Dignity and the respect that we afford all people. We honor him today because when he took his last breath, the rest of us will now be able to breathe. We are not fighting some disconnected incidence. We are fighting an institutional systemic problem. Someone said make America Great again but when has america ever been great . His life mattered. All our lives matter. Black lives matter. His death will not be in vain. He is going to change the world. That was the scene this afternoon in houston. At George Floyds funeral. You are now look iing at live pictures of the procession to the cemetery will floyd will be laid to rest beside his mother. It was a very emotional service. As youd expect for so many people around the country, this service was about a lot more than just the life and death of one man, george floyd. It was about whole heck of a lot weve all been experiencing. Especially the africanamerican community. As this procession is underway, the movement sparked by floyds death continues to get people in the streets. Its also ignited a nationwide debate on Police Reform. Democrats released legislation yesterday to overhaul policing in this country and now republicans are working on legislation of their own. Senator scott is hoping to release legislation this week. But getting this Republican Party to release something may not be easy. First, while the country agrees about what the problem is, right now, republicans do not. Theyre the divided party in this one. Look at this new poll from the washington post. Overwhelmingly agrees by a huge margin is floyds death is a larger sign of policing. Thats driven by democrats. Look at those party splits. Also driven by big margins among independents. But republicans, theyre divided on this question. If anything, a small majority says floyds death is not a sign of broader policing problems. Theres problem one. Second complication further making this harder for republican efforts sfor Police Reform is the president. Hes made it clear he will stand staunchly with police and today, he tweeted a Conspiracy Theory which appears to be from an anonymous blog from a sputnik reporter. Basically suggests that people may have been justified in shoving and violently injurying a 75yearold buffalo protester because he was by antifa. There is no evidence to support that. And two officers have been charged with assault in that incident, which was captured on camera. A number of republicans refused to answer questions about that tweet. When they walked past reporters today. As politico put it, the president s tweet involved the Conspiracy Theory that people find so baseless and in poor taste. But the partys top lawmakers are weet trieting it like its the physical manifestation of the coronavirus itself. In other words, stay away. Do you think thats an appropriate move of the president at this moment . I just saw tweet. Senator cornyn, can you stop at the mike for a second . What do you make of the president s tweet this morning and does the president need to be more cautious about what he tweets . Majority leader mcconnell, do you have any response to the president s tweet this morning . Does he need to be more careful about what he tweets . I didnt it. So id have to, i mean you know, you know, im sure my office would be able to give me a copy but i didnt see it. So no real response to it but i dont think it should be surprising in general because he tweets a lot. Yeah, i saw the tweet. It was a shocking thing to say and i wont dignify it with any further comment. Just saw that this second. Just makes no sense that we are get i getting the blames not at this time. This is not good. About the president s tweet this morning on the buffalo protester. Have you seen the president s tweet this morning about the buffalo protester . Joining me now is kara lee, casey hunt is also with us and Steve Patterson in houston where we are following the procession to the burial of george floyd. Id like to start with you, steve. Tell us about what you saw today and what youre seeing now. Well the best thing i can do is just step off and show you. Look at this. Weve been here since the morning. This has grown now i believe into the hundreds. It was started with just a handful of people here. Very early in the morning. Just to be in a good spot to see the procession of george floyd. Some of these people again have been here since the very early morning. And it is hot out here. I got to tell you. Its been like 96 degrees. Houston hot. Factor in the humidity, about 106. Some of these people are very old to the very young. All dedicated. All want to be a part of this moment in history. It appears now just a few minutes ago that this street has shut down to look like some of the people are are moving into the treat. The anticipation is growing. Just talking to protestors again. Even for a glimpse, they have waited for hours for this moment. You see them moving into the street. Look at this. Just now, weve seen them kind of hide behind these barricades. Theyre awaiting what will be a horse drawn carriage as george floyd gets closer. The last stretch will be by horse. Police now pushing some of the line back. People just want a good perspective of when this rolls through. Theyve been waiting for this for so long. They feel like this is an inflection point. That this day is a ko ales ens of 15 days of protesting and rallying and fighting and then were hearing the booming words of reverend al. They were hearing ben crump. They were hearing that out here and waiting for the moment when they get their turn to get a glimpse and youre looking at it now. Looks like its about to happen any minute. Chuck. It is. Ill let you step away. Well probably come back when they make the final stretch there by carriage to his final resting