North carolina contacted the cdc and the cdc told him to contact texas health department. He spoke with several people there, he says, and we reached out to both agencies but have not heard back a comment from them on this particular situation. But it comes on the heels of news that the patient showed up here on friday and told people that he was from west africa, and that he was complaining of symptoms, but somehow that information did not get passed along to doctors on friday. We now know he was admitted sunday and diagnosed on tuesday. Richard . Charles, we have been talking about School Officials there, have some concern. What are they telling you about what the process is and whats going on . Reporter so this patient has family here in dallas and was staying with them. Those people have five children. They are in five different schools in the Dallas Independent School district. The School District took those kids out of school, told them to stay home for 21 days, they will be monitored, given ipads to continue their studies, and hopefully they can return healthy in 21 days. But a lot of people are concerned about it. And Dallas Independent School district reached out to the community to try to inform them, to put their fears at ease. Heres the district superintendent, mike miles. We think there is not any reason to be alarmed, but just like everybody else, we want to be extra cautious, so we are taking extra steps. Reporter so nbc news was at the school today. A lot of parents were coming in, bringing kids to school, asking a lot of questions, but keeping kids at school. Others are keeping kids home today. Richard . Nbcs Charles Hadlock. Thank you for the latest from dallas. Joining us now, dr. Nancy cast, professor at Bloomberg School of Public Health and better Man Institute of bio ethics at johns hopkins. Doctor, thank you for being with me. Lets talk about chain of transmission. Yesterday Charles Hadlock at this hour was saying 12 to 18. Now the list has grown to 100 people who may have had contact here. Do we need to be concerned when we hear about these patients that the nephew had to call to say the uncle was turned away, the number is growing over the course of 24 hours . Right. Well, youre asking the right questions. It seems that one thing we are fortunate about, particularly in the United States, our Public Health officials have very old longstanding tried and true methods for containing an outbreak. So they have whats called an index patient. Thats this man who has been diagnosed with ebola. No one else is known to have ebola. But what you do is you ask this man, and from reports that i understand, he is cooperating fully, for all of the places he has been and all the people he has had contact with. Something that also seems fortunate in this case is that at least from what i understand, he doesnt seem to have been symptomatic in a way that would have spread the disease. Just in case, we use tried and true methods of Public Health to increasingly go from the patient to all of his contacts to all of their contacts, just to keep an eye to monitor for fever for 21 days, and to make sure that everyone is safe. This is something that youre an expert in, talk about ethics here, bio ethics, medical ethics. What about privacy rules when it comes to ebola and the current case, mentioning it now, looking at a list of 100 possibly. Do people have a right to know who is being treated, the number, full transparency here. Some parents worry now about their kids in school. Absolutely. And it is understandable that people want to ask those questions. It turns out we only have a right to violate privacy if it helps in the response. What is critical is to know where the patient was, and who else was there, and to get to them and monitor them again for fever and other symptoms. You can say to the public things like who was on this flight, who had contact with these kids. You dont have to release the patients name. It turns out now the name is released, but the name doesnt help us to do what we need to do if the patient cooperates. The only times we violate privacy is if the patient doesnt cooperate, tell us where he has been. In those cases we have to say to people well, were you with this person. Ethics always says do the best for both the patient and the public that you can. Generally in situations like this, we can serve needs of the patient and the public. Lets finish with restrictions and costs. Restrictions to and from countries like liberia from west africa, and then associated costs. New york times reporting he is a liberian national, and paying for treatment and other things related to this. Right now it is in our best interest as a country to get this man treated. It seems that whether or not he pays the costs or the American Public pay the costs, it would be far costlier if he werent given the best treatment in the world. One of the things we learn watching this epidemic the last couple months is people that are able to secure high quality treatment get cured. And then they dont spread to anyone else. It is people who dont get high quality treatment, who tragically for them and for everyone around them become wildly symptomatic and are at risk of infecting everyone else. So it seems to me it is in our best interest, if nothing else, to get this man the best treatment he deserves. Doctor nancy kass, professor at Bloomberg School of Public Health, thank you for your perspective. Thanks for having me. Now to the other big story we are following at this hour, the secret service under new leadership