Good evening, im katie turr, President Trump is going to vietnam, Michael Cohen is going to the hill and were heading into what could be one of the most consequential weeks of the presidency. Michaels three day marathon begins dorm. What he has to say going on behind closed doors, this is a man that worked for donald trump for more than a decade, he says donald trump directed him to make hush money payments in the campaign and admitted to lying to congress. Michael cohen agreed to testify, including mr. Trumps finances, and you Better Believe that open hearing on wednesday will be must see tv. All of this is happening while they wait for muellers report, they say they will go to court if they have to. Are you prepared to take this to court . Absolutely, if the president is serious about his claims of exoneration we will move forward. Jake sherman is joining me tonight, author of the political playbook. Nick conficori and susan de del persio. All of the action on the hill this week, cohen has three hearings, public ones on wednesday, we can put up on the screen the topics expected to be covered, russia is not one of them. Wednesday is the House Oversight committee which is the most unruly of all of the house committees and it is filled, most importantly, we kind of know the contours of what will go on. Democrats will do what they want today do for many mondays when it comes to this investigation, but watch for what the republicans in this committee will do, it will include mark meadows and two of the biggest defenders. Today they sent a letter to the chairman of the committee saying they want Rod Rosenstein to come and talk about how dishonest he is. Youre seaing the contours of the hearing break out and the politics that trumps defender wills try. I know that russia has been on the top of everybodys mind, i presume some of those will be asked in private, but what in public do they want to get out of Michael Cohen, jake . I think this is someone with a toronto row seat to Donald Trumps life. Expect democrats to have, to be well scripted. I dont think youre going to see democrats all over the place. Elisjah cummings is smooth and start and they will make sure that the democrats are tight. You dont get many opportunities to grill someone on Live Television that is going to prison. Lets not forget this is Michael Cohen trying to rewrite his history. He said a woman could not be ra raped by her husband. He is going to rewrite it. Does that undermine is credit snblt. Yeah, questions like did you send someone to intimidate Stormy Daniels . Do you remember that claim she made. Are you aware of any illegaltiviillegal activity by any of the children, i think he is looking to say as much as possible, just details of the business and the ongoings of the family. He has nothing to gain in a legal sense i think from lying to the committee in public. He has a lot to lose, but in that sense i think his credibility will resound with a certain audience that already wants to disbelieve him. This will be among the biggest moments. We had people turn on the president , testify against him we have not had someone to close to him able to tell us things that the president said in his own words. And they have tapes to back it up. We have tapes. Well see if he has more tapes down the line, the president and his team have done everything they can to make him look like a opportunist and a liar. It is up to the trier of fact. It is not a political soundbyte. They come to the witness stand. I dont disagree with your analysis at all. Lets talk about the other big part of the news this week and the news that could be coming next week and that in the weeks to come. That is the Mueller Report. The doj rules that govern a special council. Then it is up to the attorney general to decide whether or not how much Congress Sees and whether or not we see anything here today. The democrats say they will sue if they need to, they will subpoena bob mueller, in the cfr it says the special council will deliver the report confidentially to the attorney general. The regulations say it is in the attorney generals discretion how much to release to congress or the public. That is a starting point. The democrats are a little aggressive, a little out in front because we dont know what decision is being made yet. Well see, but i dont disagree that there should be transparency. We have been waiting for a long long time to see the results. Many experts say one way or the oe other it will be public. Neil who helped write the rules on meet the press, here is what he said would happen. Theyre protection is like 60 grand jury protections. The republicans pierced all of that stuff. They turned over fast and furious information, and there will be a lot more pressure on mueller. The democrats really want to see this report. They want to see anything they can from this report because they want a e full picture of what theyre dealing with beyond subpoenaing what else is at their disposal . There is a lot of political tools they could use. The attorney general needs money for his budget. He needs money for the hearings throughout the year. They have to come up or they have to compel them to come up, but they could throw questions at them in public and increase the political pressure on him. It is harkenning back to these hearings and when thinking about mueller, congress is a political institution, this is no court of law, the rules are different and the dynamics are ditcfferent, a we have to keep that in mind. When the Mueller Report comes out we have to remember these are political exercises and shows. Impeachment is a political exercise and it doesnt have to meet the standard of what a criminal indictment would be. Rod rosenstein was talking today about the guidance he always gave his court and we have no business making allegations against american citizens. Were going to get into that, does that mean if theyre not prepared to prove that donald trump or folks on his campaign committed a crime they should not say anything at all . It is possible. Historically d. O. J. Has been very care ffuled in their prosecutions. I think they will be extraordinarily careful of their application of the facts, and everything around this Mueller Report is a ket of question marks within question marks. We dont know how narrowly or broadly she, and were not sure hour barr construes his responsibility to the rest of us, for what is good for the democrats. It could be something of a nothing burger and it would help the president to have it released. If he doesnt release it, if he doesnt say release this report or as much as you can, does that mean that nestle he has something to hide . Maybe well see that he will start going after certain people. Trying to discredit and muddy the waters. To nicks point we have no idea how this report is going to be presented. A lot of folks, myself included, put a lot of faith in seeiaying mu mueller is a man of integrity and there is nothing to pursuit. Lets talk about what Justice Department envisioned. When youre talking about an investigation into a president that maybe he cant be diindict, but maybe he could be impeached. It doesnt necessarily mean that it is true. But that could be im not suggesting that mueller would go ahead and indict a sitting president , but it be moves hoov when people say it cant be done. And they dont get you relief in court. In reality this is a big double edged sword