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MSNBCW MTP Daily May 5, 2020

Even as the National Crisis rages on and is getting worse. Vice president pence confirmed the news. He said it could be disbanded with federal agencies going back to their old roles by memorial day. It sort of fits with this belief inside the white house that somehow june 1st is going to be a moment where this is a little more in the past. We shall see. A will the of questions about that. Right now President Trump is in arizona where he is touting the administrations response to the crisis and he confirmed hes looking to end the task as well and form a new group as he focuses on roping the economy. This is his first real trip into the public outside of washington since march 28th. He did send off the uss comfort up to new york in norfolk. Thats been about it. The president down played models that show a significant spike in deaths as states begin to reopen. Dr. Fauci is warning of a rebound if states are not careful but president said he would not let fauci testify before house republicans. He will let him testify before republican lead committees. The president s attempts to shift attention towards reopening comes amid so many warning signs that the u. S. Is not fully prepared for a Public Health stand point to safely do this. The curve of new cases in new york may be going down but the problem everywhere else its not going down. New york. Thats a downhill trajectory. Everywhere else, not so much. Look at the fact that testing is still an issue in so many parts of this country which raises the country into whether the and his allies will try to minimize the warning, choosing to refrain the debate kind of like the president s pal Chris Christie is doing suggesting that reopening the economy is not about safety. Its actually about sacrifice. Will people be able to swallow the notion if these projections are right of nearly 3,000 deaths a day. Theyre going to have to. What should the message be . The message has gone through significant death before. Weve gone through it in world war i, world war ii. We have gone through it and we have survivored it. We sack firificed in the live ie same way we have to stand up for the american way of life. Wow. Were going to endure this. Comparing keeping the economy going to the american way of life. Weve got full coverage from our nbc news team joining me now from the white house. Im going to start with vaughn because thats where the traveling white house is. Arizona, highest daily death toll reported yet. Here is the president talking about disbanding the task force. He was there to tour honeywell. What else have you seen . Reporter exactly. He was in route here this morning. There was news from the state of arizona that the highest single death toll took place yesterday. 33 arizonans. You continue to see last week more than 1300 positive cases. Depiet the 20103 degree temperature the cases spread. He just took part in a round table with native american leaders. He was asked about that disbanding of the Coronavirus Task force and he said that its time to look toward a new group. Exactly what that knew group looks like is still unclear. At the same time, i want to read a quote. This was about 60 seconds ago. The president said quote, im viewing our great citizens of this country as warriors. We cant keep our country closed. We have to open our country. He repeated the people of our country are warriors. Will some people be affected. Yes. We have to get our country open and get it open soon. He is here in arizona. You saw him come down the stairs of air force one without a mask on. Hes taking part in this session without a mask. He is being bet by the republican governor who just yesterday announced by the end of this week, retail here in the state will mostly be open. On monday in dining sfe ining s will open as well. In february, the president was asked about the spread of covid19 through china. At the time he thought by april with warmer weather that you would see the virus go away. Were here in may. The temperature has been over 100 degrees for more than a week and the president is here for a reason. That is the fact that covid continues to spread throughout the country. Chuck. Kicking us off. Lets go back to the 18 acres there of the white house that hans is standing in. In some ways, this feels about the third or fourth attempt the president has made to disband the task force. Its pretty clear he wants to move, at least, perception, that there is no this is not about fighting the virus. Its about reopening the economy. He wants to push the virus into the rear view mirror. I dont know if the virus will cooperate. Reporter hes talk about the task in the past tense. Hes saying it has done an excellent job. He want to have something more focused on the economy. The officials that im talking to are making it very clear that dr. Birx will play a key and important role. Dr. Fauci will be at the white house. The conversations they had been having at the Task Force Level led my mike pence sometimes attended by the president before we had those briefings will be pushed further down to the agencies. Thats just the phase that they think, at the white house, that they are at at this point. They want focus on the economics of this because no one doubts inside the white house that the jobs number