this morning, and it is likely more changes are coming following the resignation of the director, Julia Pierson. Joseph clancy, a 30 year veteran of the agency has been named interim director. For the past two years has been head of security at comcast, msnbcs parent company. Before that, he led president obamas security detail, working with every president since bill clinton. Homeland security jake johnson after accepting her resignation yesterday afternoon, she stepped down, amid pressure from lawmakers both sides of the aisle. Following last months unprecedented security breach, tough hearing on capitol hill, and revelation an armed contract tore with criminal history rode an elevator with president obama. A revelation she did not disclose during or prior to the hearing. According to officials that ultimately led to president obama losing faith in her leadership. White house correspondent Kristin Welker joins us with the latest. In an interview with bloomberg news, Julia Pierson said it is in the best interest of secret service and American Public if i step down. She went on to say Congress Lost confidence in my ability to run the agency. The media made it clear that this is what they expected, unquote. Yet as we look at this, kristin, just yesterday, White House Communications director telling you that the president had full confidence in piersons leadership, then white house spokesman josh earnest said the same thing, but said this hours later after she resigned. Lets listen to that. We have seen recent reports raising questions about the performance of the agency, and the president concluded that new leadership of that agency was required. So tell us about the change in a manner of hours, point a to point b here. Reporter well, the breaking point was the revelation that president obama during a recent trip to atlanta as you pointed out rode in an elevator with an armed contractor who had a criminal history. Julia pierson briefed president obama last week about the fence jumper and never mentioned the atlanta incident. She then testified on capitol hill for more than three hours. She was asked specifically by congressman chaffetz if she had briefed the president on all of the Security Breaches this year. She said yes under oath during that testimony. Then a few hours later she apparently left the white house, with the disclosure coming that there was another security breach, and it was reported in papers here. So essentially she was not transparent about that very critical and stunning security breach, and i think for both this white house, for president obama, and for lawmakers on capitol hill who i have been speaking with, that was the breaking point. Of course, it came on the heels of a number of security lapses, and that unprecedented lapse when the fence jumper not only made it into the white house but deep into the white house. And youll recall in that incident, initially secret service said he was apprehended after getting through the front doors. That turned out to not be the case. There were too many instances of lack of transparency and leaks, and a sense she didnt have a grip or confidence of rank and File Secret Service agents she was directing, so she as you heard there in that bloomberg interview acknowledged that she lost faith and that was part of her decision to step down. So key there, kristin, confidence of jay johnson as well as the president as that was related to transparency. As we look at now the interim director, he was in charge of the president s detail during a state dinner breach in which the salahis crashed a state dinner, also he was at comcast for several years. When you look at his background, is he qualified, will he be seen as reformer for the amount of time he will have that job . I have been speaking to a number of people friends and former colleagues, they say he is the right person for this moment, and this is the argument they make. He is a 30 year veteran. He is someone who has been deeply engaged with the president s security, dating all the way back to the clinton administration. So he has a very in depth understanding of how security works at the white house, how it should function, and they believe he is going to be able to come up with ideas for how to reform it. Having said that, he has been away for the past three years, so he does to some extent have a fresh perspective he can bring to the problem, which seems to be deeply entrenched. A few skeptics saying three years isnt long to be away from the agency. Nonetheless, it is more time. He has that ability, that hes had a little distance at least, his supporters would say. They think he is the right person for the job. He certainly has the confidence of president obama. Back to you. And perhaps mixing corporate experience with political experience, that might be the positive. White house correspondent Kristin Welker, thank you. Thanks. I want to bring in chief Political Columnist roger simon. Thanks for joining us. You penned an article put out yesterday, Homeland Security security secretary jay johnson, deputy secretary will lead the investigation we have been talking about into the Security Breaches that have led to piersons resignation, the secret service wont be doing that. To your column that you wrote, you say in the column yesterday that the white house needs more shoes on the ground. An expert in this space told you there has been leakage of the best and most balanced agents from the secret service. We have been left with a force with less experience and poor judgment. To say the agents are way