place. Let me go to the white house and carol lee. Thank you steve with that. And carol, i wanted to start there because that was the backdrop today. This has been the backdrop today in general. Weve had two things happen today. Big picture wise. The country is remembering and burying george floyd and at the same time, you see a lot of the people on capitol hill putting out Police Reform proposals. It seems a good faith nature on both sides of the aisle and its in that environment, not going to put up the full screen because it appears to be b a Conspiracy Theory by somebody who worked for the once reported news for the kremlin. Thats right, chuck, and the white house has not officially commented on the tweet despite us asking them since he, the president tweeted it this morning. Our producer on capitol hill caught up with white house chief of staff however and asked him about the tweet and he said he learned a long time ago not to comment on the president s tweets. So that gives you a sense of how eager the white house officials are to say anything about the president s tweet and notably, mark was with jared kushner, the president s soninlaw and senior adviser, and he said nothing when julie was asking about the president s tweets. We do know he went the white house officials today that president s aides advised him to just the quieter the better today out of respect for George Floyds family and the Funeral Services but clearly as you note, the president decided that was not the advice he felt like taking. Mark meadows was on capitol hill for another reason. It is interesting despite the president s tweet, he wants to make it clear that the white house wants in on Police Reform, too. Yes, and we have new reporting today about the white house looking to put forward its own proposals as early as thursday. The president is looking at various ideas, says aides tell us that he has been meeting with policy advisers, meeting with stake holders, mark meadows said after meeting with senator tim scott whos coming up with him and other senators who are coming up with their own proposals, that that was a good meeting but the white house was going to let stake holders take the lead on what those proposals might be and some of the things were told the president s aides and president s considering are things like you know potentially ban on choke holds. Although thats still controversial. This database for Police Officers who have been accused of using Excessive Force multiple times. Things like that. The real question as you know is whether or not theres any ground on which the republicans in congress, the president and democrats in congress can agree on. And what right, we know there are some things, the question is, will it be enough for either side to hold hands and jump in on this. Casey, you know theres a couple of way to look at this moment were in. On one hand, it looks like theres bipartisan certainly desire. Theres desire among a big group of republicans wanting to be involved in Police Reform. The question is, are there enough votes on that side to do something meaningful that democrats would go, would go along with . Thats the Million Dollar question, chuck, and im not sure we have the answer to that yet partly because some of the Big Questions in the republican bill are still being answered, especially this question of whether it will be easier to prosecute Police Officers who are involved in these kind of incidents. Its referred to as qualified immunity and the president says hes got a red line against thatment republicans are still debating it. Democrats want to do it. I think where republicans land on that could tell us a lot about what happens next. But i want to underscore how dramatic the shift among republicans on capitol hill has been on this over the course of the last week. They have essentially you know were working to find out exactly what kind of polling numbers theyre looking at but theyre obviously seeing whats happening across the country and have switched dramatically from the law and order you know decrying the violence in this streets message that you know has been with the Republican Party for decades. To suddenly, you know talking about how black americans clearly have a different experience than others and that that needs to be recognized. The leader mcconnell talked about that today. Tom cotton got up in lunch and said that clearly black americans have a different experience and quote, we need to be sensitive to that reality. This is somebody who was just add war with the New York Times times to send in the troops to quell the violence. Here we are just a few days past that and the conversation is different. Suddenly, its become untenable r for republicans to be seen as not doing anything, not caring about this issue and i think that really says a lot. How similar is this atmosphere post parkland and im curious is that instrtruktive i any of this . Its hard to compare that in some ways i think because and i actually would go back to new town when you had some bipa bipartisan push to try and change things around gun reform. This one is not necessarily an issue that cuts the same way with the Republican Base necessarily and i also think that gun control or gun reform, however you want to frame it, is such an issue that people are so incredibly emotional about it. The politics of that are pretty calcified. And who knows. We could have another moment where theres a shift like this, but this one in some ways, its almost the way gay marriage changed so quickly. All of a sudden, there was this ground swell and it really changed the cultural politics of the moment and thats what this reminds me of a little bit. All right. Well i think the proof will be in the pudding in the next three to four months. So