliminating the department and why does it matter that it exists . The Energy Department has a number of important responsibilities. Principally came out of the responsibility for atomic power and nuclear weapons. It evolved to have a greater mandate to also address issues Like Clean Energy and renewable fuel vehicles and a lot of basic research as well as commercialization projects that are trying to

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