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MSNBCW NewsNation September 29, 2014

We have capacity no one else has. Our military is the best in the history of the world. And when trouble comes up anywhere in the world, they dont call beijing, they dont call moscow, they call us. So now after not seeing it come, the u. S. Is leading an International Coalition against isis and likely will be for year years. Richard, thank you very much. Were getting new reaction to the president s comments about misjudging isis and some push back to that reaction from the state department. Well, i happen to know that in baghdad the request was made from our embassy for strikes early on against isis as they were coming to the border. And this wasnt unknown by the administration. The fact is that the president dropped the ball. He dropped it two years ago in syria. He dropped it over the last 14 months with isis and trying to blame everyone but himself. Weve been aware of isil just like khorasan. But the strength they built has grown over the past six to eight months. Weve taken action over that time as well. John boehner doubts that president obama will be able to keep his pledge of no american boots on the ground against isis. Take a listen. The end of the day, i think its going to take more than air strikes. To scare drive them out of there. At some point, somebodys boots have to be on the ground. If no one will step up, we recommend american boots on the ground . We have no choice. They intend kill us. If we dont destroy them first, well pay the price. Overwhelming majority of americans seem to agree with boehner. A new poll nearly three quarters of americans think well actually send in our troops. The poll also found 45 support sending in u. S. Troops to fight isis. Joining me live now daily beast columnist michael. So much to talk about. Were glad youre on. I want some of your perspective here. Lets talk about the interview the president did with 60 minutes and the over under estimating isis here and the iraqi forces. Yeah, thank you, tamron. Its interesting to hear these things coming out of a president s mouth. But on the other hand, its not like we didnt know this. Right. I forget what mosul was, but whenever mosul happened and isis stormed in there and the iraqi army turned and ran, most americans who Pay Attention to news anyway have known it since then. Experts who toll the region have noted since long before that. Its not the first intelligence failure in the history of the United States, sad to say. Its probably one of the more dramatic ones. Petter king makes the point the president drops the ball. He said he dropped the ball two years ago. We know the debate ha has gone on whether or not to arm the Free Syrian Army rebels. And now here we are at this point. He said not just a failure of regarding mosul, to your point weve been watching and richard has done incredible reporting on isis and the development of the or it organization. Were going back to the debate of whether to arm the army. I sort of agree with peter king. I would have favored personally the president doing something to arm the Syrian Rebels long before he did. But here is the question that peter king sidesteps. There was no public support in the United States of america for doing that back then. And the president has to pay some attention to public opinion. Peter king said he should lead. You give a speech and change public opinion. Maybe you can but maybe you cant. And when obama was talking about syria in 2013, after assad gassed his people, there was no public support in america. Youll recall there was no public support in england. So it would have been hard to do then. It took those beheadings to galvanize American Public opinion to what the president was. I bet you president king would have reacted similarly. To your point, you look at the polls and we look at trend lines as far as stories of the American People were engaged in. People got engaged after they saw the horrific images and the brutality. Its one thing to hear theres a brutal group moving through and killing people over there, and i think thats how sometimes people process international stories. And then you see the face of an american and other westerners being killed. It changed things dramatically in terms of public opinion, and so you see it now in these poll numbers you just cited, tamron, where most people think that were going to end up having troops Ground Troops in there, and most people dont get supported but a popularity does support it by 35 to 47. Im not sure enthusiastically but people understand the stakes here. They do. I want to play another clip from the president defending the fact while we want to get rid of assad, that the bombings may actually be helping let me play that. I recognize that the contradiction in a contradictory land and circumstances. In terms of immediate threats to the United States, isil, Khorasan Group those folks could kill americans. Its more than assad at this point. What im saying is theyre all connected but theres a more immediate concern that has to be dealt with. And michael, you have written what were doing remains the least bad option available. But you also saw the new remarks from speaker baoehner who he sad he believes there become a point that american boots will be on the ground. Yeah. And mildly surprised to hear him say that. As to assad, you know, tamron, its true that isis and some of the other groups are more direct threats to the United States. Assad is not going kill any american. Hes not going to shoot down any american planes. He knows what would happen to the air Defense System if he tried to do that. It is still an Administration Goal that assad be