under head count as well, have more work, more stress, more difficulty and all operating under a cloud of scandal. You know, when you lay it out that way, and this expert telling you that, how big of an overhaul needed within this agency now . A pretty big overhaul. Morale at the secret service is just about at rock bottom, but theres two problems here. One, the new director has to reform the agency, restore morale. This is an elite service force, elite Law Enforcement force. They used to be proud of themselves. Now theyre not. But theres a bigger problem, basic problem. Number one, first and foremost, secret service has to protect the life of the president , his family, and everyone else who works or lives in the white house. You cant get away from that. People actually admire without question, no one went around thinking the secret service was screwed up, until we heard about prostitutes in south america and stuff like that. Based on sources in the reporting, how short are they, 10 , 20 , 40 short . You know, theyre short in triple digits in terms of the number of agents. I heard from my source that one of the problems with the guy sprinting across the north lawn and not being stopped was that ten minutes before the president had departed from the south lawn on marine one, and most of the agents were gathered on the south lawn, and had not come back to their post on the north lawn. We have to have enough agents to cover the entire perimeter of the white house. Thats 18 acres. We have to be able to do it. Very quickly, with clancy now in, does it help reform or hurt reform that is needed within the agency . I think it helps reform on the bottom line question of protecting the president. I talked to a senior white house official that worked in the Obama White House in the first term. They all liked clancy. The president liked clancy. The first family liked clancy. And ive got to tell you, from what im hearing, the first lady has been a big force in this. She wants her husband protected, and she has not been happy with the way the secret service has been operating. But clancy has their confidence. Expected to be noninterim long term is what youre saying . We dont know. There are jobs, you have to protect the president. Thank you so much for that. Thank you. Up next, an update on another Health Emergency, we are watching at least four people, including a child suffering from a rare respiratory disease have died. It is enterovirus. I will talk with a doctor monitoring the outbreak across the country. Why the grand jury concerning the Michael Brown shooting is being investigated. One of the stories we are following around news nation. Plus this. You cannot just say oops, im sorry, be happy you got a child and walk away from it. A fertility mix your opinion, a mom is suing a sperm bank after she was accidentally impregnated with sperm from the wrong donor. Why the mistake makes her daughter the center of ridicule now. Join the conversation online. Now to another Health Emergency that we are following now, it is not ebola, but concerns about the virus are growing. Enterovirus is linked to 472 cases nationwide. The respiratory illness mimics the common cold, can turn serious in children. Shortness of breath and possible paralysis. The latest victim is a tenyearold rhode island girl that died after receiving a bacterial infection and enterovirus 68. Health officials arent sure what role the virus played in the death. Joining me, a medical director for Child Advocacy at Case Medical Center in cleveland. Doctor, thank you for being here. The doctors when we look at this, theyre saying the virus has been reported in 42 states, and d. C. As well. What is this virus . Well, it is a virus that was first identified in 1962. So it is not something thats very new, but were seeing it now really effecting people. The kids, and when i say kids, it tends to effect more infants, children, and other people who have asthma, so if you have an underlying respiratory problem, those are the people that are really having a hard time with it. And the problem is that we dont have an antiviral medication for it. Why not . Because we havent developed one. There are not a lot of antivirals for these viruses, ones that cause the common cold. Does this concern the medical community as we see the number of cases i was mentioning, the cdc saying 472 so far . 472 when you talk about right now, when heavily into cold and flu season, these are 472 that they identified as having this virus, there are probably other people with viruses. We are always concerned about people who have asthma, we are always concerned about people with underlying lung infections, and especially children that may have been born premature, and have lung disease already. You know, doctor, if i were a parent, this would be something i would be very concerned about, because as we described, it appears to be a cold, then it takes a turn for the worse. Whats your suggestion for parents . Like everybody, good hand washing, good hand washing, good hand washing. I cannot impression it that much. I dont shake anybodys hand. I only do fist bumps, and Everybody Knows that. You want to wash your hands. You dont want to have contact with people who may be having runny noses, blowing their nose, just stay away from that. With little children, disinfect surfaces often. Do a 20 secondhand wash. Sing happy birthday, yankee doodle, whatever you sing for 20 seconds to be sure you get a good hand washing. Hand washing over hand sanitizers. 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