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MSNBCW MTP Daily December 24, 2019

Iowa. Weve seen them barn storm the hawkeye state. That lhello eyiowa . Hello iowa hello iowa after the Iowa Caucuses of course comes the New Hampshire primary and then the 1 2 1nevad caucus cuss and then the four fights in february and all four could fooit decide tdecide the primary. D democrats say buttigieg could win iowa, warren wins New Hampshire, and then there is this guy Michael Bloomberg, he is all in on the super tuesday strategy. So he isnt factoring into this just yet. So this contest could be a wild one in february and beyond, which iss is why well take a l at the early state contests. And also Steve Kornacki and the big board. And remember, there is actually four hurdles in order to sort of get democrats to understand the pieces of the electorate they need, whether midwesterners in iowa learning how do grass roots stuff, appealing to independents in New Hampshire, latinos in nevada, africanamericans in South Carolina. So when you think about the first four states, dont assume that they are just randomly on a man omanp. There is reason to it. Welcome to my panel. There is a desperation to create a set of rules to appease National Democrats that this will be a much more open process, much more diverse process and they have done so much with it, that it is possible that we have two different winners on caucus night. Because they will attraction delegates and turnout. And how confusing is all this going to be . It may be very con gusing or there could be a really significant result if one of these candidates sprints out ahead of the rest of the pack. There will be delegate decisions released first. And then we will see the raw vote totals from the first alignment where people go into parts of the room and support a candidate and a group. And then well see this second raw vote total if there is a realignment on the second round of voting. So actually to complicate things farther, there could be three victors. And here we are, were in late december, and there is a new guy that no one ever heard of, mayor pete, who is ahead. Youve done this for a while. Pete buttigieg, is he howard dean or barack obama . We dont yet know that. But he has been laying the ground work in iowa for quite some time. He was here 27 months ago for his first swing through the state. That is when he was trying to become the chairman of the Democratic National committee. Ive had people who work on other campaigns say, gosh, we wish he were the chairman, we wouldnt be dealing with him now. He is a prolific fundraiser. But as you mentioned, you dont want to peak too early. So all eyes in the last bit of december have been focused on one of iowas neighbors, ethey liked barack obama in 2008, they liked dick gephardt, but this time they are looking at Amy Klobuchar and she has visited each of their counties. And funny about her, the person in this role was a guy named john edwards. Even said we really like him, but he hadnt bumped yet. But got the Des Moines Register endorsement. And i do think that edwards carry would have been a much more procetracted fight becausee did catch fire and basically missed winning it by a hair. So clocklobuchar, does she havet potential . I think in the debate you saw that she did go up against mayor pete. She had more time because there were fewer dicandidates on stag to present herself with a bit of humor thrown in. And that is really working for her on the Campaign Stage here in iowa. The other thing is she has been staffing up. She has been raising more money, so she is able to hire more people. She has hired key people from the beto campaign, she has hired people in from other states. So i think that she is the one to watch at this point. And very quickly, impeachment, is it just background noise or does it have is it a motivating factor or just that it is . I think the real impact of impeachment on this race will be it could stall candidates like klobuchar and booker and warn w warren who will be stuck in washington, d. C. At an impeachment style. And on turnout, highest was 08. Pretty big turnout in 16 even. That got to about 170. Will this top 08, will it get it 250,000 . It is hard to say that right now. Ive been trying to Pay Attention to the Voter Registration numberings in iowa, and i dont see an up stick in Voter Registration yet. My suspicion is campaigns likes Warren Campaign and Buttigieg Campaign are holding on to their voters and we will see the result on caucus night. All right. Kay henderson, well see you in iowa. And well get the impeachment trial out of the way and get there. Lets get to the panel. Eugene, you know, every four year, people try to say maybe iowa wont matter as of this time. And yet here we are again. The person that wins this first, whether it is biden or buttigieg, it will matter. Absolutely. And for a few reasons. Midwestern voters matter and they really matter when you have candidates competing for the white house whose brand is im a midwestern and that is what america needs, someone who is mild mannered, who is a unifier and can Pay Attention to people who arent like them give them the attention that they need and know that i actually have solutions for their concerns. One thing that is interesting, there has been conversation about maybe iowa not needing to be first because there is so much emphasis on diversitdivers. But ive done some reporting and read how many iowa voters actually are mindful of diversity issues. And it really pushes back on the idea that diversity is only a concern if you are a woman, a person of color, some type of a minority. And were seeing a lot of white people say that we want to get behind someone that there is evidence that white democrats are more sensitive on race issues sometimes than nonwhite democrats on certain things that you would think that the stereotype would be the other way. Topics like criminal just tuesday reform, you are seeing white liberals addressing issues in ways that you would assume that black people working class people are taking the lead in. And that is just not what everything support s. Is iowa playing the role