that were going to get on friday is going to be shocking. Were hearing more of that from the president. You also heard the president while doing a victory lap on vent lat vent lart, hes suggesting they will be in similar place on testing. White house has changed their message on that. Well see. I want the play one other thing that president said and get you to react it to it. It had to do with Anthony Fauci testifying on capitol hill. The house is a bunch of trump haters. They put every trump hater on the committee. The same old stuff. They frankly want our situation to be unsuccessful, which means death. Which means death. The house should be ashamed of themselves. Frankly, the democrats should be ashamed. They dont want us to succeed. They want us to fail so they can win an election, which theyre not going to win. They want us think of it. They do everything they can to make things as bad as possible. Hans, i know its no longer you shouldnt be shocked when you hear this president assume that americans hate the country and bizarre things like that. Really awful things to say about fellow americans on this front. The fact of the matter is, as hes accusing the democrats of trying to politicize oversight, hes doing it right here by refusing the actions and its hard not to ask, what you afraid of if youve done nothing wrong. Reporter oversight on all the money thats been shoveled out the door. You and i was here for the Obama Administration flp was a great deal of concern about how much 878 billion would be spent in that 2009 stimulus. Were talk about 3 trillion, maybe north and this has been shovered out very quickly. You can expect congressional oversight. It is a unique and pair of constitutional approach to cay youll only cooperate with Senate Oversight because the house is controlled by the opposition party. Thats not how the constitution works. The president s comments there sort of on questioning the motives of democrats reminded me of the late february rhetoric when he was talk about how democrats were talking about the entire coronavirus and the administration response. Thats when he would use the hoax phrase. Then they had some bipartisan and they got a will the of stuff done. A lot of stimulus out the door. Now it seems like hes shifting more towards an antagonistic posture. Chuck. Always try to find somebody else to blame, somebody else to beat up. Perhaps well see. This oversight story will get trickier. Lets go to why. Geoff bennett you have been digging into this whistleblower. What began as him saying ive been dmoemoted over politics. I was shoved out of this job over the hydroxychloriquine ente. Then he paint a much more damning response. Reporter he paint a picture on inaction and negligence on the part of the trump administration. Lawyers for him say that case is made plain and simple. From 2016 until a couple of weeks ago was the head of the Government Agency that is invested in Vaccine Research and development for Infectious Disease outbreak. He said he was pushed out of his job. Reassign tods a lesser role at a Different Agency bauds he pushed for a more thorough vetting. 89 pages. Its dense and detailed. We have been dissecting it and distilling it. One of the remarkable things is we have seen part of what rick bright alleges in public from the president s own mouth in those old Coronavirus Task force briefings. We saw him embracing it as a coronavirus miracle drug. Dr. Bright says behind the scenes there was this effort by some of the political apopointes to push millions of pills to new jersey and new york. Despite the fact there was no scientific effect to say they were effective and he resisted it because of the science that was not there. He was also concerned about safety issues coming from the factories where they were made. He talks about how he raised red flags about the lack of medical masks which is interesting because President Trump is at a plant where they are trying to ramp up production of those masks. Back in january 21st, he raised issue about that. Fell on deaf ear. Tries to raise alarm about the limited supply of remdisivir thats a medical treatment shown to be effective in coronavirus. He alleges that the politics were promoted above science. He is set to appear before House Committee next thursday and the remedy that he is seeking is he wants his old job back. He wants to be fully reinstated. Chuck. Geoff bennett with an excellent job of taking what was a very, very extensive whistleblower complaint and you condensed it down extraordinarily well for the viewers there. Kudos on that. That sets up quite the testimony we will see next week on that front. Thank you all for getting us started. Lets get more on this medical perspective on the models and what were facing this next month. Are you concerned that politics is basically beating science here inside the white house . I think its been politicized by the beginning. Its not been characterized by daily cdc briefings. Its not surprising that politics will continue to dominate how this response continues as this pandemic winds on. There consensus is that it seems like everybody in the medical community on this front believes the next month will be worse, not better because of all these reopenings. Is that your best scientific guess too because of all of this states that are doing these partial reopenings . Definitely. Any time you have people interacting, the virus hasnt gone away. The virus hasnt changed its behavior. Youll get more death. You have to make a decision regarding what we want to do Going Forward. Its been about hospital capaci capacity. There are some hot spot wes worry about. Now next thing is learning to live with the virus and figure out what the best social distancing to do Going Forward will be. The virus wont be tamed until we have a vaccine. This has to be something we think about Going Forward and come up with proper guidance for people to be able to be as safe as they can be knowing well get deaths as we see people interacting. We have Hospital Capacity. How do you keep Hospital Capacity and reopen the economy . Or is it like you literally open the door a bit and you open the door a little bit . Exactly. You have to peel back some of the social distancing measures and take a look and see. Whats happening opinion are our hospitals okay. Are Health Departments able to do Contact Tracing. You continue to do that until you hit a tweet spot where youre not worried about the hospitals and you have some degree of economic activity. That has to be done in a measured way and data driven and you cant be hasty about it and expect to have no consequences. Hopefully this will be done in many places Going Forward in that manner so we dont have to go back. I think that would be more disasterous if you open something and close it. Thats more disruptive to businesses and the public. As new york slows, so goes the virus. If you day care the tristate area out of this, we havent bent the curve. The curve you could argue maybe its flat or back riding again. Maybe were misleading public because of the new york success story. Thoughts. Everything is not on the same time scale. There are states that are in different parts of their epidemic curve. Some places may not have peaked. Some have increasing cases. You really have to look at local data, local Hospital Capacity and local Testing Capacity to make these decisions. Were going to see places, maybe run into trouble. Maybe some places are not going to run into trouble. I think thats why with have to not give this impression that all of a sudden, all 50 states will be open. Its going to be driven by locals. In states and certain counties are better than other counties. Thats what youre seeing governors do come up with plans and i think thats the best way to go about this as we move forward. Do you think the governor should give up on the fed nationalizing any part of this . I think there hasnt been federal leadership from the beginning and i dont think theres going to be federal leadership. This will be up to individual governors and the governors will be the ones responsible for this. Its important they feel empowered and they have the best Public Health experts advising them on how to go forward. Not rely on the federal government for much more than an oversight coordination role thats really not going to be that visible. Thanks for sharing your expertise with us today. Much appreciated. Up ahead, the senates first full day back on capitol hill. Youre asking what happened today. Youre asking the wrong question. What didnt happen. Im talking to the president a Major University planning to bring his students back in the fall. Is it too soon. 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On the day the covid19 death toll, the senate held no hearings, took up no significant legislation to address the virus but theyre here. Garrett is live on capitol hill covering them. Look, im familiar with the ways of washington and i know this was just a Senate Business day, but i have to say were in middle of all this. It felt, again, dni confirmation hearing is important. Dont get my wrong. It doesnt feel like the top issue. Reporter no. They had one full workday between yesterday and today. The senate took no votes today. While there were two Committee Hearings today, one of those was a hybrids hearing. Only five attended in person. Mitch mcconnell argued the senate had to come back because they are essential but they are not doing a good job of making themgss look essential. Were hearing more about what House Democrats are planning to put into a relief they might try to get to the floor as early as next week than what Senate Republicans are wanting to do in terms of what theyre vision of a relief bill would be. They are pretty far apart. The negotiations are not something thats in the air either. It does not feel like theres an urgent effort to address the crisis any further than has been done already here in the u. S. Senate. For those that are following this, and this is in the very early stages of negotiation so im a little he hsitant to get into much into the gamesmanship. It does sound as if Mitch Mcconnell is not as enamored with the payroll tax cut idea. Hell say our red line is on liability. He doesnt talk about the payroll tax cut. The president had a dead on arrival idea he wants and so does Mitch Mcconnell but theyre not the same idea. How does this work . Reporter it will be interesting to see. Our team talked to a bunch of republican senators and we asked about the payroll tax cut idea. None of them are to go to the mat in the same way that the president has been. Some said its an interesting ide

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