here. Politically if it is perceived the report is going one direction and everybody is for transparency and openness, then they will pivot like a ballplayer if they perceive it is in reverse. So for me as a lawyer, i have been doing it 33 years and it is funny to watch that process. So you are so right, you dont know what is in there yet. Everybody is pivoting. If you dont if youre going to have an American Public that will put on it whatever their impressions of the investigation have been so far, whatever they want the investigation to be, isnt that an argument for william barr to make it as public as possible . I think it is a reasonable argument that special council has not found evidence of offenses that would be dietble indictable. Counter to that, but the counter to that is democrats will say if there are things we would impeach him for, we want that information. And he has other things to be referred to other districts. The report may or may not he is releasing a lot of what you would call speaking indictments. Should we expect to see another one . Has it given democrats the road map they need . That is a great point and i want to amplify what you worked in about hillary clinton. James comey committed the cardinal sin from a straight cross cue tor yal crime. They did fact a, b, and c. And everybody in politics says wow, you dont do that. Legally, but to your point, given the thurst, it is hard to say to the extend of what aep speaking indictment presentation. We will see, it will come at some point, guys. Doug burns, thank you very much, nick and susan, youre saying with us. Ahead how much of the Mueller Report will we see . Were going to continue with that conversation and talk to a democrat that is pushing for as much as possible. And hollywood drama. Why it made donald trump unhappy. Drama why it made donald trump unhappy. 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Welcome back, that was jim hoo hymes arguing that every american needs to know the extent of russian interference. And for many the only way to know is to make the special report public. David cicilini wants to make it public. Absolutely, this is a two year investigation that resulted in 199 criminal charges against 39 individuals and organizations. Four convictions and people are going to prison. It was far theed on behalf of the American People and they have the right to see the conclusions on it it is very important to see the results of this special investigation. It is not your decision, it is the attorney generals decision, what will you do to try to wrestle back control. Were introducing education that will require more to be made public. We can also bring mr. Mueller or others before the Judiciary Committee and subpoena the report, that might result in litigation but were prepared to do that. I think there is real consensus that the American People have a right to see this report and we will do everything we can to make sure they can see it legislatively, through the court system, through the subpoena process, we have a responsibility to make sure this investigation done on behalf of the American People will be shared with the American People. Will it surround the secrecy of grand judries, what will you get out of the report, it would mean a lot of redactions. It is certainly important for oversight to have the results of this investigation. Many people arguing it may be the only response to the misconduct that mr. Mueller found will be an impeachment proceeding. We wont know that until we see the report and see the findings that he made and the interviews he conducted and the information that he has collected. Im concerned because he has some discretion in this area. Mr. Barr would not commit to sharing this with congress or the American People. This is an important investigation. We have a right to know what happened in the attack by the rub sh russians, but seeing the result of this investigation is really the beginning of congresss work. There is millions of people that will aagree with you on that point, but what sort of argument will overcome the rules that surround the appointment of a special council. We have oversight responsibilities, subpoena power, we have the right to bring and collect evidence to discharge our constitutional duty to do oversight. I think we have many, many arguments that would compel this, there are claims made with executive privilege. Some of that may be waived. It would have to be limited, but democrats are prepared to do everything we can, to fight as hard as we can through the courts, the court of public opinion, until the American People get the truth and get to see the results of this investigation. Are you turned putting Robert Mueller before court would be to political . No, i think he conducted the investigation with extraordinary indeg integri integrity. He will deliver the facts as he found them in a useful way for the committee and the American People. Let me play Rod Rosenstein today talking about transparency. It can be misleading if youre overly transparent about information the government collects. I think we need to be cautious about that. What do you make of that warning. I think we always have to be careful when we collect information. We have the responsibility to assess the credibility, vor ras voracity and weight of the evidence. That is an excuse not to share with congress or the American People what you uncovered in this investigation. How do you convince those not on your side, not democrats, that dont necessarily believe in the investigation that that what youre doing is not political and is necessary. How do you try to find a way to bring those doubters over to your side . This is an incredible challenge if has been so difficult for me to understand that this was an attack on our country, on our democracy, it should not be republican or democraticic issue. And that is why i think you see that the American People believe in the investigation, i think history will judge my harshly. But hoping they will understand that what is at stake is the integrity of our democracy, the security of our elections, and see the work of the special council in the next two years to say can prevent it from happening again, but for holding the individuals actable that may have engaged in misconduct. So whether or not the stone indictment is the last indictment that we will see, and your colleague said we believe there will be other indictments, who are those people . I dont know if this is the last committee, we have many questions from a number of witness witnesses. Does he know more than you do . He may have information they dont have. So people who testified falsely will be held accountable. So not having this report furnished to us will impede that responsibility. I think a lot of folks out there would like to see the entire report in full, congressman, im not going out on a limb with that im sure. Thank you for joining us. Ahead the summit part two. President trump and kim john u. N. Meeting fate to face. Meet. Woman this is your wakeup call. If you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. Ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. Humira can help stop the clock. Prescribed for 15 years, humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contributes to joint pain and irreversible damage. Vo humira can lower your ability to fight infections. 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