you hoped it would . Yeah, and i think to the point that you just made, there was a big New York Times story that ran recently that talked about the fact thats with a caucusgoers are very mindful to do their part to not only pick someone who they think will do well in states that are not almost entirely white states, but also someone who can do well and potentially be the nominee for the entire democratic party. So i do think that in that sense thats what is doing is doing its job there. And also at the same time, i do think that the person who wins iowa, because there has been such a mix in terms of frontrunners in this election, i think that the 3er7b who wperso will matter more so than in 2016 and possibly more in unless you get a result where it is so close that two people can claim victory. And i have a very contrarian view. Good. I dont think thats what is as important as it used to be. I dont think that it will play the role that lot of people think that it will. There is external and internal dynamics. And if iowans were so concerned about the diversity piece, where is kamala harris, where is cory booker,is ruljulian castro. So it is a good talking point, but at the end of the day, iowa voters will do what they do. And you made an interesting point, it is not lost on me that if you look at the last series of successful Democratic Candidates to become president , they have been mid westerner or southerners and it is this sort of trying to be overly appealing, you know, that a you want to call it. And there is something aboklobur and barack obama, he won every state but two that touched illinois. And this is a very policy arrived debate and everyone has ideas. But there are multiple voters who will still measure their support by can i get coffee with you. And people who are and neighboring states extend to know how to connect to people who live around the corner. All right. Well take a break. Well travel from iowa and take a nonstop to manchester. So up next, it is New Hampshire. The Granite State has a history of not agreeing with iowa and even a second place finish there can be a game changer like it was for bill clinton. 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And this year Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders has the nearby advantages. But it does not mean a lock on the nomination. Joining me now is a professor Political Science and one of my goto guys. Happy primary season. I want to ask you questions, just who has the best natural constituency in New Hampshire of the two neighbors, warren or sanders . I think that right now it is Bernie Sanders. By virtue of being on the ballot four years ago, and also so far i think that sanders is showing a better job of attracting a coalition of voters in New Hampshire including young people still, progressive voters and even White Working Class voters who still vote with the democratic party. Whereas Elizabeth Warren so far is in something of a box right now. Shes found a niche among the progressive well educated voters, but shes having trouble breaking out of that. The rising number of residents that live in southern New Hampshire, is that net positive or net negative for her . I think that that is a net negative. Im watching voters maybe half an hour from the border. They live in affluent towns. And often they lean republican, but they might be undeclared voters, they are two income, College Educated families. And they will tend toward moderati moderation. They may not like President Trump at all, brut they wont b eager to vote for the socalled radical progressive democrat. So they might be looking at a moderate democrat, whether biden, klobuchar or Pete Buttigieg. And that brings me to the other unique test that New Hampshire brings and why it is such when you put it in as one of the first four hurdles that you have to clear, it is a good one and that is winning over independents. Winning over the undeclared voters and possibly even republicans who decide to vote in the democratic primary. Have you seen much evidence of them actively trying to appeal to that voter . Door contacts or maybe looking for republicans for buttigieg or things like that . I havent seen republicans for buttigieg, but you are certainly seeing mayor pete with a ground game that has been developing for months now. And keep in mind that there is a republican primary, but no one expects to be competitive. So i expect record turnout. There could be as many as 300,000 voters next february. 08, we had two. So you expect it higher . Yeah, on the democratic side. Around 300,000. So there is a lot of voters who are going to show up who are just tuning in right now. And they could be eager to vote for the new kid on the block. And if Pete Buttigieg succeeds in iowa, he comes here with momentum, he could very well go 2 for 2 for the first two contests. So there is a fifth candidate that lot of us think that could pull this off, do the slingshot. Pull the rick santorum, where they didnt campaign anywhere else but there, and that is Amy Klobuchar. If she pulls that off, gets that momentum, give me the sense of her operation. Is it too little too late or could it super charge her to get a top three . Yeah, i think an iowa upset for klobuchar could yeed dividends here in in which in that. She has been here quite a lot. She is up on the air right now which is not true of say joe biden. So she has a decent operation here. Which it could translate among former Hillary Clinton voters. Women th women in their 40s, 50s. They would find Amy Klobuchar a nice fit for the white house. And weve barely mentioned biden. He has a finance issue. So he is focusing his energies on iowa and South Carolina. Do you get the sense that they know they are not wing New Hampshire and that is why they have awing New Hampshire and that is why they have a light touch . John kerry endorsed job and i think that biden will try to take a page out of kerrys play book. Remember kerry won New Hampshire after surprising. And i think that biden hopes to do the same. And then see a lot of New Hampshire democrats say okay, i guess it is biden. 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