removed from power. You know, hes responsible for 200,000 deaths. The administration wants him out. It is a really unfortunate paradox in the short term what isis seizes ground its probably going to succeed it to the assad army. Thats the idea of building up the rebel forces and the Free Syrian Army. Thank you. The secret service is facing even more heat this morning amid a new report that the agency grossly mishandled a 2011 incident where a gunman fired several shots outside the white house residence. According to the Washington Post, one of the bullets smashed a second floor window outside the first familys living room and at least seven others struck the upstairs residence. The post said it took agents four days to realize the white house had been hit and only after a house keeper discovered the broken glass. The president and first lady were traveling at the time. Their youngest daughter was home. The secret service is pushing back against a report in a state reading in part. This report comes adds the agency as you all know is facing scrutiny over the umm precedented Security Breach just ten days ago where a fence jumper made it through the white house door. Nbc White House Correspondent chris january jansing joins us live. People heard gunfire and they were told it was construction nearby. As a matter of fact, tamron, they were certain they heard gunshots in fact, they responded and rushed to respond. One of them pulled a handgun, the snipers got at the ready. They were looking through their scopes. There were other things that were happening at the same time. There were officers who were very close about 15 yards away from where the shooting cured when they heard the shots. They got out of their car and smelled gun powdered and saw indications that bullets had been fired. At the same time there was a woman tweeting she was in a cab and the person in front of her, the car in front of her a man inside fired five shots a the white house. We know at it was at least seven. She said it took awhile for police to respond. But then as you pointed out, there was the order to stand down. It was surprising to a lot of people in the secret service and it was only later in an internal investigation where some agents said, well, they were concerned if they pushed back against this decision by their superiors. In fact, of great concern apparently to the first family itself. Not only was sasha home and Michelle Obamas mother, but the first family wasnt informed for awhile. Apparently it lead to some very difficult words certainly between the president and some other white house officials. So, look, police might not never have caught up with the suspect had he not gotten into a car crash. Hes serving a long prison sentence. The information come on the heel of two other incidents recently. One of which you pointed out was which someone scaled the fence with a knife and got through the front door of the white house. It will be tough questioning tomorrow for Julia Pearson, the head of the secret service when she goes before congressional committee, tamron. And getting back to your point regarding the first familys reaction, chris, to the incident and the fact they were not told for several days, according to the post, quote, the first lady was upset when her husband arrived home five days later from australia. The president was fuming. Two former aids said, not only had their aids failed to immediately alert the first family, but the secret service stumbled in its response. Do we know more where there was a delay to alert them given their child there was and the motherinlaw. Obviously the decision had been made by some people higher up in the secret service that this was Something Else. One of the reports was that it might have been actual gunfire between gangs. There are people who scoff at that and say, look, its not an area where theres gang fire. This is a tourist area of washington, d. C. , and, look, every first lady ive ever spoken to when the decision was made to run for president , if you have children an concern is the safety of the children. I talked about it with laura bush and jimmy carter. You bring Young Children into the white house you know its a target. Obviously you can understand the concern. There may not have been anything that the secret service could have done to prevent someone from pulling up, rolling down a window, and firing shots. It is what happened in the aftermath including that information to that was the problem. Thank you so much. Joining me now politico senior correspondent. Thank you for your time here. As chris mentioned, the secret Service Director will testify before a house committee. Lets start from the latest report from the post a. A bullet goes there u the window. The housekeeper has to notice. Youve been to the white house. Ive been there behind the scenes. There are people around all day long examining every inch of security. In is not about piling on the secret service but certainly when you look at the image alone, what answers do they need to provide here . Well, and of course, it wasnt just one bullet. But the bullet youre talking about was one that hit around the truman balcony. The balcony famous at the white house. Which is one of the Favorite Places of the first family. It makes them feel like theyre more at home and relaxed. At any point they could be there. Its hard to see how he would feel that way after the incident. This was a bullet that did some damage to the glass and to a piece of concrete. And was discovered by a house keeper. Not by the secret service. Even though there was some attention to this incident internally at the time. Its one of the things that leads to more questions here. When we