well find out. Well see. How serious all this is. Carol, casey and steve, thank you all. Were still keeping an eye on the procession there, but joining me now is a leader on the democratic side of aisle. Jim clyburn. Good to have you on. Let me start with what youre hearing from the other side of the aisle. How optimistic are you that you could be working with senator tim scott from your home state there . Do you think you and he and a Certain Group of Senate Republicans could work out something . Well chuck, thank you so much for having me. I really hope so. This is bipartisan stuff here. This is not and should not get hung up on partisan politics. I think all of us can see what we saw. And we know full well theres something lacking in our Law Enforcement position situation here. We know it. Theres something lacking in our Health Care Delivery system. Something lacking in our educational when ive called for restructuring things, it was marred two weeks ago. I dont think Mitch Mcconnell would go to the floor now and mark my words on that. So hopefully the climate will be better for us to get some things done in the bipartisan way. Ive never had problems doing that. I work ed with paul ryan when h was speaker of the house to get things done and i always say i dont mind taking three to five steps. One of the things that supposedly is a nonstarter for the white house and im curious where you are on this, is this idea of getting rid of the qualified immunity thing. Supposedly a nonstarter for the president. Is that a nonstarter for you . If its not included in Police Reform bill . I dont like to call anything a nonstarter. If Everything Else were done and that wasnt about then i would go home with Everything Else. I think though that all of us ought to know that we ought to look at this objectively. I grew up in a parsonage. My father was president of his presbyterian. I watched him defrock a minister. We have bad ministers. We have bad elected officials. And you have bad Police Officers. Lets just recognize no matter what your location or your profession, there are some people in it who ought not be in it and we ought to have a way of getting rid of those in policing who should not be in it. I want to ask you something you warned your colleagues yesterday. You said quote, dont let yourselves get drawn into this debate about Defunding Police forces. What did you mean by it xablgtly and i take it that isnt the phrase you want to use. What is the phrase youd be using . Reform police ng this country. We need to reform policing. The fact of the matter is people who keep talking about camden, new jersey. Camden, new jersey, was u about defunding a department of the police. Theyre still funded policing. They brought the comment in to do the policing. They contracted out to some private people to police. No one defunded policing. They defunded a rotten department. And thats as it should be. Look, youve seen, you have seen the Civil Rights Movement through many iterations. Does this moment feel different to you and im just curious, youve lived through what youve lived through and you see what where we are today. What are your feelings watching all of this right now . It does feel different. No question about that. The one thing i miss right now that is not being able to sit down on the floor and reminisce with jon lewis as i do so often. We used to talk whole lot about how the student nonviolating coordinating committee, how they got hijacked and we would be talking now about what we need to do to make sure that this doesnt get hijacked and so thats when im talking about when you hear me say we ought not be buying into this defund the police. Defund the department, if its no good. But policing, we need. You know, i, i have a Great Respect for the Columbia Police department. I know the chief well. I have the same respect for charleston and North Charleston. Orangeburg. Theyve got good Police Departments and they work with their communities. Look at what happened walter scott got shot in the back. That republican mayor of North Charleston joined with the local people. He fired the policeman. They tried him, convicted him and sent him to jail for 20 years. Nobody threw a brick. Nobody burned down a building. Thats what policing is all about when its good policing. So thats why i think that we ought not ever throw out the baby with the bath water. Congressman jim clyburn, number three in the house. Democratic from south carolina. Always good to have you and get your perspective. Thank you, sir. Preeappreciate it. Thanks for having me. Joining me now is new york republican congressman tom reid. Let me start by asking where are you on Police Reform and what would be your top three priorities on a Police Reform bill that you could support . Well, chuck, as i watched the procession of george floyd and listened to the words of jim clyburn, my colleague, i do agree. This is a different moment. And the its time to that he stop proposing democratic bills, republican bills. About time for america to sponsor an american congressional bill. And in those priorities, we can go after the issue of police brutality. We can move forward to a more Perfect Union in regards to things like going after the bad actors in Law Enforcement. Making sure that were not talking about as jim clyburn just recognized, we should not be defunding the police. E we should be using that appropriate ly to reward good practices, best practices of Community Policing. Involving the community into the policing operations and i also think theres an opportunity for us to do more on Community Policing side even more so. School resource officers. To make sure we send the message that were in this together and that theres going to be accountability for bad actors. It seems like the bi