now know that the secret service knew there were other bullets that seemed to have been fired or maybe there was some incident there wasnt a full inspection at the white house after wards was a big question that people will be asking the secret Service Director. There are a lot of questions that can be asked about the fence jumper 2014. Some of the behavior. Weve seen in columbia, for example, and netherlands. Going back to the leadership question. Do you believe well see members of Congress Press Julia Pearson more on that . Is this a leadership problem . Is it a staffing problem . A training issue . Were not entirely sure. Julia pearson is relatively new on the job. She came in after the attention of the secret service after the prostitution scandal in colombia. It may not be on her directly. I think the point that chris raised is right. You cant always account for crazy people who may pull up the car and fire bullet at the white house. You can have security measures. You cant account for people in the mania jump the fence. We see some of the response to the latest incident of the guy who got into the front door being extra barriers up around the white house grounds. But we dont know exactly what the longterm response is going to be from the white house and how it works. An extra barrier that was 3feet tall that was tethered together. Many people would not necessarily see that as an extra measure. They may process it as simply trying to smoke and mirror the situation well, its the initial response. Weve been told that the secret service is working on something larger. Theyre balancing the question of how to make that area assessable to tourists and other people that need to get through, and also have the security measures there as they need to be. Thank you so much for your time. Developing now in North Carolina nascar driver tony stewart is making his first Public Comments since cleared of any criminal charges in the death of fellow racer kevin ward, jr. He said he didnt know ward but says he had a promising racing career. Here is what stewart said when asked if he would have done anything different. If you could do anything differently over the past couple of months, what would it be . I would have stayed at wat n watkins glen that night. I do this stuff and i run the cars to have a good time and, you know, thats all i wanted to do that night. Stewart said hes making himself available to kevin wards family if they want to talk. For their part kevin wards family extremely furious about the investigation after it was revealed that kevin ward had marijuana in his system. His family believes essentially he is being blamed for the incide accident. They blasted tony stewart saying kevin ward is not his memory and what happened to him is not being treated fairly here. So while tony stewart said hes willing to talk to the family, theyre angered and outrage continues. They may have choice questions for him regarding what happened to their loved one. Also developing now, the faa announcing new actions in the wake of last weeks intentional fire that is affecting hundred of flights in chicago. That happened friday around this time during our hour. When we started to seat flights cancel and delay. Its still going on right now. What is going on there . Live report is next. Plus a medical mystery. New fears tied to the dangerous respiratory virus. Its affecting hundreds of children now in 40 different states and the district of columbia. It is even causing signs or symptoms of paralysis in some children. Well have the latest. And the university of michigan is defending its head coach very controversial decision. 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Enagage with us. Developing news for you. The faa is ordering major reviews of its operations after a fire at a Regional Control Center caused cancellations and delays at chicago ohare. The worlds busiest airport. Three days after the fire travelers are coping with long delays and more than 300 cancellations. Since friday there have been over 400 cancellations in and out of chicagos airports which include midway impacting fliers all over the country. Were in chicago with the latest on the faas response. I believe, kevin, last report around 70 of the flight the back up and running . Thats still a lot of people stuck there well, things are up and running at about 70 capacity, as you mentioned. You know, 4,000 flights being cancelled over the weekend the sabotage that took place on friday. Thats a lot of people, tamron. When you think about it. 4,000 fights. Lets say you put about 100 people on a flight. Do the math. And really think of the economic body blow that is i think going to be coming out of this. A lot of money has been gone down the drain as a result of what took place and as you mentioned, the faa is scrambling to get things up and running. Theyre having to fly people in to replace the computer hard ba ware and such that was destroyed in the fire on friday. Its just one act from one person has really, really set everything on the ear here in the chicago area as you i guess ma mentioned so many flights come in and out of chicago. Its having a far reaching impact. As a matter of fact there were people on the street who were from frankfurt, germany. Essentially had to rent a car and drive from new york to chicago in hopes of being able to get a flight to go back to germany. Now they managed to get a free weekend in chicago because they cant get back to frankfurt. Im sure there are a lot of stories just like this one going on out here. Absolutely. Thank you very much with the latest information there. Up next following developing news in th

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